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eBay Cancels Ancient Coin Auctions
Several German dealers returning to their business from the World Money Fair
in Berlin were surprised to find that while they were away at the show, eBay had cancelled their ancient coin listings because of policies regarding selling archaeological objects on eBay. One major dealer found that listings for about 200 ancient coins had been deleted, including some which had just been acquired from the NYINC sales and old collections. This very well established dealer made the following angry comment: "There is no law in Germany prohibiting selling or collecting ancient coins, however a few police and hardline archaeologists are taking the law in their own hands and are obviously threatening the ignorant staff of eBay with false accusations. Goodbye eBay, because they do not protect their clients from false accusations and give their addresses to the police, including those of collectors all over the world. So far in Germany hundreds of houses have been searched, many collections have been confiscated and their rightful owners have been accused of "Hehlerei" (fencing). The Fourth Reich has arrived and we have to defend the free market in Germany against these self-proclaimed "Führers". I am very upset and very sad, because I moved to a then liberal Germany more than ... years ago. This reminds of the predicament of our colleagues in 1933." ************************************************** ********* TRANSLATION of eBay's message announcing these cancellations: ************************************************** ********* eBAY sent this communication to [name of eBay seller]. Your first name and surname in this communication are a proof that the message came from eBAY. More to the subject ..... eBAY listing was removed: Archeological findings (XXXXXXXXX) Good day [name of eBay seller] We cancelled the following auction and/or want ad listed on eBAY: [list of removed auctions] Your auction and/or your want ad violates eBAY policy regarding archeological findings and was therefore concluded. In accordance with our general business conditions, auctions or want ads which violate legal directives or eBAY policies may not be transacted on eBAY. Your eBAY fees for this article were credited to your member discount. All bidders for this article were informed of the cancellation. It is forbidden to offer archeological findings whose lawful acquisition and possession the supplier cannot prove on eBAY. Especially the following articles may not be offered: - antique coins, weapons, ceramics, jewelry or tools - sacral objects - fossils and minerals Reference: According to the different landesrechtlichen regulations, the Finder of archeological findings is obligated to report this to the responsible historical preservation authority or Hanseatic league depending on the circumstances. In most states, findings pass over automatically into the property of the respective state. The offering or the acquisition of archeological findings can therefore criminal penalties and other legal consequences. You find further information about this policy under: http://pages.ebay.de/help/policies/artifacts.html .... Important notice: Repeated submission of this or a similar article as well as further offences against eBAY policies or valid right can incur loss of the right to trade on eBAY as a consequence. On the following links, you can inform yourself about eBAY policies concerning inadmissible articles as well as our general business conditions: http://pages.ebay.de/help/sell/quest...ted-items.html http://pages.ebay.de/help/policies/user-agreement.html Thank you very much for your understanding. With kind regards eBAY security team To send a message follow the link below. For Germany: http://pages.ebay.de/aboutebay/contact.html ************************************ ----- The Original German text ----- ************************************ eBay hat diese Mitteilung an [name of eBay seller] gesendet. Ihr Vor- und Nachname in dieser Mitteilung sind ein Hinweis darauf, dass die Nachricht tatsächlich von eBay stammt. Mehr zum Thema. ... Guten Tag [name of eBay seller], Sie haben bei eBay folgendes Angebot bzw. folgende Suchanzeige eingestellt: [list of auctions removed] Ihr Angebot bzw. Ihre Suchanzeige verletzt jedoch den eBay-Grundsatz Archaeologische Funde und wurde deshalb beendet. Gemäß unseren Allgemeinen Geschäftsbedingungen dürfen Angebote bzw Suchanzeigen, welche gegen rechtliche Vorschriften oder die eBay-Grundsätze verstoßen, nicht auf eBay eingestellt werden. Ihre eBay-Gebühren für diesen Artikel wurden Ihrem Mitgliedskonto gutgeschrieben. Alle Bieter für diesen Artikel wurden von der Löschung informiert. Es ist verboten, archäologische Funde auf eBay anzubieten, deren rechtmäßigen Erwerb und Besitz der Anbieter nicht nachweisen kann. Insbesondere dürfen folgende Artikel nicht angeboten werden: - antike Münzen, Waffen, Keramiken, Schmuck oder Werkzeuge - sakrale Gegenstände - Fossilien und Mineralien Hinweis: Nach den verschiedenen landesrechtlichen Regelungen ist der Finder archäologischer Funde verpflichtet, diese der zuständigen Denkmalschutzbehörde zu melden und unter Umständen auszuhändigen. In den meisten Bundesländern gehen Funde automatisch in das Eigentum des jeweiligen Landes über. Das Anbieten oder der Erwerb von archäologischen Funden kann daher straf- und ordnungsrechtliche Konsequenzen nach sich ziehen. Weitere Informationen zu diesem Grundsatz finden Sie unter: http://pages.ebay.de/help/policies/artifacts.html .... Auf den folgenden Hilfeseiten können Sie sich über die eBay-Grundsätze zu unzulässigen Artikeln sowie über die Allgemeinen Geschäftsbedingungen informieren: http://pages.ebay.de/help/sell/quest...ted-items.html http://pages.ebay.de/help/policies/user-agreement.html Vielen Dank für Ihr Verständnis. Mit freundlichen Grüßen eBay-Sicherheitsteam Zum Impressum gelangen Sie über den folgenden Link. Für Deutschland: http://pages.ebay.de/aboutebay/contact.html .... Posted to the list by: Dave Welsh Unidroit-L Listowner http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Unidroit-L |
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eBay Cancels Ancient Coin Auctions
Obviously the German Govt. got after Ebay about this, I suspect it
will not be long before all ancient coin auctions are cancelled on Ebay since how could you prevent someone in Germany from buying from a non German dealer even if it was stated in the auction that sales to Germany were not allowed? I don't see any way this could be prevented. |
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eBay Cancels Ancient Coin Auctions
"stonej" wrote in message ... Obviously the German Govt. got after Ebay about this, I suspect it will not be long before all ancient coin auctions are cancelled on Ebay since how could you prevent someone in Germany from buying from a non German dealer even if it was stated in the auction that sales to Germany were not allowed? I don't see any way this could be prevented. So if the Chinese censors object to listings of coins with the word LIBERTY on them... Chinese censors: "You must revise your counter-revolutionary posting rules. Jump to it with all due haste!" eBay lackeys: "How high, honorable sirs?" Oops... that would put a big crimp in the sale of domestically produced counterfeits. Never mind. |
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