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Old September 16th 03, 02:03 AM
Stardancer
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Default Is this counterfeit?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=3046939144
&category=41085

Looks like it to me.

Regards

Dan


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Old September 16th 03, 02:14 AM
Barry K
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1. Uncertified rare date coin
2. Lousy pictures

That's all you need to know. Don't even think about it.
Barry

On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 01:03:56 GMT, "Stardancer"
wrote:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=3046939144
&category=41085

Looks like it to me.

Regards

Dan



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Old September 16th 03, 02:54 AM
Mineralogy
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If the seller would send a reasonable picture, rather than the crappy one he
used, you might be able to tell. But as is I wouldn't have even bid the
minimum $0.01.




"Stardancer" wrote in message
ink.net...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=3046939144
&category=41085

Looks like it to me.

Regards

Dan




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Old September 16th 03, 03:12 AM
Jeff Landon
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Well, he has 67 negs, and his description sounds like a carnival side-show.

I wouldn't touch it with a 10-foot pole.

--Jeff


"Stardancer" wrote in message
ink.net...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=3046939144
&category=41085

Looks like it to me.

Regards

Dan




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Old September 16th 03, 03:18 AM
Fred
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For what its worth, The N in ONE looks like it was chisled off rather than
just being weak.

Fred
"maybe someone wanted to help it along?"


"Mineralogy" wrote in message
s.com...
If the seller would send a reasonable picture, rather than the crappy one

he
used, you might be able to tell. But as is I wouldn't have even bid the
minimum $0.01.




"Stardancer" wrote in message
ink.net...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=3046939144
&category=41085

Looks like it to me.

Regards

Dan






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Old September 16th 03, 04:16 PM
Ira Stein
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Dan asks if this coin is counterfeit:


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=3046939144
&category=41085

Looks like it to me.

The 7s on obverse are not natural to a genuine piece IMHO and on the reverse,
the weakness at the center isn't there but a portion of a serif on one of the
Ns is missing. The rims seem wire in some areas and the denticles don't flow
towards the edge as on genuine examples. Of course, the lousy photos, done that
way on purpose I believe, don't make diagnosis easy!

You might ask, could this be a proof coin? Might be, but I doubt it. Most of
this guy's coins look polished and he even states that it was cleaned at one
time to resemble a MS-65!

I wouldn't touch it.

You know, it's "dealers" like this guy with their continuous estate sales amd
no returns for any reason policy that give legitamete sellers on eBay a bad
name, and it's not fair to tar all with the same brush.


Ira Stein
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Old September 17th 03, 01:14 AM
Crownliner
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ira, once again you are a wealth of information on coins and sellers.
although i have disagreed with eric and a few others over minor details like
feedback, shipping cost and other minor selling details, i have learned a
tremendous amount about this hobby and the business of selling coins.
haven't sold any yet, but my purchases are getting a lot fewer and a lot
smarter (i think).

i have also leaned that there are many very honest and honorable people here
who are willing to help others with no reward other than good feelings, and
helping promote a great hobby.

just my day to say thanks to all of you for over a years worth of valuable
information.

crownliner


"Ira Stein" wrote in message
...
Dan asks if this coin is counterfeit:


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=3046939144
&category=41085

Looks like it to me.

The 7s on obverse are not natural to a genuine piece IMHO and on the

reverse,
the weakness at the center isn't there but a portion of a serif on one of

the
Ns is missing. The rims seem wire in some areas and the denticles don't

flow
towards the edge as on genuine examples. Of course, the lousy photos, done

that
way on purpose I believe, don't make diagnosis easy!

You might ask, could this be a proof coin? Might be, but I doubt it. Most

of
this guy's coins look polished and he even states that it was cleaned at

one
time to resemble a MS-65!

I wouldn't touch it.

You know, it's "dealers" like this guy with their continuous estate sales

amd
no returns for any reason policy that give legitamete sellers on eBay a

bad
name, and it's not fair to tar all with the same brush.


Ira Stein



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Old September 17th 03, 06:16 PM
coinpage.com
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Who would buy such an expensive key date coin with bad images like that?


Mike B.
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(Barry K) wrote in message ...
1. Uncertified rare date coin
2. Lousy pictures

That's all you need to know. Don't even think about it.
Barry

On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 01:03:56 GMT, "Stardancer"
wrote:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=3046939144
&category=41085

Looks like it to me.

Regards

Dan


 




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