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Old July 5th 09, 04:55 AM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
Rodney
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Default Hungarian query.

Changing political boundaries often prevent
the digital cruise.
I have DEES and BARTFA on early Hungarian strikes,
but unable to find them on falling rain.
Anyone recognise them?
Dees may have been in Transylvania.


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Old July 5th 09, 03:49 PM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
Blair[_2_]
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Default Hungarian query.

On Jul 4, 11:55*pm, "rodney" wrote:
Changing political boundaries often prevent
the digital cruise.
I have DEES and BARTFA on early Hungarian strikes,
but unable to find them on falling rain.
Anyone recognise them?
Dees may have been in Transylvania.



Could we see a scan please?



Dees, a town of Transylvania, on the Szamos, 37 miles NNE.
of Klausenburg by rail. Pop. 9191.
Title Chambers's Concise Gazetteer Of The World
Author David Patrick Publisher W. & R. Chambers, Ltd
Year: 1906

Klausenburg

Klausenburg (Hungarian - Kolozsvar; Romanian - Cluj), is
one of the chief cities in Transylvania, 95 miles by rail E.
by S. of Grosswardein. Here are a university (1872) and
a Unitarian College. Pop. 50,000 (1906).

Dees , or more properly Déés (Dej in Romanian)
is in Transylvania.
(Ref: Transylvania: Its Products and Its People,
Charles Boner, Publ. Longmans (London) 1865)
Pg 422-424

http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive...9C946196D 6CF
http://books.google.ca/books?id=1wkC...A422&lpg=PA422

In 1920 it was occupied by Romania.

Dej (in Hungarian Dés) is a city in Cluj County of Romania
(in the valley of Somes River in Transylvania).
The city had 37.745 inhabitants (17,0% Hungarians,
1992 census). The settlement was the town and the
capital of the Szolnok-Doboka (in Rumanian
Solnoc-Dobâca) County of Hungary to 1918/1920
(Rumanian occupation/Treaty of Trianon). 1920-1940
in Rumania - capital of Somes (in Hungarian Szamos)
County. 1940-1944 in Hungary (after the Decision
of Vienna II). The treaty of Paris reallocated it to
Romania.

The city is a birthplace of the Hungarian dictionary
writer and physician, Ferenc Pápai Páriz (1649-1716)

Blair
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Old July 5th 09, 04:08 PM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
Blair[_2_]
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Default Hungarian query.

On Jul 4, 11:55Â*pm, "rodney" wrote:
Changing political boundaries often prevent
the digital cruise.
I have DEES and BARTFA on early Hungarian strikes,
but unable to find them on falling rain.
Anyone recognise them?
Dees may have been in Transylvania.




Bártfa (aka Bardejov (Slovakian), Bartfeld, Bardiów,
and Bartpha) is now in NE Slovakia.

Bargejov is located at : 49° 17′ 40’’ N, . 21° 16′ 35’’ E
http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/atlas.../czech-map.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bardejov

Blair



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Old July 5th 09, 10:32 PM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
Rodney
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Default Hungarian query.


"Blair"
Could we see a scan please?

Thanks very much Blair, wonderful stuff.
http://cjoint.com/data/hfxAkdk0hX.htm

I am not comfortable surfing around europe
I do not really understand the history, but some
of these towns are so beautiful, picture postcard stuff.
The apparent ad hoc name on the hammer confuses somewhat,
I wonder what the regime was in selecting the anglicised name at the time?
thanks again.
Rodney



Dees, a town of Transylvania, on the Szamos, 37 miles NNE.
of Klausenburg by rail. Pop. 9191.
Title Chambers's Concise Gazetteer Of The World
Author David Patrick Publisher W. & R. Chambers, Ltd
Year: 1906

Klausenburg

Klausenburg (Hungarian - Kolozsvar; Romanian - Cluj), is
one of the chief cities in Transylvania, 95 miles by rail E.
by S. of Grosswardein. Here are a university (1872) and
a Unitarian College. Pop. 50,000 (1906).

Dees , or more properly Déés (Dej in Romanian)
is in Transylvania.
(Ref: Transylvania: Its Products and Its People,
Charles Boner, Publ. Longmans (London) 1865)
Pg 422-424

http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive...9C946196D 6CF
http://books.google.ca/books?id=1wkC...A422&lpg=PA422

In 1920 it was occupied by Romania.

Dej (in Hungarian Dés) is a city in Cluj County of Romania
(in the valley of Somes River in Transylvania).
The city had 37.745 inhabitants (17,0% Hungarians,
1992 census). The settlement was the town and the
capital of the Szolnok-Doboka (in Rumanian
Solnoc-Dobâca) County of Hungary to 1918/1920
(Rumanian occupation/Treaty of Trianon). 1920-1940
in Rumania - capital of Somes (in Hungarian Szamos)
County. 1940-1944 in Hungary (after the Decision
of Vienna II). The treaty of Paris reallocated it to
Romania.

The city is a birthplace of the Hungarian dictionary
writer and physician, Ferenc Pápai Páriz (1649-1716)

Blair


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Old July 6th 09, 04:13 AM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
Blair[_2_]
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Default Hungarian query.

On Jul 5, 5:32*pm, "rodney" wrote:

Thanks very much Blair, wonderful stuff.http://cjoint.com/data/hfxAkdk0hX..htm

I am not comfortable surfing around europe
I do not really understand the history, but some
of these towns are so beautiful, picture postcard stuff.
The apparent ad hoc name on the hammer confuses somewhat,
I wonder what the regime was in selecting the anglicised name at the time?
thanks again.
Rodney


I have learned new things nearly every day, thanks to 55 years
of collecting stamps.

I don't think that either cancel is anglicised. Where a town has
been under the control of Poland, Czechoslovakia,. Slovakia,
Austria-Hungary, Romania, Germany etc.. it is not unusual for
the town to have had a name in each language. German,
Hungarian, Polish, Slovac, and Romanian maybe.

Blair

 




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