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FPN Dip**** of the Month: Gerry! (or Being a Guest in Gerry's ********!")
On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 19:16:18 -0700 (PDT), Ananias
wrote: Although FPN might keep living on...I dont think you will find any of the true fountain pen people we mostly enjoy reading posting there. It will slowly die into nothing but a kumbaya club of people chatting inks and love. Pentrace is much more enducational and much more entertaining to read for people who understand know and enjoy pens and collecting. FPN will quite possibly eventually have to change their name to Dancing Bunny Network - Where everyone can be called a back slapper. " Gerry post Jun 2 2008, 04:26 AM Group: Admin Posts: 3593 From: Ottawa, Ontario Sigh.... I guess y'all need a little help ignoring this thread.... Regards, Gerry " Of course, here we can talk about what we want, including what a dip**** Gerry is. And there's not a goddamn thing Gerry can do about that. But that's what it's like to be a guest in Gerry's ********. And, of course, Gerry would never show here, though I'd love it if he would. Regarding your other comments on FPN--of course, it is set up for a big blowup, and somebody else will start some other web forum--or pentrace will get its stuff together and get a more decent board. Actually, we've had some decent discussions here for the first time in awhile--at least I think it's been awhile. I had totally quit monitoring this newsgroup for awhile, a long while. Then I checked back after I got so disgusted with FPN But I don't think FPN will go down the tubes. I mean, in one sense, it's already down the tubes. But there will be people posting on FPN, who will continue to post, just because most FPN'ers don't even know what the usenet is and could never figure out how to get here. |
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FPN Dip**** of the Month: Gerry! (or Being a Guest in Gerry's********!")
Oh Dear Lord,
I agree with you on most....but I dont think it will go own the tubes....I just think it has gotten as close as it could get to being a good, useful and knowledge based web forum for FP's. Form here on out its just kittens, bunnies and rainbows. Funny things is that last sentence reminds me of old friends I have and how they would describe their periods of drunken stupor on weed and acid. I would rather see their bunnies and rainbows then the fantasy world most are living in on FPN. Its like they are on a full. I think what their looking for is www.secondlife.com life where they can escape from reality of others opinions and feelings not being the same as their own. Reminds me of a golf site I used to visit....bombsquadgolf.com. Thats another forum run by a complete sofa king we tadd. He went the other way and turned his into a business for profit. Forums seem to run best when they are in the middle of this spectrum. I can think of ****ty boards like somethingaweful and offtopic where they have google ads for revenue and can still admit they have an owner and run it to their like without having to be communist style dictators. I think it would be good for some of these admin/dictator types to take a peak at how popular dictators in the real world are. They are mostly hated around the entire globe...except by their local subjects. Who truly do hate them but know its in their best interest to keep their mouth shut and toe the party line. Its funny I have never had a run in or been suspended or banned from any board, fpn included. But for some reason this type of person belonging to the admin/mod group just totally flames me. Rory (cant spell it like him, but I am a typical American) is the only one to have chastised me and it was for his concern that my avatar would be upsetting to some when I put some jesus one up. People there love Jesus as much as their bunnies, and he had concern they would be offended by any such use. I removed it but told him I disagree. Using his image wasnt popular in USSR either was it? On Jun 27, 8:55*pm, The Drunken Lord wrote: On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 19:16:18 -0700 (PDT), Ananias wrote: Although FPN might keep living on...I dont think you will find any of the true fountain pen people we mostly enjoy reading posting there. It will slowly die into nothing but a kumbaya club of people chatting inks and love. Pentrace is much more enducational and much more entertaining to read for people who understand know and enjoy pens and collecting. FPN will quite possibly eventually have to change their name to Dancing Bunny Network - Where everyone can be called a back slapper. " *Gerry post Jun 2 2008, 04:26 AM Group: Admin Posts: 3593 From: Ottawa, Ontario Sigh.... I guess y'all need a little help ignoring this thread.... Regards, Gerry " Of course, here we can talk about what we want, including what a dip**** Gerry is. *And there's not a goddamn thing Gerry can do about that. But that's what it's like to be a guest in Gerry's ********. And, of course, Gerry would never show here, though I'd love it if he would. Regarding your other comments on FPN--of course, it is set up for a big blowup, and somebody else will start some other web forum--or pentrace will get its stuff together and get a more decent board. Actually, we've had some decent discussions here for the first time in awhile--at least I think it's been awhile. *I had totally quit monitoring this newsgroup for awhile, a long while. *Then I checked back after I got so disgusted with FPN But I don't think FPN will go down the tubes. *I mean, in one sense, it's already down the tubes. *But there will be people posting on FPN, who will continue to post, just because most FPN'ers don't even know what the usenet is and could never figure out how to get here. |
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FPN Dip**** of the Month: Gerry! (or Being a Guest in Gerry's ********!")
On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 21:55:07 -0700 (PDT), Ananias
wrote: Oh Dear Lord, I agree with you on most....but I dont think it will go own the tubes.... I don't either, but when you've got moderators typing out posts like that one you quoted here--it's clear things cannot continue to go on like that without there being some kind of a blowup because it's clear those folks have some control issues, some real control issues. I just think it has gotten as close as it could get to being a good, useful and knowledge based web forum for FP's. Form here on out its just kittens, bunnies and rainbows. You got a point. It's not like there are new fountain pens coming out every 3 months or any new technology and you've got to go to FPN to keep up with new developments. Once the stuff is covered, it's covered. How many posts can you write about a Parker 51? How many posts do you care to read about a Parker 51? How much are Parker 51s going for on eBay these days? Maybe I'll get one and send it to Old Griz for Old Griz to fix it up for me. He had some kind words to say about the Drunken Lord--he said these kind words on FPN the other day, and I appreciated that. Old Griz is the one who came up with the plan of drilling a hole in the rear end of Pilot Varsity pens and pouring new ink in them when they run dry. I read those posts and thought, "Old Griz must be a backdoor man." There's a simpler way to refill the Pilot Varsity's, though Old Griz's way might be better--all you do is pull the feed off, refill, and put it back on. But there's Old Griz, drilling away at the backdoor. Old Griz is a good guy though. And knowledgable. And apologies to Old Griz if he didn't come with the drilling plan for the Varsities, but I think that was Old Griz. Reminds me of a golf site I used to visit....bombsquadgolf.com. Thats another forum run by a complete sofa king we tadd. He went the other way and turned his into a business for profit. Forums seem to run best when they are in the middle of this spectrum. I can think of ****ty boards like somethingaweful and offtopic where they have google ads for revenue and can still admit they have an owner and run it to their like without having to be communist style dictators. I think it would be good for some of these admin/dictator types to take a peak at how popular dictators in the real world are. They are mostly hated around the entire globe...except by their local subjects. Who truly do hate them but know its in their best interest to keep their mouth shut and toe the party line. There are several decent commercial web forums, but generally the people who run the sites have done a lot more work--and continue to do a lot more work--than the admins on FPN do. Hell, all that site is, is some ****ing shareware hosted somewhere. Sites that rinky dink generally don't make it commercial except for nickel and dime Google ads. And ****, I know those Google ads aren't going to speed that place up. The commercial boards I've been to that are decent commercial boards, such as dpreview.com are not as slow as Christmas like FPN can often be. |
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FPN Dip**** of the Month: Gerry! (or Being a Guest in Gerry's ********!")
On 2008-06-28, The Drunken Lord wrote:
Old Griz is the one who came up with the plan of drilling a hole in the rear end of Pilot Varsity pens and pouring new ink in them when they run dry. I read those posts and thought, "Old Griz must be a backdoor man." There's a simpler way to refill the Pilot Varsity's, though Old Griz's way might be better--all you do is pull the feed off, refill, and put it back on. And apologies to Old Griz if he didn't come with the drilling plan for the Varsities, but I think that was Old Griz. I remember that post too but can't think if it was griz or not. Somebody, maybe him, was suggesting plugging the whole with a machine screw and o-ring. The whole idea seemed like guilding-the-lilly to me. I'm using my varsity pens for nib grinding practice, if I get one I like I may refill it by pulling off the section. I never liked those pens, too broad a nib for my taste, the ink seem to feather on anything. I guess they're my lamy "safari" ha ha, matthew |
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FPN Dip**** of the Month: Gerry! (or Being a Guest in Gerry's ********!")
On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 14:43:07 +0000, MatthewK
wrote: On 2008-06-28, The Drunken Lord wrote: Old Griz is the one who came up with the plan of drilling a hole in the rear end of Pilot Varsity pens and pouring new ink in them when they run dry. I read those posts and thought, "Old Griz must be a backdoor man." There's a simpler way to refill the Pilot Varsity's, though Old Griz's way might be better--all you do is pull the feed off, refill, and put it back on. And apologies to Old Griz if he didn't come with the drilling plan for the Varsities, but I think that was Old Griz. I remember that post too but can't think if it was griz or not. Somebody, maybe him, was suggesting plugging the whole with a machine screw and o-ring. The whole idea seemed like guilding-the-lilly to me. Yeah, it was kind of like the mad scientist ink mixing stuff, not as insane as the ink in the microwave though. I did pull the end cap off a pilot and look where Old Griz recommended drilling. I believe it would work, but, yeah, there is the problem of sealing the damn thing up again. And then once you seal it up with the o-ring and the machine screw, you'd play hell getting back into it to refill it again. All you gotta do is wrap a paper towel around the feed and take a pair of pliars and pull it off and you can snap it right back in. I'm using my varsity pens for nib grinding practice, if I get one I like I may refill it by pulling off the section. I never liked those pens, too broad a nib for my taste, the ink seem to feather on anything. How are you doing with your nib grinding? What are you using? There is some good advice, not so good advice on this on FPN. I like the idea of keeping the pen inked so you can test what you're doing as you do it. And one other thing I know about this--you've got to **** up a few before you start getting it right. And if the pilot varsity is too broad for you, I'd definitely recommend your trying out some of those Chinese pens. They're made just as good, if you ask me, as those high dollar pens. But then I wouldn't know for sure as I've seen very few of those pens that FPN'ers max out their credit cards on. I wonder if it gives them any pleasure knowing they're writing those checks for credit card payments with $500 pens. I guess they're my lamy "safari" ha ha, Yeah, that must have irked Deidre when that guy stained his valuable Lamy Safari with baystate blue. |
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FPN Dip**** of the Month: Gerry! (or Being a Guest in Gerry's ********!")
The Drunken Lord wrote:
Yeah, it was kind of like the mad scientist ink mixing stuff, not as insane as the ink in the microwave though. My favorite FPN thread was the mad scientist testing various inks with everything up to (and including) aircraft aluminum degreaser. I love that thread! I guess they're my lamy "safari" ha ha, Yeah, that must have irked Deidre when that guy stained his valuable Lamy Safari with baystate blue. Nah, I actually thought that was hilarious. Kind of like peep nuking [1] for pen and ink people. [1] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNPGKJn4E8Q -- _Deirdre web: http://deirdre.net blog: http://dsmoen.livejournal.com/ "Memes are a hoax! Pass it on!" |
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FPN Dip**** of the Month: Gerry! (or Being a Guest in Gerry's ********!")
On 2008-06-28, The Drunken Lord wrote:
On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 14:43:07 +0000, MatthewK wrote: I remember that post too but can't think if it was griz or not. Somebody, maybe him, was suggesting plugging the whole with a machine screw and o-ring. The whole idea seemed like guilding-the-lilly to me. Yeah, it was kind of like the mad scientist ink mixing stuff, not as insane as the ink in the microwave though. I did pull the end cap off a pilot and look where Old Griz recommended drilling. I believe it would work, but, yeah, there is the problem of sealing the damn thing up again. And then once you seal it up with the o-ring and the machine screw, you'd play hell getting back into it to refill it again. I love e.d. pens but you start adding o-rings to them then they seem less pure to me. I'd rather have one designed for it and keep a little wax on the threads. That being said, my most used e.d. has an 0-ring. All you gotta do is wrap a paper towel around the feed and take a pair of pliars and pull it off and you can snap it right back in. I think some old eyedropper fp's had to have the nib/feed removed to fill. Maybe if was the section...what ever it was they were friction fit. How are you doing with your nib grinding? What are you using? There is some good advice, not so good advice on this on FPN. I like the idea of keeping the pen inked so you can test what you're doing as you do it. And one other thing I know about this--you've got to **** up a few before you start getting it right. Pretty good I think. The directions I'm using are in "A Italic way to Beautiful Handwriting" by Fred Eager. The book was $4 dollars on the internet. These instructions seem better though: http://www.marcuslink.com/pens/nibs.html I used a ceramic spyderco (brown) hone and finished it up on a micromesh nailboard 600 grit. I did the pilot purple varsity and have ground it down to no tipping material, just messing arround. I was able to get things to look right on paper but it was still scratchy. The problem was I ground the nib as an oblique by mistake. I need to dig up a decent magnifying glass or loupe and find my finishing papers. Keeping the pen inked was definitely helpful. Speaking of grinding nibs I saw a quill pen making video on youtube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAImP41BlZU And if the pilot varsity is too broad for you, I'd definitely recommend your trying out some of those Chinese pens. They're made just as good, if you ask me, as those high dollar pens. But then I wouldn't know for sure as I've seen very few of those pens that FPN'ers max out their credit cards on. I wonder if it gives them any pleasure knowing they're writing those checks for credit card payments with $500 pens. I'm avoiding pen purchases like the plague right now but I've mostly had good experiences with chinese pens. Hero is my favorite cause I love the aerometric fillers. matthew |
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FPN Dip**** of the Month: Gerry! (or Being a Guest in Gerry's ********!")
On 2008-06-28, Deirdre Saoirse Moen wrote:
The Drunken Lord wrote: Yeah, it was kind of like the mad scientist ink mixing stuff, not as insane as the ink in the microwave though. My favorite FPN thread was the mad scientist testing various inks with everything up to (and including) aircraft aluminum degreaser. I love that thread! I guess they're my lamy "safari" ha ha, Yeah, that must have irked Deidre when that guy stained his valuable Lamy Safari with baystate blue. Nah, I actually thought that was hilarious. Kind of like peep nuking [1] for pen and ink people. [1] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNPGKJn4E8Q I don't suppose anyone else thinks of the fall of "The Screensavers" when ever peeps come up? |
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FPN Dip**** of the Month: Gerry! (or Being a Guest in Gerry's ********!")
On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 01:33:00 +0000, MatthewK
wrote: How are you doing with your nib grinding? What are you using? There is some good advice, not so good advice on this on FPN. I like the idea of keeping the pen inked so you can test what you're doing as you do it. And one other thing I know about this--you've got to **** up a few before you start getting it right. Pretty good I think. The directions I'm using are in "A Italic way to Beautiful Handwriting" by Fred Eager. The book was $4 dollars on the internet. These instructions seem better though: http://www.marcuslink.com/pens/nibs.html I read those instructions at the marcus site awhile back. I can't remember how useful I thought they were. I used a ceramic spyderco (brown) hone and finished it up on a micromesh nailboard 600 grit. Micromesh 600, as I remember, is much finer than 600 grit sandpaper. You can get very fine sandpaper at the auto parts store. I did the pilot purple varsity and have ground it down to no tipping material, just messing arround. I was able to get things to look right on paper but it was still scratchy. The problem was I ground the nib as an oblique by mistake. I need to dig up a decent magnifying glass or loupe and find my finishing papers. A 10x loupe--I'd say this is required. I've also got a 30x loupe You can get those pilots where they aren't scratchy. And you'll get better results on better nibs, but I lost my interest in nib grinding and ground only one Waterman Phileas--the nib came out fine, but it was skipping, and I got busy with other stuff and never got back to it. On the Pilots--try going for a stub and see how that works. This takes more time than what I'd have thought. I also bought a white arkansas stone. You can find flawed ones on eBay pretty cheap that are fine for nib grinding. My handwriting is just so much better with an italic nib or a stub. But I'm not gonna pay Richard Binder $150 to grind one. I'm sure he does a good job and all that. Hell, one day I might pay him to grind one. But I heard from somebody that Dillo on FPN does a good job too, and a lot cheaper. Too bad Nathan doesn't still do work on pens. He might have kept the pens he worked on for awhile--one time he kept somebody's pen for a year--but nobody complains with the results, including the guy who's pen he worked on for a year. And then there's Old Griz. I'm sure Old Griz could grind a nib, but after the way he talked about me on FPN the other day, I'd probably send mine to somebody else. But anybody else might be fine with Old Griz. I wonder how much Old Griz would charge to grind and refill six Pilots, with his drilling through the rear end process. I'm avoiding pen purchases like the plague right now but I've mostly had good experiences with chinese pens. Hero is my favorite cause I love the aerometric fillers. Thanks for the video links and I'll look at them later, on another computer. I'm running so much protection here I can't get a video to load right now. |
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