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Seeburg 100bl - centering record to the rack in play



 
 
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Old April 25th 04, 01:44 AM
Brent
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Default Seeburg 100bl - centering record to the rack in play

Hello - any help with this matter would be appreciated as I am at my
wits end.
I need to move the position of the record as it is too close to one
side of the rack with in the play position. I have read the manual and
having some problems. I have the tranfer arm centered to rack, but
when record clamped in play it is too close to one side. The Rack and
the selector coil bank are fully to the side I wish to go. Is there
another adjustment other than the contact block?
Thanks Brent
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Old April 25th 04, 02:06 AM
Joseph A. Tony Dziedzic
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The carriage is driven by a gear that engages the flat gear rack on the top of
the mechanism base. There are two teeth in the flat gear for each slot in the
record magazine; if the carriage (or clutch assembly) was removed it's
possible the timing is off by one tooth. However, this usually results in a
condition where the transfer arm hits the divider between two record slots.

If the transfer arm were bent, and the carriage out of position by one tooth,
it's possible you could run into this problem. It seems unlikely, though.

Have you checked that the turntable is fully secured by its mounting screws?
Which side of the record magazine separator is rubbing against the record?

The contact block position does not affect where the carriage stops when it
swtiches into transfer mode; that's a function of the carriage gear and base
gear timing.

Joseph "Tony" Dziedzic

In article ,
(Brent) wrote:
Hello - any help with this matter would be appreciated as I am at my
wits end.
I need to move the position of the record as it is too close to one
side of the rack with in the play position. I have read the manual and
having some problems. I have the tranfer arm centered to rack, but
when record clamped in play it is too close to one side. The Rack and
the selector coil bank are fully to the side I wish to go. Is there
another adjustment other than the contact block?
Thanks Brent

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Old April 25th 04, 01:59 PM
Brent
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Thanks for your suggestions Tony - The record is ever so close to the
turntable side of the rack. I just want a little more clearance. I
don't know why this cannot be easily done when you move either the
selector coil rack or the contact arm casting. You would think that
moving either of this 2 items would give a different position to that
of the rack, I just want a 1/16 of an inch more and this is not
happening after making different adjustments.

Thanks Brent
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Old April 25th 04, 05:02 PM
Ken G.
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You need to loosten the whole record rack & slide it over a bit . Have a
record clamped & the machine off when doing this .
Did you do a clutch alignment ? It thats off their will be side play in
the meck in play mode .
Get a record playing unplug it then grab the whole meck / turntanle unit
near the bottom and push it left to right & see if it shifts around ..
if so it needs aligned .

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Old April 25th 04, 06:56 PM
Joseph A. Tony Dziedzic
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The carriage "detents" into position in front of an open slot in the record
magazine based on the timing of the gears on the clutch on the rear of the
carriage and the gear on the base of the mechanism. Nothing you do to the
transfer arm, contact block, or selector pin assembly position will affect
where the carriage detents; that's all based on the timing of the gear and the
gear rack.

It is possible the clutch adjustment that takes out the side-to-side play of
the carriage once the carriage is detented could be a little too loose; that
would allow the carriage to have too much side-to-side play, which can result
in the record being too close to a record magazine separator. Check the
clutch 2, 3, and 4 adjustments in the manual (I forget which one is specific
to taking out the side-to-side play).

I believe you stated in your first post that you've already loosened the 4
socket-head cap screws that mount the record magazine to the base and adjusted
the position of the record magazine. Have a record from the middle of the
magazine (F1) clamped on the turntable when you do this adjustment. (If I
mis-read your post and you HAVEN'T done the record position adjustment then
that's the first thing you need to do.)

Tony

In article ,
(Brent) wrote:
Thanks for your suggestions Tony - The record is ever so close to the
turntable side of the rack. I just want a little more clearance. I
don't know why this cannot be easily done when you move either the
selector coil rack or the contact arm casting. You would think that
moving either of this 2 items would give a different position to that
of the rack, I just want a 1/16 of an inch more and this is not
happening after making different adjustments.

Thanks Brent

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Old April 25th 04, 07:14 PM
Bob E.
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Joseph A. Tony Dziedzic wrote:

I believe you stated in your first post that you've already loosened the 4
socket-head cap screws that mount the record magazine to the base and adjusted
the position of the record magazine. Have a record from the middle of the
magazine (F1) clamped on the turntable when you do this adjustment.


....and take the time to look through a large sample of your records
to find a truly flat one to do this adjustment. Once you start
looking, you will be amazed at how few are actually extremely flat!

--Bob

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