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Old August 17th 03, 02:43 PM
JSTONE9352
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I would guess that it would be close between the 1909-S VDB Lincoln cent and
the 1916-D Mercury dime. Others high on the list would probably include the
1914-D and 1922 Plain Lincoln cent. A fair amount of fake 1913 Liberty nickels
too of course.

I don't hear a lot about fake 1916 Standing liberty quarters. Is it because
the
series itself is not that popular? I'm sure there are fakes of these of
course.
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Old August 17th 03, 03:16 PM
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In article , JSTONE9352
spoke thusly...
I would guess that it would be close between the 1909-S VDB Lincoln cent and
the 1916-D Mercury dime. Others high on the list would probably include the
1914-D and 1922 Plain Lincoln cent. A fair amount of fake 1913 Liberty nickels
too of course.

I don't hear a lot about fake 1916 Standing liberty quarters. Is it because
the
series itself is not that popular?


I wonder if it is because it is a one year type with no branch mint
issues. That means no no mint mark to remove and it would probably
would make altered dates more difficult (or at least easier to
detect).


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Old August 17th 03, 03:32 PM
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"JSTONE9352" wrote in message
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I would guess that it would be close between the 1909-S VDB Lincoln cent

and
the 1916-D Mercury dime. Others high on the list would probably include

the
1914-D and 1922 Plain Lincoln cent. A fair amount of fake 1913 Liberty

nickels
too of course.


I encounter far more contemporary counterfeit Barber halves than anything
else.

Steve


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Old August 17th 03, 03:34 PM
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J Stone writes:

I would guess that it would be close between the 1909-S VDB Lincoln cent and
the 1916-D Mercury dime. Others high on the list would probably include the
1914-D and 1922 Plain Lincoln cent. A fair amount of fake 1913 Liberty nickels
too of course.

I don't hear a lot about fake 1916 Standing liberty quarters. Is it because
the
series itself is not that popular? I'm sure there are fakes of these of
course.



The 1916 SLQ an 1916 SLQ, although both depicting bare breasted Miss Liberty,
have different figures of Liberty, design of head and drapery on the figure, so
altered dates would not be feasible.

The series is quite popular actually.



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Old August 17th 03, 04:27 PM
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CORRECTON:

I meant to say ;

"The 1916 SLQ and 1917 type 1 SLQ,"


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Old August 17th 03, 05:15 PM
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"JSTONE9352" wrote in message
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I would guess that it would be close between the 1909-S VDB Lincoln cent

and
the 1916-D Mercury dime. Others high on the list would probably include

the
1914-D and 1922 Plain Lincoln cent. A fair amount of fake 1913 Liberty

nickels
too of course.

I don't hear a lot about fake 1916 Standing liberty quarters. Is it

because
the
series itself is not that popular? I'm sure there are fakes of these of
course.


I would have thought 1922 plain cent, 1916 SLQ etc, but then with the recent
sale of the 1933 $20 now I wonder that it takes the lead.

Dave


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Old August 17th 03, 07:56 PM
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From: jstone9352
Most faked US coin of the 20th century


If I may assume that "most" means a greater number of counterfeit specimens
made, I'd have to go with the official reports from the Secret Service, which
seems to have to be one of the following two:
1) Eagle-Back Quarters, as counterfeited by a New England couple; they got
caught in 1999 when they began passing their 1999's - they continued the
Eagle-Backs although by then the Mint was striking State Quarters.
2) The counterfeit 1943 Cents made of lead, made in the 1950's; in just one
raid in particular, in Des Moines Iowa in 1959, they seized approximately
$100.oo in these. There had been many more. I once owned one of these, but it
got destroyed. I still want one, for nostalgia's sake. It was my first
"collectible" coin.

Or was the question posed as a "total value of the known specimens, were they
real"?

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Old August 17th 03, 10:32 PM
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I have to agree with this account. At my local coin club meeting (West
Jersey Coin Society) last time, we had a visit from the Secret Service to
talk about the new money and counterfeits(they brought in alot of different
types of counterfiet currency and a real example of the new $20 series...it
is a beautiful note...I got to touch it!)

In the discussion, they brought up counterfiet coins and the guy who did
that counterfieting of the nickels lived in my area. It is also said that
he dumped bags and bags of these counterfieit nickels into the well known
Cooper River (which was right up the street)to escape getting caught with
them. The secret service said that no one that they knew of had ever went
in search of these bags of nickels in the river. Also, The secret service
agents do not believe that every example had been confiscated.

Go Figure...

Fred
"gonna start a treasure hunt"


"Michael Benveniste" wrote in message
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On 17 Aug 2003 13:43:30 GMT, (JSTONE9352) wrote:

I would guess that it would be close between the 1909-S VDB Lincoln cent

and
the 1916-D Mercury dime. Others high on the list would probably include

the
1914-D and 1922 Plain Lincoln cent. A fair amount of fake 1913 Liberty

nickels
too of course.


It's estimated that Francis Leroy Henning ran offsomething like
400,000 fake nickels, the majority of which were dated 1944. That has
my vote.

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address only to submit mail for evaluation.



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Old August 17th 03, 10:44 PM
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By the way...it was actually someone in my coin club that figured out they
were counterfiet and reported it to the authorities. HOW?

The Counterfieter used a 1944 war nickel as his model and NEVER placed the
mint mark over the dome of Monticello!!!!! (que ftecaw) DUMBASS!!

LOL!!

fred
"smarter than the average counterfieter"



"Fred" wrote in message
...
I have to agree with this account. At my local coin club meeting (West
Jersey Coin Society) last time, we had a visit from the Secret Service to
talk about the new money and counterfeits(they brought in alot of

different
types of counterfiet currency and a real example of the new $20

series...it
is a beautiful note...I got to touch it!)

In the discussion, they brought up counterfiet coins and the guy who did
that counterfieting of the nickels lived in my area. It is also said that
he dumped bags and bags of these counterfieit nickels into the well known
Cooper River (which was right up the street)to escape getting caught with
them. The secret service said that no one that they knew of had ever went
in search of these bags of nickels in the river. Also, The secret service
agents do not believe that every example had been confiscated.

Go Figure...

Fred
"gonna start a treasure hunt"


"Michael Benveniste" wrote in message
...
On 17 Aug 2003 13:43:30 GMT, (JSTONE9352) wrote:

I would guess that it would be close between the 1909-S VDB Lincoln

cent
and
the 1916-D Mercury dime. Others high on the list would probably

include
the
1914-D and 1922 Plain Lincoln cent. A fair amount of fake 1913 Liberty

nickels
too of course.


It's estimated that Francis Leroy Henning ran offsomething like
400,000 fake nickels, the majority of which were dated 1944. That has
my vote.

--
Michael Benveniste --

Spam and UCE professionally evaluated for $250. Use this email
address only to submit mail for evaluation.





 




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