Lady Liberty vs. Athena

What would happen if Lady Liberty met Athena in a dark alley? The
pitting of the ancient Greek goddess of wisdom and warfare -- the
bedrock ideals of ancient Greece -- against the modern U.S. "goddess"
of independence and freedom -- the bedrock ideals of America. Here it
is visually:

http://rg.ancients.info/guide

There's more to coins than their shiny (or toned, patinated, worn,
scratched, pitted, or gauged) surfaces. There's also what they stand
for, the propaganda message they put out. There's the history of the
people who minted them. There's the wonder.

If Lady Liberty met Athena, they would first warily, intently, stare
at each other. Two-and-a-half millennia is a huge chasm to bridge.
Liberty, a product of her brutally open age, would break the ice.
"Come into the light," she'd say, pointing to a nearby streetlight,
"and walk unencumbered." "No clever trick of man can match the
brilliance of the noonday sun," Athena would say in return. "I'll take
my world of the misty past against your nuclear-scorched
uncertainty."

Noises intrude. They turn their heads toward the boisterousness and
follow it, into an Irish pub. Bathed by ancient Celtic music from the
jukebox, the split a pitcher of mead and marvel at their common
divinity. As they ready to leave, each adamantly insists on paying the
tab, Athena with her stater, Liberty with her quarter eagle.

A tall, emaciated man walks up to them and slaps a credit card on the
table, hard. "Save it for the coin club meeting," he says.

(I really need to get back to work...)

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On 29-Sep-2004, Reid Goldsborough wrote:

What would happen if Lady Liberty met Athena in a dark alley? The
pitting of the ancient Greek goddess of wisdom and warfare -- the
bedrock ideals of ancient Greece -- against the modern U.S. "goddess"
of independence and freedom -- the bedrock ideals of America.

Athena would kick her ass. Could liberty survive if wisdom and warfare were
not on her side? It's almost absurd to think of pitting wisdom against
liberty, but those goddesses do seem to get in more than their share of
spats.

"Papito" wrote in
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On 29-Sep-2004, Reid Goldsborough wrote:

What would happen if Lady Liberty met Athena in a dark alley? The
pitting of the ancient Greek goddess of wisdom and warfare -- the
bedrock ideals of ancient Greece -- against the modern U.S. "goddess"
of independence and freedom -- the bedrock ideals of America.

Athena would kick her ass. Could liberty survive if wisdom and
warfare were not on her side? It's almost absurd to think of pitting
wisdom against liberty, but those goddesses do seem to get in more
than their share of spats.


Agreed, the ass whooping inflicted by Athena would leave no doubt in the
worlds mind who had the superior philosophy.

And the emacited old man would get a whooping too.

This all reeks of the Miller beer commercial with the 2 super models
fighting in the fountain.

A more important question is, if Jesus and Mohammed had a boxing match.
who would win?

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Two words: Mud Wrestling.

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"Reid Goldsborough" wrote in message
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What would happen if Lady Liberty met Athena in a dark alley? The
pitting of the ancient Greek goddess of wisdom and warfare -- the
bedrock ideals of ancient Greece -- against the modern U.S. "goddess"
of independence and freedom -- the bedrock ideals of America. Here it
is visually:

http://rg.ancients.info/guide

There's more to coins than their shiny (or toned, patinated, worn,
scratched, pitted, or gauged) surfaces. There's also what they stand
for, the propaganda message they put out. There's the history of the
people who minted them. There's the wonder.

If Lady Liberty met Athena, they would first warily, intently, stare
at each other. Two-and-a-half millennia is a huge chasm to bridge.
Liberty, a product of her brutally open age, would break the ice.
"Come into the light," she'd say, pointing to a nearby streetlight,
"and walk unencumbered." "No clever trick of man can match the
brilliance of the noonday sun," Athena would say in return. "I'll take
my world of the misty past against your nuclear-scorched
uncertainty."

Noises intrude. They turn their heads toward the boisterousness and
follow it, into an Irish pub. Bathed by ancient Celtic music from the
jukebox, the split a pitcher of mead and marvel at their common
divinity. As they ready to leave, each adamantly insists on paying the
tab, Athena with her stater, Liberty with her quarter eagle.

A tall, emaciated man walks up to them and slaps a credit card on the
table, hard. "Save it for the coin club meeting," he says.

(I really need to get back to work...)

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On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 06:42:29 GMT, "Papito" wrote:

Athena would kick her ass. Could liberty survive if wisdom and warfare were
not on her side? It's almost absurd to think of pitting wisdom against
liberty, but those goddesses do seem to get in more than their share of
spats.

I don't know about this. You have to consider the consequences.
Liberty leads to or promotes all kinds of things -- initiative,
inventiveness, individualism, and so on. You could argue that Liberty
subsumes within herself wisdom -- one aspect of the dual-sided Athena.
I know: Athena is a tough broad, with her war helmet and all. But she
didn't help Athens much in the end, with the city first falling to
Sparta, then to Alexander the Great, then to Rome, and after that the
Athenians threw her out and replaced her with Christ. That was
followed by nearly two millennia of domination by the Byzantines and
Ottoman Turks. Still, Athens recently pulled off the Olympics, did a
marvelous job from most reports. I'd bet a tet that Athena is smiling.

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On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 11:18:20 GMT, joecoin
wrote:

This all reeks of the Miller beer commercial with the 2 super models
fighting in the fountain.

And "joecoin" reeks as yet another Usenet flameturd or much more
likely another online persona of one of the same group of five or six
hardcore flame people here. You've been here, in your current persona,
since July, having left, let's see, 120 messages since then. That's a
lot of message for a newbie. Gee, "Joe," I'm surprised you didn't
engage in name calling with this message of yours as you have before.
You're slipping. Say, how's that Hotmail account working out? You
wouldn't care to divulge who you really are? But you'd need to tell
the truth for it to mean anything. I know. Truth gets in the way. It's
hard.

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It's sort of like the famous question: "Who would in in a fight between
Superman and God?"

We're too old for that sort of speculation...

eric l.

Reid Goldsborough wrote:

And "joecoin" reeks as yet another Usenet flameturd or much more
likely another online persona of one of the same group of five or six
hardcore flame people here. You've been here, in your current persona,
since July, having left, let's see, 120 messages since then. That's a
lot of message for a newbie.

Looky, looky....the professional typist does a Google search, but because he
doesn't really know how to use Google effectively, his research is flawed...as
usual.

Didn't his sig "copper is as copper does" seem more familiar to you than his
e-mail address Reid?

Had you limited your Google search to the sig you would find out that the
poster is Joe Schell and he's been posting to RCC for 6 years....much longer
than you have.

Say, how's that Hotmail account working out?

Seems to be working out just fine considering he's been using it for at least
four of the six years he's been posting to RCC.

Just what the hell did you use for your search criteria?

Gee, "Joe," I'm surprised you didn't
engage in name calling with this message of yours...

Apparently he's more than happy to leave that to you.

You wouldn't care to divulge who you really are? But you'd need
to tell the truth for it to mean anything. I know. Truth gets in the
way. It's hard.

What an enormous hypocrite....the master of sockpuppetry lecturing someone
about tthe truth.


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When bidding online always sit on your helmet
Just say NO to counterfeits

On 30 Sep 2004 21:09:36 GMT, ulsion (Phil DeMayo) wrote:

Reid Goldsborough wrote:

And "joecoin" reeks as yet another Usenet flameturd or much more
likely another online persona of one of the same group of five or six
hardcore flame people here. You've been here, in your current persona,
since July, having left, let's see, 120 messages since then. That's a
lot of message for a newbie.

Looky, looky....the professional typist does a Google search, but because he
doesn't really know how to use Google effectively, his research is flawed...as
usual.

Didn't his sig "copper is as copper does" seem more familiar to you than his
e-mail address Reid?

Had you limited your Google search to the sig you would find out that the
poster is Joe Schell and he's been posting to RCC for 6 years....much longer
than you have.

Say, how's that Hotmail account working out?

Seems to be working out just fine considering he's been using it for at least
four of the six years he's been posting to RCC.

Just what the hell did you use for your search criteria?

Gee, "Joe," I'm surprised you didn't
engage in name calling with this message of yours...

Apparently he's more than happy to leave that to you.

You wouldn't care to divulge who you really are? But you'd need
to tell the truth for it to mean anything. I know. Truth gets in the
way. It's hard.

What an enormous hypocrite....the master of sockpuppetry lecturing someone
about tthe truth.

Bullseye!

No matter how many times he gets nailed on this stuff, he just comes back for more.

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"joecoin" wrote in message
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"Papito" wrote in
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On 29-Sep-2004, Reid Goldsborough wrote:

What would happen if Lady Liberty met Athena in a dark alley? The
pitting of the ancient Greek goddess of wisdom and warfare -- the
bedrock ideals of ancient Greece -- against the modern U.S. "goddess"
of independence and freedom -- the bedrock ideals of America.

Athena would kick her ass. Could liberty survive if wisdom and
warfare were not on her side? It's almost absurd to think of pitting
wisdom against liberty, but those goddesses do seem to get in more
than their share of spats.


Agreed, the ass whooping inflicted by Athena would leave no doubt in the
worlds mind who had the superior philosophy.

And the emacited old man would get a whooping too.

This all reeks of the Miller beer commercial with the 2 super models
fighting in the fountain.

A more important question is, if Jesus and Mohammed had a boxing match.
who would win?

Mohammed by decision. Jesus keeps turning the other cheek, and Mohammed
never shows his face. rimshot

(already going to hell for an earlier post, so one more won't make a
difference...)
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