Arrogant Ebay

"Israel Bick" wrote
These people on here have no realization

Blah, blah, blah.

Whenever some idiot starts their post with
"these people on here", one can know what's coming next:
obtuse generalizations.

link

Israel Bick wrote:
... real world consumers require constant reminders
to buy - it's called advertising and promotion.
Everyone claims thay don't want advertising, but
if its the right kind -targeted to
their needs, they DO want it...

Funniest thing I've read yet about justifying spam.

... Do you refuse to read an ad because
you didn't "request" it?...

Yes I do.

... Do you refuse to buy from any vendor who
advertises because you are smart enough to
look for someting you want on your own?

Yes I do.

I think not!!!!

True. You think not.

Lumpy
--
www.lumpymusic.com
In Your Ears for 40 Years

Well, Link, you are posting from Comcast, and you did make a solemn promise
to to say hateful things about people.

Prohibited uses include, but are not limited to, using the Service, Customer
Equipment, or the Comcast Equipment to:


(ii) post, store, send, transmit, or disseminate any information or material
which a reasonable person could deem to be objectionable, offensive,
indecent, pornographic, harassing, threatening, embarrassing, distressing,
vulgar, hateful, racially or ethnically offensive, or otherwise
inappropriate, regardless of whether this material or its dissemination is
unlawful;

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RARE COIN AUCTIONS NO MINIMUMS http://www.frankcoins.com
Ebay Powerseller FRANKCOINS Texas Auction License 11259
Board member of Texas Coin Dealers Association, Fort Worth Coin Club.
Member: Texas Numismatic Assoc, American Numismatic Assoc.

"a. linklurker" wrote in message
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"Israel Bick" wrote
"a. linklurker" wrote:
Why don't you stick your nose in Frank Provasek's asshole?

Isn't it odd that these people who believe in following all of the
rules that they have made a "solemn promise" to observe don't
mind violating their ISP's rules against profane, vulgar, hurtful
posts?


Aw, gee.
Actually, you don't know the rules well, or, at all.

link

"Israel Bick" wrote in message
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These people on here have no realization that real world consumers
require constant reminders to buy - it's called advertising and promotion.
Everyone claims thay don't want advertising, but if its the right
kind -targeted
to their needs, they DO want it. Do you people spend all your time
complaining to the post office about every piece of unsolictied junk
mail you receive in your mailbox? Do you refuse to read an ad because
you didn't "request" it? Do you refuse to buy from any vendor who
advertises
because you are smart enough to look for someting you want on your own?
I think not!!!!


Ok, so you say spam, oh my bad, advertising, is targeted advertising... so
why am I getting adds for Viagra when I'm 23??? Really now, your "claims"
have more holes than swiss cheese. Do I use AOL because they send me a cd
every week? Heck no, not even with the free hours. I'm happy with my ISP, no
desire to change, yet they keep sending them. I do refuse to buy from
vendors that spam me. I purchased a truck from a dealer over 2 years ago.
They send me crap about I'm qualified for a certain amount... Well, fine
print... Only if you qualify. A *SMART* person assumes there is something
behind the claim they see in the spam and don't pursue it... or if it is a
product they desire, research it on their own first, then buy.

"Lumpy" wrote in message
...
James Brautigan wrote:
...You have to make effort to keep your customers.
Let them know about special items that they might
want.

Lumpy wrote:
Dear One Time Customer -
Thanks for buying that 1947d penny from me.
I'll be "working you" in the future because
you're too stupid to look for or even know
what you want in a collectible coin. Don't
worry, I'll let you know what you want.
You don't have a choice. Oh, and this is
not spam. You now belong to us.

Terry Clinghan wrote:
Coin collectors work on sets so if they have bought a
1947d penny they might also need the one from
san francisco and pittsbugh.

Dear One Time Customer -
Told you we'd be "working you".
Since you're too stupid to know, we're telling
you now that you need a 1947s and a 1947p penny
to complete your set. And since you're too stupid
to search on your own, we'll notify you when we
have one available. When that happens you'll be
notified and you MUST purchase it. Because you
need it. This is not spam because we said so.

Lumpy
--
www.lumpymusic.com
In Your Ears for 40 Years



I like what you wrote Lumpy. LOL even. It's just too bad that these people
feel the need to spam to advertise. A good example is sig's. I refuse to
click on Frank's because its so rediculously long... but I clicked on yours
lumpy... You have a catchy line under your url. For frank and all those that
believe its ok to spam, really think about it. If you can't actually be
creative and have to resort to spamming former customers, what's your stuff
really worth? Oh, and lumpy, nice site too! I remember the pics of the
beachfront property in phoenix ya showed. :-) good stuff!!

"Lumpy" wrote in message
...
Israel Bick wrote:
... real world consumers require constant reminders
to buy - it's called advertising and promotion.
Everyone claims thay don't want advertising, but
if its the right kind -targeted to
their needs, they DO want it...

Funniest thing I've read yet about justifying spam.

It's not spam it it's targeted to an indiviual customer with whom you have
an existing
business relationship. Just because you want to call something spam,
doesn't make it
so.



... Do you refuse to read an ad because
you didn't "request" it?...

Yes I do.

So I guess you read the paper with blinders so you
won't accidentally see an ad you didn't request?


... Do you refuse to buy from any vendor who
advertises because you are smart enough to
look for someting you want on your own?

Yes I do.

Reasonable people appreciate contact from a seller that they have had
a good experience with.

RARE COIN AUCTIONS NO MINIMUMS http://www.frankcoins.com
Ebay Powerseller FRANKCOINS Texas Auction License 11259
Board member of Texas Coin Dealers Association, Fort Worth Coin Club.
Member: Texas Numismatic Assoc, American Numismatic Assoc.

"Frank Provasek" wrote in message
.com...
Well, Link, you are posting from Comcast, and you did make a solemn
promise
to to say hateful things about people.

Prohibited uses include, but are not limited to, using the Service,
Customer
Equipment, or the Comcast Equipment to:


(ii) post, store, send, transmit, or disseminate any information or
material
which a reasonable person could deem to be objectionable, offensive,
indecent, pornographic, harassing, threatening, embarrassing, distressing,
vulgar, hateful, racially or ethnically offensive, or otherwise
inappropriate, regardless of whether this material or its dissemination is
unlawful;


Who cares?

Rita

Deborah Stevenson; wrote in message
...
I am a collector, and I have a want list. If you send me ads without my
permission, I'll fill my needs elsewhere. When you demonstrate that
you're not interested in using my personal information responsibly, I'm
hardly going to give you my credit card number.

Deborah Stevenson
)


It's been standard in the collectibles market for many years to send notices
of acquistions that a client may be seeking. It's almost always appreciated
as
a consideration.


RARE COIN AUCTIONS NO MINIMUMS http://www.frankcoins.com
Ebay Powerseller FRANKCOINS Texas Auction License 11259
Board member of Texas Coin Dealers Association, Fort Worth Coin Club.
Member: Texas Numismatic Assoc, American Numismatic Assoc.

"a. linklurker" wrote in message
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"Helen Wallace" wrote
wrote:
C. R. Boston muttered something like:
It is not UCE (spam) if you have a prior business relationship
with someone. All anti-spam legislation provides an exemption
for existing customers. If you don't see this difference, you have
been brainwashed by ebay,

You sound like you've been brainwashed by spammers. Just because I
purchase some geegaw from Random Online Store doesn't mean I now want
to
be inundated with advertising by them, and if they start doing so I'll
be
blocking mail from their site and never purchasing anything from them
again.
Some people have limited inbox space; some people use e-mail only at
work;
some people just don't want hundreds of ads coming in every day.
Assuming that they are too stupid to know that they want to be signed
up
for an advertising list is not only arrogant on the part of the sender,
but also discourteous to their would-be customer.
-Bertha


You people seem to have no knowlege of the collectibles market.


You dumb twit: that's a major part of what I sell: collectibles!

Woe to anyone who calls Helen Wallace a dumb twit. She (with her
late husband R.E. "Bob" Wallace) has one of the biggest stamp and coin
businesses
in the U.S.

BULL**** on that. Collector's are savvy: they know how to
set searches on ebay. If one keeps their merchandise visible,
collectors will see it. All one need do is list their items.


More filthy language.

Send copies to

You are an idiot: you are doomed.

link

Wallace Stamps and Coins has been around since 1948, probably
before you were born, since you act like you are about 15.


RARE COIN AUCTIONS NO MINIMUMS http://www.frankcoins.com
Ebay Powerseller FRANKCOINS Texas Auction License 11259
Board member of Texas Coin Dealers Association, Fort Worth Coin Club.
Member: Texas Numismatic Assoc, American Numismatic Assoc.

"SgtDeath" wrote in message
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"Frank Provasek" wrote in message
.com...

I don't know about the rest of ya, but that huge sig is getting to me.

How is a 4 line sig huge?

Frank, you are completely beyond logic. There are NO customers.

That's funny, where does my merchandise go? Who keeps sending me money?


They give us a well known venue for selling our stuff.

They give it to you? Wow, I have been paying ebay $300-$500 a month. Tell
me more!

Users get in touch with other users for a one time auction.

I though ebay was doing everything possible to keep users FROM getting in
touch
with each other.

You are completely confusing the ideas of a brick and mortar
building vs. an online venue.

People NOT confusing the two
might be why several trillion dollars went down the toilet with the
dot-com bust. People thought online venues didn't have to follow the
constraints of brick-and-mortar stores. Like offering a product. Or making
a profit.

Since you pay ebay fees, YOU are ebays CUSTOMER.

Hey, first thing you have said that I agree with. But you really need to
learn
that the possessive "ebays" needs an apostrophe.

And like most places say, they can refuse service to anyone
for any reason...

A class action brought on behalf of African American customers of Denny's
Restaurants in California resulted in a $34.8 million settlement and
established a monitoring system to assure that African American customers of
Denny's nationwide receive nondiscriminatory service in the future.

It's really quite simple. We are ebay's customers... I don't see any
commercials on tv that say, "Hey come to ebay and bid on frank's coin
auctions"...

Just $50 a month for Google adwords.

Just $382.20 a year for an ad in Coin World (Classification 2 -
Announcements)

They are promoting themselves to draw more users/customers so that the
venue
will be packed.

Gee, I thought it was so that Meg Whitman's stock options would be worth
more...

Now a good way of keeping repeat customers instead of enraging those that
wish to not get your spam is to simple send an email after you send the
item.

No one is engranged except certain people in these newsgroups who never
bought from me and never received my email.

Ask that they let you know when the item arrives and offer to include
them in future notifications. Then keep they yes's on file so if you get
hit
with another spam problem you can say, "Hey they said yes"

Ah, but when ebay refuses to tell you who complained, what they complained
about, or when it was supposed to have happened, it's not possible to
contest
ebay's presumption of your guilt.

RARE COIN AUCTIONS NO MINIMUMS http://www.frankcoins.com
Ebay Powerseller FRANKCOINS Texas Auction License 11259
Board member of Texas Coin Dealers Association, Fort Worth Coin Club.
Member: Texas Numismatic Assoc, American Numismatic Assoc.