Stamp ID Please China?

Can't find these Stamps?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...can/CF/Chn.jpg

Treacan asked :
Can't find these Stamps?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...can/CF/Chn.jpg

They are from Manchuria (japanese occupation) in 1936-37.
hth

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Best regards,
Bruno

Blair,
if you would be so kind.
Practicing my Japanese postmark date conversion.

If Manchukuo employs Japanese date styles,
Treacans stamp is 5/1/17
I have one in my collection 6/8/5

Does this translate as
17/1/1916 and 5/8/1917 respectively ?

Thanks



"bc92" wrote in message
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Treacan asked :
Can't find these Stamps?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...can/CF/Chn.jpg

They are from Manchuria (japanese occupation) in 1936-37.
hth

--
Best regards,
Bruno

You can find conversion of Japapnes calendar here
http://www.friesian.com/

Mitja

Rod wrote:
Blair,
if you would be so kind.
Practicing my Japanese postmark date conversion.

If Manchukuo employs Japanese date styles,
Treacans stamp is 5/1/17
I have one in my collection 6/8/5

Does this translate as
17/1/1916 and 5/8/1917 respectively ?

Thanks



"bc92" wrote in message
...
Treacan asked :
Can't find these Stamps?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...can/CF/Chn.jpg

They are from Manchuria (japanese occupation) in 1936-37.
hth

--
Best regards,
Bruno

Rod wrote:
Blair,
if you would be so kind.
Practicing my Japanese postmark date conversion.

If Manchukuo employs Japanese date styles,
Treacans stamp is 5/1/17
I have one in my collection 6/8/5

Does this translate as
17/1/1916 and 5/8/1917 respectively ?

The dates should be 17 January 1930 and 5 August 1931 if they are using
the Japanese reign period dates. The Showa era began in 1926 and ran
to 1989, but as the Japanese count inclusively, the simple solution is
to reckon the year from 1925.

Tony Mac Gillycuddy

Asia-translation wrote:
Rod wrote:
Blair,
if you would be so kind.
Practicing my Japanese postmark date conversion.

If Manchukuo employs Japanese date styles,
Treacans stamp is 5/1/17
I have one in my collection 6/8/5

Does this translate as
17/1/1916 and 5/8/1917 respectively ?

The dates should be 17 January 1930 and 5 August 1931 if they are using
the Japanese reign period dates. The Showa era began in 1926 and ran
to 1989, but as the Japanese count inclusively, the simple solution is
to reckon the year from 1925.

Tony Mac Gillycuddy

Further to Tont's note....

Japanese Era

From ancient times in Asia, it was the practice to count years
according
to the reign of an emperor. This custom of reckoning years by eras was

adopted in Japan in seventh century. From that time until the
nineteenth
century, the reigning emperor decided when one era ended and another
began.

Under the current system, adopted following the ascension of Emperor
Meiji in 1868,the era begins on the day an emperor ascends the throne
and continues until his death.

Thus Meiji era began in 1868 and lasted until 1912.
Showa began in 1926 when Emperor Hirohito ascended and lasted until
1989.
At present, the era is Heisei.

Meiji : 1868/ 9/ 8 - 1912/ 7/30
Taisho : 1912/ 7/30 - 1926/12/25
Showa : 1926/12/25 - 1989/ 1/ 7
Heisei : 1989/ 1/ 7 -

Actually, any date of the year during which era has changed,
could be referred in either era. For example, 1989/1/5 could be
referred as
Heisei 1st 1/5 as well.

Era changes at 12:00 noon so eras do not overlap in terms of hours
although it does in terms of day.

http://www.009.com/japanera/english.shtml

Blair

Ask a simple question and get an education. Thanks Blair.
Treacan
Blair (TC) wrote:
Asia-translation wrote:
Rod wrote:
Blair,
if you would be so kind.
Practicing my Japanese postmark date conversion.

If Manchukuo employs Japanese date styles,
Treacans stamp is 5/1/17
I have one in my collection 6/8/5

Does this translate as
17/1/1916 and 5/8/1917 respectively ?

The dates should be 17 January 1930 and 5 August 1931 if they are using
the Japanese reign period dates. The Showa era began in 1926 and ran
to 1989, but as the Japanese count inclusively, the simple solution is
to reckon the year from 1925.

Tony Mac Gillycuddy

Further to Tont's note....

Japanese Era

From ancient times in Asia, it was the practice to count years
according
to the reign of an emperor. This custom of reckoning years by eras was

adopted in Japan in seventh century. From that time until the
nineteenth
century, the reigning emperor decided when one era ended and another
began.

Under the current system, adopted following the ascension of Emperor
Meiji in 1868,the era begins on the day an emperor ascends the throne
and continues until his death.

Thus Meiji era began in 1868 and lasted until 1912.
Showa began in 1926 when Emperor Hirohito ascended and lasted until
1989.
At present, the era is Heisei.

Meiji : 1868/ 9/ 8 - 1912/ 7/30
Taisho : 1912/ 7/30 - 1926/12/25
Showa : 1926/12/25 - 1989/ 1/ 7
Heisei : 1989/ 1/ 7 -

Actually, any date of the year during which era has changed,
could be referred in either era. For example, 1989/1/5 could be
referred as
Heisei 1st 1/5 as well.

Era changes at 12:00 noon so eras do not overlap in terms of hours
although it does in terms of day.

http://www.009.com/japanera/english.shtml

Blair

Blair (TC) wrote :

Meiji : 1868/ 9/ 8 - 1912/ 7/30
Taisho : 1912/ 7/30 - 1926/12/25
Showa : 1926/12/25 - 1989/ 1/ 7
Heisei : 1989/ 1/ 7 -

Hello Blair,
I had already filed this info, following a previous answer
from you.

However, in order to make the answer complete (here the date
stamp shows 5.1.17), we have to determine whether the year
is 5 or 17.
Since the stamp was issued in 1937, the japanese year should
be 17, the 17th year of the Showa era.
1926 is the 1st year of the Showa era.
1942 is the 17th year.

Correct ?

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Best regards,
Bruno

Ask a simple question and get an education. Thanks Blair.
Treacan

Indeed,
boy, that was a gaffe and a half,
of course 1930's if Manchkuo stamps appeared in 1932.
So we can conclude that they cannot be Japanese reign
period dates.
We cannot have 1931 cancel on a 1937 stamp

Thanks very much Tony and Blair.

Rod wrote:
Ask a simple question and get an education. Thanks Blair.
Treacan

Indeed,
boy, that was a gaffe and a half,
of course 1930's if Manchkuo stamps appeared in 1932.
So we can conclude that they cannot be Japanese reign
period dates.
We cannot have 1931 cancel on a 1937 stamp

Then these dates must count from the foundation of Manchukuo in 1932.
So counting inclusively, the dates on the cancels would be 17 January
1936 and 5 August 1937.

Tony Mac Gillycuddy