Are 2008-2009 nickels scarce?

On Jan 31, 8:24*am, "Bruce Remick" wrote:
"oly" wrote in message

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On Jan 29, 11:35 pm, Jerry Dennis wrote:





On Jan 30, 12:15 am, "Dr. Richard L. Hall"
wrote:

A couple of weeks ago, I went through 20 rolls of nickels that I got
from my
bank and didn't find a single 2009-dated nickel. There were a handful of
2008's so at least they're out there. I didn't find much else either,
only
2 nickels before 1950, a 1939 and a 1949. Bummer!

I also went through 20 rolls of cents and found only 3 2009-dated
Lincolns,
all "professional life" types. Those were the first 2009 dated coins
that I
found except for 2 DC Terrritorial Quarters.

--
Richardhttp://coins.richlh.com/MyCoinLinks.htmhttp://www.richlh.com
Don't lament that the rose bush has thorns. Rejoice that the thornbush
has
roses. [Ancient Egyptian Saying]

."george pearl" wrote in message

....

I'VE never received one in my change yet and short of buying a case of
jeffersons and searching the lot, I'm not sure that they are out
there. Does anyone have any information on this?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

You're doing better than I am, Doc. After helping my boss/partner
empty the coin-op washers and dryers this past week, I noticed my
second DC-P quarter. Still no PR, GU, AS, VI, or NMI. The Mint's
production figures say there are millions of them out there. I'm not
seeing them.

As for other 2009 coins, I've seen 2009 Kennedys (with thanks to Jud)
and a few sporatic cents. Trying to get rolls of anything new from
the local banks is an exercise in futility.

Jerry- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

In the past month in Central Illinois, I've had all the 2009 quarters
in change except the Marianas' coin. *I've had all four of the 2009
Linocln cents. *Both the quarters and cents aren't over abundant, but
not impossible (and I cover a lot of territory during the month -
several cities between Quincy and Danville). *But, NO 2009 nickels or
dimes.

On Saturday, the Mall Area here on the southwest side of Springpatch
looks like pre-recession "business as usual". *Not the other days of
the week, but Saturday looks normal.

oly
====================

In the N VA suburbs, I see the restaurants and theaters as busy as ever, but
the malls seem to be struggling based on the limited number of people in
many of the stores. *How many boutique mod clothing stores can one area
handle?

I also noted that the local coin shop (Century Stamps & Coins) that had been
in place for at least 30 years closed up/down a couple weeks ago. *Don't
know if it was because of the economy or not, or if it will be relocating,
but it will be missed here. *I often wondered how it survived all those
years with so few customers around any time I stopped in. *About like many
antique shops. *How do they survive with maybe a handful of browsers each
day? *Mail order? *Dealer to dealer? *Ebay?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Like you, I find it is the restaurants and theaters that are most
busy.

Many shop dealers wait for "the big buy", or at least a series of
smaller good deals. They "make it" on the "buy" side, ship the
material to liquidate it.

Thirty years is a hell of a run for a local coin shop.

oly

Bruce Remick wrote:
"oly" wrote in message
...
On Jan 29, 11:35 pm, Jerry Dennis wrote:
On Jan 30, 12:15 am, "Dr. Richard L. Hall"
wrote:





A couple of weeks ago, I went through 20 rolls of nickels that I got
from my
bank and didn't find a single 2009-dated nickel. There were a
handful of 2008's so at least they're out there. I didn't find much
else either, only
2 nickels before 1950, a 1939 and a 1949. Bummer!

I also went through 20 rolls of cents and found only 3 2009-dated
Lincolns,
all "professional life" types. Those were the first 2009 dated coins
that I
found except for 2 DC Terrritorial Quarters.

--
Richardhttp://coins.richlh.com/MyCoinLinks.htmhttp://www.richlh.com
Don't lament that the rose bush has thorns. Rejoice that the
thornbush has
roses. [Ancient Egyptian Saying]

."george pearl" wrote in message

...

I'VE never received one in my change yet and short of buying a
case of jeffersons and searching the lot, I'm not sure that they
are out there. Does anyone have any information on this?- Hide
quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

You're doing better than I am, Doc. After helping my boss/partner
empty the coin-op washers and dryers this past week, I noticed my
second DC-P quarter. Still no PR, GU, AS, VI, or NMI. The Mint's
production figures say there are millions of them out there. I'm not
seeing them.

As for other 2009 coins, I've seen 2009 Kennedys (with thanks to Jud)
and a few sporatic cents. Trying to get rolls of anything new from
the local banks is an exercise in futility.

Jerry- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

In the past month in Central Illinois, I've had all the 2009 quarters
in change except the Marianas' coin. I've had all four of the 2009
Linocln cents. Both the quarters and cents aren't over abundant, but
not impossible (and I cover a lot of territory during the month -
several cities between Quincy and Danville). But, NO 2009 nickels or
dimes.

On Saturday, the Mall Area here on the southwest side of Springpatch
looks like pre-recession "business as usual". Not the other days of
the week, but Saturday looks normal.

oly
====================

In the N VA suburbs, I see the restaurants and theaters as busy as
ever, but the malls seem to be struggling based on the limited number
of people in many of the stores. How many boutique mod clothing
stores can one area handle?

I also noted that the local coin shop (Century Stamps & Coins) that
had been in place for at least 30 years closed up/down a couple weeks
ago. Don't know if it was because of the economy or not, or if it
will be relocating, but it will be missed here. I often wondered how
it survived all those years with so few customers around any time I
stopped in. About like many antique shops. How do they survive with
maybe a handful of browsers each day? Mail order? Dealer to dealer?
Ebay?

Several of the coin shops within driving distance of North Lugburz survived
because the real income of their owners came from day trading and the like.
The shop was just icing on the cake. When the ground shook and the soufflé
fell, the marginal coin component of the business could no longer sustain
the overhead. Couple that with the fact that so many shops were started
during those heady days in the 50s and 60s, when coin clubs were burgeoning,
and now you have guys retiring with no one able or willing to buy the
business.

This is off-topic, but perhaps illustrative: we had a Butternut bread
outlet in town that did a brisk business. At lease renewal the building
owner demanded twice the rent, and the company decided to close the store
rather than pay the increase. That was three years ago. The building has
since sat empty continuously.

James

"Mr. Jaggers" lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com wrote in message
...

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This is off-topic, but perhaps illustrative: we had a Butternut bread
outlet in town that did a brisk business. At lease renewal the building
owner demanded twice the rent, and the company decided to close the store
rather than pay the increase. That was three years ago. The building has
since sat empty continuously.

I've often wondered why landlords do that - raise the rent to the point
where the tenant's business is no longer sustainable, forcing it to vacate.
The property then sits empty for months or years. Unless the owner needs
the tax write-offs, it seems to be the product of stupid, arrogant greed.
Both sides lose but only one deserves it.

Getting back on topic... Regarding the demise of coin shops, as with many
small retailers, the Internet combined with the perceived security of TPG
slabbing has taken its toll on walk-in trade. And ironically, many of the
small specialty shops that are still operating depend on Internet sales to
make ends meet.

"mazorj" wrote in message
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"Mr. Jaggers" lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com wrote in message
...

...
This is off-topic, but perhaps illustrative: we had a Butternut bread
outlet in town that did a brisk business. At lease renewal the building
owner demanded twice the rent, and the company decided to close the store
rather than pay the increase. That was three years ago. The building
has since sat empty continuously.

I've often wondered why landlords do that - raise the rent to the point
where the tenant's business is no longer sustainable, forcing it to
vacate. The property then sits empty for months or years. Unless the
owner needs the tax write-offs, it seems to be the product of stupid,
arrogant greed. Both sides lose but only one deserves it.

Getting back on topic... Regarding the demise of coin shops, as with many
small retailers, the Internet combined with the perceived security of TPG
slabbing has taken its toll on walk-in trade. And ironically, many of the
small specialty shops that are still operating depend on Internet sales to
make ends meet.


Over the years, several of the local coin shops would add stock in whatever
other hobby items were hot, e.g. comics, sports cards, beanie babies, etc.,
in order to stay "relevant" and solvent. Lately, that hasn't seemed to make
a difference. Coin-wise, I agree that eBay and an increasing distrust of
any remainingy nice raw coin that hasn't been submitted for slabbing must be
taking a toll on any strip-mall coin shops that depend on walk-in trade.

"Bruce Remick" wrote in message
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"mazorj" wrote in message
...

"Mr. Jaggers" lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com wrote in message
...

...
This is off-topic, but perhaps illustrative: we had a Butternut bread
outlet in town that did a brisk business. At lease renewal the building
owner demanded twice the rent, and the company decided to close the
store rather than pay the increase. That was three years ago. The
building has since sat empty continuously.

I've often wondered why landlords do that - raise the rent to the point
where the tenant's business is no longer sustainable, forcing it to
vacate. The property then sits empty for months or years. Unless the
owner needs the tax write-offs, it seems to be the product of stupid,
arrogant greed. Both sides lose but only one deserves it.

Getting back on topic... Regarding the demise of coin shops, as with many
small retailers, the Internet combined with the perceived security of TPG
slabbing has taken its toll on walk-in trade. And ironically, many of
the small specialty shops that are still operating depend on Internet
sales to make ends meet.

Over the years, several of the local coin shops would add stock in
whatever other hobby items were hot, e.g. comics, sports cards, beanie
babies, etc., in order to stay "relevant" and solvent. Lately, that
hasn't seemed to make a difference. Coin-wise, I agree that eBay and an
increasing distrust of any remainingy nice raw coin that hasn't been
submitted for slabbing must be taking a toll on any strip-mall coin shops
that depend on walk-in trade.

At the other end of the coin trade, I miss the small hobby shops. Not only
did they have tantalizing selections of specialized hobby items and tools
not found elsewhere for train buffs, modelers, etc. but many also would have
one of those motorized glass cases with about ten little shelves that you
could make go up or down and around to see all of the coins (usually in
cardboard mounts). Either that or one of the regular glass cases had a coin
section. The owner may or may not have known a whole lot about numismatics
but I could never pass one by without at least looking.

"mazorj" wrote in message
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"Bruce Remick" wrote in message
...

"mazorj" wrote in message
...

"Mr. Jaggers" lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com wrote in message
...

...
This is off-topic, but perhaps illustrative: we had a Butternut bread
outlet in town that did a brisk business. At lease renewal the
building owner demanded twice the rent, and the company decided to
close the store rather than pay the increase. That was three years
ago. The building has since sat empty continuously.

I've often wondered why landlords do that - raise the rent to the point
where the tenant's business is no longer sustainable, forcing it to
vacate. The property then sits empty for months or years. Unless the
owner needs the tax write-offs, it seems to be the product of stupid,
arrogant greed. Both sides lose but only one deserves it.

Getting back on topic... Regarding the demise of coin shops, as with
many small retailers, the Internet combined with the perceived security
of TPG slabbing has taken its toll on walk-in trade. And ironically,
many of the small specialty shops that are still operating depend on
Internet sales to make ends meet.

Over the years, several of the local coin shops would add stock in
whatever other hobby items were hot, e.g. comics, sports cards, beanie
babies, etc., in order to stay "relevant" and solvent. Lately, that
hasn't seemed to make a difference. Coin-wise, I agree that eBay and an
increasing distrust of any remainingy nice raw coin that hasn't been
submitted for slabbing must be taking a toll on any strip-mall coin shops
that depend on walk-in trade.

At the other end of the coin trade, I miss the small hobby shops. Not
only did they have tantalizing selections of specialized hobby items and
tools not found elsewhere for train buffs, modelers, etc. but many also
would have one of those motorized glass cases with about ten little
shelves that you could make go up or down and around to see all of the
coins (usually in cardboard mounts). Either that or one of the regular
glass cases had a coin section. The owner may or may not have known a
whole lot about numismatics but I could never pass one by without at least
looking.


Most of our local shops, including the one that just closed, had rows of
those showcases with the rotating trays. I kept looking at the dusty 2x2's
and rusty staples and wondered if they ever sold anything out of there.

One of our larger shops had a great 30' long weekly Bid Board that closed
every Tuesday night. Large crowds of collectors would gather three deep as
the clock wound down, fighting to see if they had been outbid or checking to
see if the item they submitted was attracting bidders. Sadly, people
gradually lost interest in the Bid Board when they saw most of the coins up
there were coming from the dealer's own overpriced and overgraded stock.

"Bruce Remick" wrote in message
...
Over the years, several of the local coin shops would add stock in whatever
other hobby items were hot, e.g. comics, sports cards, beanie babies, etc., in
order to stay "relevant" and solvent. Lately, that hasn't seemed to make a
difference. Coin-wise, I agree that eBay and an increasing distrust of any
remainingy nice raw coin that hasn't been submitted for slabbing must be
taking a toll on any strip-mall coin shops that depend on walk-in trade.

The coin store near me does most of his business trading gold & silver (coins,
bullion, scrap, etc.).
He has a couple of display cases with nice but unslabbed US coins, which don't
appear to be moving any too fast from what I can discern, despite what I feel
are fair prices.
Apparently the bullion business is working for him since he has opened a couple
of other storefronts in the area.

Bruce Remick wrote:
"mazorj" wrote in message
...

"Mr. Jaggers" lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com wrote in message
...

...
This is off-topic, but perhaps illustrative: we had a Butternut
bread outlet in town that did a brisk business. At lease renewal
the building owner demanded twice the rent, and the company decided
to close the store rather than pay the increase. That was three
years ago. The building has since sat empty continuously.

I've often wondered why landlords do that - raise the rent to the
point where the tenant's business is no longer sustainable, forcing
it to vacate. The property then sits empty for months or years. Unless
the owner needs the tax write-offs, it seems to be the
product of stupid, arrogant greed. Both sides lose but only one
deserves it. Getting back on topic... Regarding the demise of coin shops,
as with
many small retailers, the Internet combined with the perceived
security of TPG slabbing has taken its toll on walk-in trade. And
ironically, many of the small specialty shops that are still
operating depend on Internet sales to make ends meet.


Over the years, several of the local coin shops would add stock in
whatever other hobby items were hot, e.g. comics, sports cards,
beanie babies, etc., in order to stay "relevant" and solvent. Lately, that
hasn't seemed to make a difference. Coin-wise, I agree
that eBay and an increasing distrust of any remainingy nice raw coin
that hasn't been submitted for slabbing must be taking a toll on any
strip-mall coin shops that depend on walk-in trade.

One problem you didn't mention is that coin shops (and dealers' cases at
coin shows, as well as eBay offerings) generally house several coins that
actually have been submitted for slabbing but didn't get slabbed. There
they sit, with no indication of their history, waiting for someone to bite.

James the Bitten

oly wrote:
On Jan 31, 8:24 am, "Bruce Remick" wrote:
"oly" wrote in message

...
On Jan 29, 11:35 pm, Jerry Dennis wrote:





On Jan 30, 12:15 am, "Dr. Richard L. Hall"
wrote:

A couple of weeks ago, I went through 20 rolls of nickels that I
got from my
bank and didn't find a single 2009-dated nickel. There were a
handful of 2008's so at least they're out there. I didn't find
much else either, only
2 nickels before 1950, a 1939 and a 1949. Bummer!

I also went through 20 rolls of cents and found only 3 2009-dated
Lincolns,
all "professional life" types. Those were the first 2009 dated
coins that I
found except for 2 DC Terrritorial Quarters.

--
Richardhttp://coins.richlh.com/MyCoinLinks.htmhttp://www.richlh.com
Don't lament that the rose bush has thorns. Rejoice that the
thornbush has
roses. [Ancient Egyptian Saying]

."george pearl" wrote in message

...

I'VE never received one in my change yet and short of buying a
case of jeffersons and searching the lot, I'm not sure that they
are out there. Does anyone have any information on this?- Hide
quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

You're doing better than I am, Doc. After helping my boss/partner
empty the coin-op washers and dryers this past week, I noticed my
second DC-P quarter. Still no PR, GU, AS, VI, or NMI. The Mint's
production figures say there are millions of them out there. I'm not
seeing them.

As for other 2009 coins, I've seen 2009 Kennedys (with thanks to
Jud) and a few sporatic cents. Trying to get rolls of anything new
from the local banks is an exercise in futility.

Jerry- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

In the past month in Central Illinois, I've had all the 2009 quarters
in change except the Marianas' coin. I've had all four of the 2009
Linocln cents. Both the quarters and cents aren't over abundant, but
not impossible (and I cover a lot of territory during the month -
several cities between Quincy and Danville). But, NO 2009 nickels or
dimes.

On Saturday, the Mall Area here on the southwest side of Springpatch
looks like pre-recession "business as usual". Not the other days of
the week, but Saturday looks normal.

oly
====================

In the N VA suburbs, I see the restaurants and theaters as busy as
ever, but the malls seem to be struggling based on the limited
number of people in many of the stores. How many boutique mod
clothing stores can one area handle?

I also noted that the local coin shop (Century Stamps & Coins) that
had been in place for at least 30 years closed up/down a couple
weeks ago. Don't know if it was because of the economy or not, or if
it will be relocating, but it will be missed here. I often wondered
how it survived all those years with so few customers around any
time I stopped in. About like many antique shops. How do they
survive with maybe a handful of browsers each day? Mail order?
Dealer to dealer? Ebay?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Like you, I find it is the restaurants and theaters that are most
busy.

Many shop dealers wait for "the big buy", or at least a series of
smaller good deals. They "make it" on the "buy" side, ship the
material to liquidate it.

Thirty years is a hell of a run for a local coin shop.

Aren't all coin shops local?

James

On Jan 31, 4:27*pm, "Mr. Jaggers" lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com wrote:
oly wrote:
On Jan 31, 8:24 am, "Bruce Remick" wrote:
"oly" wrote in message

....
On Jan 29, 11:35 pm, Jerry Dennis wrote:

On Jan 30, 12:15 am, "Dr. Richard L. Hall"
wrote:

A couple of weeks ago, I went through 20 rolls of nickels that I
got from my
bank and didn't find a single 2009-dated nickel. There were a
handful of 2008's so at least they're out there. I didn't find
much else either, only
2 nickels before 1950, a 1939 and a 1949. Bummer!

I also went through 20 rolls of cents and found only 3 2009-dated
Lincolns,
all "professional life" types. Those were the first 2009 dated
coins that I
found except for 2 DC Terrritorial Quarters.

--
Richardhttp://coins.richlh.com/MyCoinLinks.htmhttp://www.richlh.com
Don't lament that the rose bush has thorns. Rejoice that the
thornbush has
roses. [Ancient Egyptian Saying]

."george pearl" wrote in message

....

I'VE never received one in my change yet and short of buying a
case of jeffersons and searching the lot, I'm not sure that they
are out there. Does anyone have any information on this?- Hide
quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

You're doing better than I am, Doc. After helping my boss/partner
empty the coin-op washers and dryers this past week, I noticed my
second DC-P quarter. Still no PR, GU, AS, VI, or NMI. The Mint's
production figures say there are millions of them out there. I'm not
seeing them.

As for other 2009 coins, I've seen 2009 Kennedys (with thanks to
Jud) and a few sporatic cents. Trying to get rolls of anything new
from the local banks is an exercise in futility.

Jerry- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

In the past month in Central Illinois, I've had all the 2009 quarters
in change except the Marianas' coin. I've had all four of the 2009
Linocln cents. Both the quarters and cents aren't over abundant, but
not impossible (and I cover a lot of territory during the month -
several cities between Quincy and Danville). But, NO 2009 nickels or
dimes.

On Saturday, the Mall Area here on the southwest side of Springpatch
looks like pre-recession "business as usual". Not the other days of
the week, but Saturday looks normal.

oly
====================

In the N VA suburbs, I see the restaurants and theaters as busy as
ever, but the malls seem to be struggling based on the limited
number of people in many of the stores. How many boutique mod
clothing stores can one area handle?

I also noted that the local coin shop (Century Stamps & Coins) that
had been in place for at least 30 years closed up/down a couple
weeks ago. Don't know if it was because of the economy or not, or if
it will be relocating, but it will be missed here. I often wondered
how it survived all those years with so few customers around any
time I stopped in. About like many antique shops. How do they
survive with maybe a handful of browsers each day? Mail order?
Dealer to dealer? Ebay?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Like you, I find it is the restaurants and theaters that are most
busy.

Many shop dealers wait for "the big buy", or at least a series of
smaller good deals. *They "make it" on the "buy" side, ship the
material to liquidate it.

Thirty years is a hell of a run for a local coin shop.

Aren't all coin shops local?

James- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Stack's, Spink, Coincraft, Harlan J. Berk's - these seem to rise well
above their particular locale. I suspect my list isn't all inclusive.

oly