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Old February 27th 05, 04:31 PM
my-wings
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Default Harcout, Brace Javanovich 1st?

I picked up a confusing book over the weekend: *Autobiography of Values* by
Charles A. Lindbergh

The copyright page states:

Copyright 1976, 1977, 1978 by Harcourt Brace Jovanovich, Inc.
and Anne Morrow Lindbergh
Copyright 1977 by William Jovanovich

The Library of congress info (which I don't really know how to interpret)
is:
TL540.L5A27 1978 629.13'092'4[b] 77-7873

It is a stated first edition with a centered numberline of BCDE (no "A").
According to McBride's, "letters do not usually apply if they begin with A
or B; disregard them; see *Typography* statement." The *Typography*
statement instructs you to try to determine if the presence of an additional
letter or number would disrupt the placement of the numerline. It's kind of
difficult to tell, but the BCDE seems truly centered under the centered
First Edition statement, and I think an "A" would throw it off.

It doesn't look like a 1st of this title is particularly valuable, but I
would like to be able to describe it correctly. Can anyone confirm whether
or not I've got a true first?

Thanks.
Alice

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Old February 28th 05, 03:21 AM
Donald Shaw
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My first inclination would be to say you have a 1st edition, 2nd
printing...to validate my position, please visit these two links...

A. http://odyssey.biblio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=232

B. http://www.abbookman.com/ABBookman1sts.html

Don

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"my-wings" wrote in message
...
I picked up a confusing book over the weekend: *Autobiography of Values*

by
Charles A. Lindbergh

The copyright page states:

Copyright 1976, 1977, 1978 by Harcourt Brace Jovanovich, Inc.
and Anne Morrow Lindbergh
Copyright 1977 by William Jovanovich

The Library of congress info (which I don't really know how to interpret)
is:
TL540.L5A27 1978 629.13'092'4[b] 77-7873

It is a stated first edition with a centered numberline of BCDE (no "A").
According to McBride's, "letters do not usually apply if they begin with A
or B; disregard them; see *Typography* statement." The *Typography*
statement instructs you to try to determine if the presence of an

additional
letter or number would disrupt the placement of the numerline. It's kind

of
difficult to tell, but the BCDE seems truly centered under the centered
First Edition statement, and I think an "A" would throw it off.

It doesn't look like a 1st of this title is particularly valuable, but I
would like to be able to describe it correctly. Can anyone confirm whether
or not I've got a true first?

Thanks.
Alice

--
Book collecting terms illustrated. Occasional books for sale.
http://www.mywingsbooks.com/




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Old February 28th 05, 03:51 AM
my-wings
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Thanks for taking the time to research and write. I did take a look at
ABBookamn before I posted, but I found it less detailed and specific than
McBride's, which specifically mentions that letter lines beginning with A or
B should be disregarded. I'm actually pretty sure that the letter line is
centered and would be thrown off by the addition of an "A" in front, but if
no one can verify that this book is or isn't actually a first, I'll be
conservative in my description. Darn.

Alice




"Donald Shaw" wrote in message
news:i6wUd.18668$yr.3072@okepread05...
My first inclination would be to say you have a 1st edition, 2nd
printing...to validate my position, please visit these two links...

A. http://odyssey.biblio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=232

B. http://www.abbookman.com/ABBookman1sts.html

Don

book-attic at yahoo.com


"my-wings" wrote in message
...
I picked up a confusing book over the weekend: *Autobiography of Values*

by
Charles A. Lindbergh

The copyright page states:

Copyright 1976, 1977, 1978 by Harcourt Brace Jovanovich, Inc.
and Anne Morrow Lindbergh
Copyright 1977 by William Jovanovich

The Library of congress info (which I don't really know how to interpret)
is:
TL540.L5A27 1978 629.13'092'4[b] 77-7873

It is a stated first edition with a centered numberline of BCDE (no "A").
According to McBride's, "letters do not usually apply if they begin with
A
or B; disregard them; see *Typography* statement." The *Typography*
statement instructs you to try to determine if the presence of an

additional
letter or number would disrupt the placement of the numerline. It's kind

of
difficult to tell, but the BCDE seems truly centered under the centered
First Edition statement, and I think an "A" would throw it off.

It doesn't look like a 1st of this title is particularly valuable, but I
would like to be able to describe it correctly. Can anyone confirm
whether
or not I've got a true first?

Thanks.
Alice

--
Book collecting terms illustrated. Occasional books for sale.
http://www.mywingsbooks.com/






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Old February 28th 05, 05:00 PM
Jon Meyers
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"my-wings" wrote...
I picked up a confusing book over the weekend: *Autobiography of Values*

by
Charles A. Lindbergh

The copyright page states:

Copyright 1976, 1977, 1978 by Harcourt Brace Jovanovich, Inc.
and Anne Morrow Lindbergh
Copyright 1977 by William Jovanovich

The Library of congress info (which I don't really know how to interpret)
is:
TL540.L5A27 1978 629.13'092'4[b] 77-7873

It is a stated first edition with a centered numberline of BCDE (no "A").
According to McBride's, "letters do not usually apply if they begin with A
or B; disregard them; see *Typography* statement." The *Typography*
statement instructs you to try to determine if the presence of an

additional
letter or number would disrupt the placement of the numerline. It's kind

of
difficult to tell, but the BCDE seems truly centered under the centered
First Edition statement, and I think an "A" would throw it off.

It doesn't look like a 1st of this title is particularly valuable, but I
would like to be able to describe it correctly. Can anyone confirm whether
or not I've got a true first?


For a book published in 1977, this is probably a first printing. For
instance, the FP of William Goldman's The Princess Bride, published by HBJ
in 1973, shows a First Edition slug and a B letter line. HBJ didn't use A
letter lines with any regularity until the late '80s/early '90s.

Also, you unfortunately can't always go by how the type has been set. For
another instance, the correct FP of Jonathan Lethem's Gun, With Occasional
Music, pubbed by HBJ in 1994, has an A line, centered below the FE slug; in
the second printing, the line starts with B but has been recentered.


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Old February 28th 05, 07:03 PM
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Jon Meyers wrote:


For a book published in 1977, this is probably a first printing. For
instance, the FP of William Goldman's The Princess Bride, published

by HBJ
in 1973, shows a First Edition slug and a B letter line. HBJ didn't

use A
letter lines with any regularity until the late '80s/early '90s.


Really? So that second printing I found at Powell's for $15 is
actually a first? Nice.

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Old February 28th 05, 10:57 PM
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"my-wings" wrote in message
...
I picked up a confusing book over the weekend: *Autobiography of Values* by
Charles A. Lindbergh

The copyright page states: snip



In addition to what Jon Meyers said, I have a copy of Gerald Petievich's
Money Men/One-Shot Deal published by HBJ in 1981. It has the "First
Edition" slug and lined up directly underneath, the B C D E. I remember
doing a fair amount of research on this book and finally determining/being
told it was a first.

Dick Stephens


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Old March 1st 05, 04:21 AM
my-wings
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Thanks so much for the additional info. I was pretty sure it was a first,
but that was based mostly on the centeredness of the letter line. Nice to
know the publisher was doing the Random House thing for the time period of
this book!

Alice


"Jon Meyers" wrote in message
...
"my-wings" wrote...
I picked up a confusing book over the weekend: *Autobiography of Values*

by
Charles A. Lindbergh

The copyright page states:

Copyright 1976, 1977, 1978 by Harcourt Brace Jovanovich, Inc.
and Anne Morrow Lindbergh
Copyright 1977 by William Jovanovich

The Library of congress info (which I don't really know how to interpret)
is:
TL540.L5A27 1978 629.13'092'4[b] 77-7873

It is a stated first edition with a centered numberline of BCDE (no "A").
According to McBride's, "letters do not usually apply if they begin with
A
or B; disregard them; see *Typography* statement." The *Typography*
statement instructs you to try to determine if the presence of an

additional
letter or number would disrupt the placement of the numerline. It's kind

of
difficult to tell, but the BCDE seems truly centered under the centered
First Edition statement, and I think an "A" would throw it off.

It doesn't look like a 1st of this title is particularly valuable, but I
would like to be able to describe it correctly. Can anyone confirm
whether
or not I've got a true first?


For a book published in 1977, this is probably a first printing. For
instance, the FP of William Goldman's The Princess Bride, published by HBJ
in 1973, shows a First Edition slug and a B letter line. HBJ didn't use A
letter lines with any regularity until the late '80s/early '90s.

Also, you unfortunately can't always go by how the type has been set. For
another instance, the correct FP of Jonathan Lethem's Gun, With Occasional
Music, pubbed by HBJ in 1994, has an A line, centered below the FE slug;
in
the second printing, the line starts with B but has been recentered.


--
Jon Meyers
(To reply, lose
your way)




 




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