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Old July 20th 06, 12:21 AM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
Treacan
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Default Stamp ID Please Scotland.

This stamp is supposed to be SMH56a. I do not have a SMH56 to compare
it to. Scott describes the differnce between type I and II and show
only two very small drawings of the difference. I don't see a line
from the eye to the background only a notch above. So I supposed that
it is SMH56?


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...GB-SMH56ax.jpg

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Old July 20th 06, 02:09 AM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
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Default Stamp ID Please Scotland.


Treacan wrote:
This stamp is supposed to be SMH56a. I do not have a SMH56 to compare
it to. Scott describes the differnce between type I and II and show
only two very small drawings of the difference. I don't see a line
from the eye to the background only a notch above. So I supposed that
it is SMH56?


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...GB-SMH56ax.jpg


Click on [symbol pics] at http://www.adminware.ca/machin/m031m.htm to
see the differences pictured and described. I am not an expert, and
agree that the notch rather than line at the eye is a bit confusing,
but trying to look at the neck beneath the killer cancel, yours could
be Type II.

Chris

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Old July 20th 06, 08:51 AM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
Douglas Myall
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Default Stamp ID Please Scotland.


"Treacan" wrote in message
ups.com...
This stamp is supposed to be SMH56a. I do not have a SMH56 to

compare
it to. Scott describes the differnce between type I and II and show
only two very small drawings of the difference. I don't see a line
from the eye to the background only a notch above. So I supposed

that
it is SMH56?


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...GB-SMH56ax.jpg


This has the type 2 symbol but it is the common Questa stamp not the
scarce Waddington one. (Only the Waddington stamp was printed with
both symbols)

Douglas (Deegam)

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Old July 20th 06, 08:57 AM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
Douglas Myall
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Default Stamp ID Please Scotland.


"Treacan" wrote in message
ups.com...
This stamp is supposed to be SMH56a. I do not have a SMH56 to

compare
it to. Scott describes the differnce between type I and II and show
only two very small drawings of the difference. I don't see a line
from the eye to the background only a notch above. So I supposed

that
it is SMH56?


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...GB-SMH56ax.jpg


I forgot to say that the best way of distinguishing the two symbols is
by the three curls left of the tail. On type 1 these are different
lengths. On type 2 they are all the same length.

Douglas (Deegam)
To contact me use:
deegam#btopenworld.com but change the # to @

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Old July 20th 06, 05:56 PM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
Treacan
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Default Stamp ID Please Scotland.

The Scott Catalog does not distinguish between Questa and Waddington.
types. Is there another catalog showing the different prices
Thanks.


Douglas Myall wrote:
"Treacan" wrote in message
ups.com...
This stamp is supposed to be SMH56a. I do not have a SMH56 to

compare
it to. Scott describes the differnce between type I and II and show
only two very small drawings of the difference. I don't see a line
from the eye to the background only a notch above. So I supposed

that
it is SMH56?


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...GB-SMH56ax.jpg


This has the type 2 symbol but it is the common Questa stamp not the
scarce Waddington one. (Only the Waddington stamp was printed with
both symbols)

Douglas (Deegam)


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Old July 20th 06, 11:53 PM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
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Default Stamp ID Please Scotland.


Treacan wrote:
The Scott Catalog does not distinguish between Questa and Waddington.
types. Is there another catalog showing the different prices
Thanks.


Douglas Myall wrote:
"Treacan" wrote in message
ups.com...
This stamp is supposed to be SMH56a. I do not have a SMH56 to

compare
it to. Scott describes the differnce between type I and II and show
only two very small drawings of the difference. I don't see a line
from the eye to the background only a notch above. So I supposed

that
it is SMH56?


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...GB-SMH56ax.jpg


This has the type 2 symbol but it is the common Questa stamp not the
scarce Waddington one. (Only the Waddington stamp was printed with
both symbols)

Douglas (Deegam)


SG Concise (2004 edition) has:-
S51 Waddington (Type I) (23-Oct-84) £2.25 mint or used
S51Ea Waddington (Type II) (Nov-85) £100/£70 M/U
S76 Questa (Type II, phosphorised paper) (29-Apr-86) £2/£1.90

If you really want to blow your mind, get SG Specialised Vol 4 which
goes into even more varieties, but you'll be relieved to hear not for
the 31p values.

Chris

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Old July 21st 06, 08:22 AM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
Douglas Myall
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Default Stamp ID Please Scotland.


"Treacan" wrote in message
ups.com...
The Scott Catalog does not distinguish between Questa and

Waddington.
types. Is there another catalog showing the different prices
Thanks.


Douglas Myall wrote:
"Treacan" wrote in message
ups.com...
This stamp is supposed to be SMH56a. I do not have a SMH56 to

compare
it to. Scott describes the differnce between type I and II and

show
only two very small drawings of the difference. I don't see a

line
from the eye to the background only a notch above. So I supposed

that
it is SMH56?


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...GB-SMH56ax.jpg


This has the type 2 symbol but it is the common Questa stamp not

the
scarce Waddington one. (Only the Waddington stamp was printed with
both symbols)

Douglas (Deegam)


Yes, there is my Complete Deegam Machin Handbook. E-mail me for
details as this is only a discussion group. (See above re a valid
e-mail address; the Pipex one will not work.)

There are three Scotland 31p stamps:

1. Type 1 issued 23 October 1984, perf. 14 (Waddington)
2. Type 2 issued 23 October 1984, perf. 14 (Waddington)
3. Type 2 issued 29 April 1986, perf. 15 x 14 (Questa)

No. 2 is the scarce one and usually retails at about GBP50+ used
(GBP100 mint).
The others are about GBP1 at most.

Is it really true that Scott lists only two of these stamps?

Douglas

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Old July 21st 06, 12:44 PM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
Treacan
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Default Stamp ID Please Scotland.

Yes Scott lists only 2. My stamps is perf 14 so it's not a Questa which
you have as 14 x 15. So I must assume now that it is a type II
Waddington.

Douglas Myall wrote:
"Treacan" wrote in message
ups.com...
The Scott Catalog does not distinguish between Questa and

Waddington.
types. Is there another catalog showing the different prices
Thanks.


Douglas Myall wrote:
"Treacan" wrote in message
ups.com...
This stamp is supposed to be SMH56a. I do not have a SMH56 to
compare
it to. Scott describes the differnce between type I and II and

show
only two very small drawings of the difference. I don't see a

line
from the eye to the background only a notch above. So I supposed
that
it is SMH56?


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...GB-SMH56ax.jpg


This has the type 2 symbol but it is the common Questa stamp not

the
scarce Waddington one. (Only the Waddington stamp was printed with
both symbols)

Douglas (Deegam)


Yes, there is my Complete Deegam Machin Handbook. E-mail me for
details as this is only a discussion group. (See above re a valid
e-mail address; the Pipex one will not work.)

There are three Scotland 31p stamps:

1. Type 1 issued 23 October 1984, perf. 14 (Waddington)
2. Type 2 issued 23 October 1984, perf. 14 (Waddington)
3. Type 2 issued 29 April 1986, perf. 15 x 14 (Questa)

No. 2 is the scarce one and usually retails at about GBP50+ used
(GBP100 mint).
The others are about GBP1 at most.

Is it really true that Scott lists only two of these stamps?

Douglas


 




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