False Istrian overprints

I have just received an Ebay lot of stamps of the
Yugoslav Occupation of Istria which on close examination
are all clearly fakes.

Not only are most postmarked almost five years before they
were issued, but the overprints themselves give grave cause for doubt.

One had a denomination which does not exist on the issued stamps,
and another had the overprint upright when all genuine examples
had it sideways! Some from the later set that were overprinted
a second time show that the two had somehow merged together!

I was quite happy to retain the stamps as they cost only a few pounds
and they are useful as a reference collection.

A few examples can be found at

http://www.italianstamps.co.uk/trieste/istr/index.html

Enjoy!

P.S. Do you think I should mark them all FALSE?


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Hi Tony,

if you are 100% sure it is fake I would mark them 'false'. In
addition I would sign with your initials. I have done this with some
stamps that I know for sure are fakes. This way another collector,
maybe not as knowledgeable, would know what he has and if selling
would price or buy accordingly.

Like you I buy fakes for reference. In some instances what used to be
considered fake issues have now been verified that they were really
issued. If there is a marking I leave it.

Jerry B

jerry wrote:
Hi Tony,

if you are 100% sure it is fake I would mark them 'false'. In
addition I would sign with your initials. I have done this with some
stamps that I know for sure are fakes. This way another collector,
maybe not as knowledgeable, would know what he has and if selling
would price or buy accordingly.

Like you I buy fakes for reference. In some instances what used to be
considered fake issues have now been verified that they were really
issued. If there is a marking I leave it.


Thank-you. In this case there is no doubt on the matter as the original
overprints were typographed
and the fakes I have were clearly photocopied - the fine streaks at the edge
of the
letters under high magnification show this.

--
Tony Clayton

On Nov 2, 7:10*pm, Tony Clayton wrote:
I have just received an Ebay lot of stamps of the
Yugoslav Occupation of Istria which on close examination
are all clearly fakes. *

Not only are most postmarked almost five years before they
were issued, but the overprints themselves give grave cause for doubt.

One had a denomination which does not exist on the issued stamps,
and another had the overprint upright when all genuine examples
had it sideways! *Some from the later set that were overprinted
a second time show that the two had somehow merged together!

I was quite happy to retain the stamps as they cost only a few pounds
and they are useful as a reference collection. *

A few examples can be found at

http://www.italianstamps.co.uk/trieste/istr/index.html

Enjoy!

P.S. Do you think I should mark them all FALSE?

--
Tony Clayton * * * * *
Coins of the UK * * *:http://www.coins-of-the-uk.co.uk
Sent using RISCOS using VirtualAcorn-SA running on a PC
... Children: Pure love contained in soft packages.

Interesting. I was waiting for the next error, where these
very capable stamp printersw overprinted the stamps as
AUSTRIA and not ISTRIA .

lol

In a recent message "Blair (TC)" wrote:

On Nov 2, 7:10*pm, Tony Clayton wrote:
I have just received an Ebay lot of stamps of the
Yugoslav Occupation of Istria which on close examination
are all clearly fakes. *

Not only are most postmarked almost five years before they
were issued, but the overprints themselves give grave cause for doubt.

One had a denomination which does not exist on the issued stamps,
and another had the overprint upright when all genuine examples
had it sideways! *Some from the later set that were overprinted
a second time show that the two had somehow merged together!

I was quite happy to retain the stamps as they cost only a few pounds
and they are useful as a reference collection. *

A few examples can be found at

http://www.italianstamps.co.uk/trieste/istr/index.html

Enjoy!

P.S. Do you think I should mark them all FALSE?

--
Tony Clayton * * * * *
Coins of the UK * * *:http://www.coins-of-the-uk.co.uk
Sent using RISCOS using VirtualAcorn-SA running on a PC
... Children: Pure love contained in soft packages.

Interesting. I was waiting for the next error, where these
very capable stamp printersw overprinted the stamps as
AUSTRIA and not ISTRIA .

lol

Indeed! If they had put ISTRIA instead of ISTRA that would
have been as much of a giveaway as using the wrong value!

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Tony Clayton
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Good evening

I find this an interesting topic. I live in place, which was part of
that territory.

If you are serious to deal with the topic I suggest that you buy a
book Damir Novaković Stamps and Postal History of Trieste, Pola,
Fiume, Istria and Slovene Littoral under Yugoslav Military
Administration. 1945 - 1947. At almost 900 pages you will find the
postal history of 3 years of a relatively small area.

Greetings Mitja

On Nov 3, 12:10Â*am, Tony Clayton wrote:
I have just received an Ebay lot of stamps of the
Yugoslav Occupation of Istria which on close examination
are all clearly fakes. Â*

Not only are most postmarked almost five years before they
were issued, but the overprints themselves give grave cause for doubt.

One had a denomination which does not exist on the issued stamps,
and another had the overprint upright when all genuine examples
had it sideways! Â*Some from the later set that were overprinted
a second time show that the two had somehow merged together!

I was quite happy to retain the stamps as they cost only a few pounds
and they are useful as a reference collection. Â*

A few examples can be found at

http://www.italianstamps.co.uk/trieste/istr/index.html

Enjoy!

P.S. Do you think I should mark them all FALSE?

--
Tony Clayton Â* Â* Â* Â* Â*
Coins of the UK Â* Â* Â*:http://www.coins-of-the-uk.co.uk
Sent using RISCOS using VirtualAcorn-SA running on a PC
... Children: Pure love contained in soft packages.

In a recent message MJancar wrote:

Good evening

I find this an interesting topic. I live in place, which was part of
that territory.

If you are serious to deal with the topic I suggest that you buy a
book Damir Novakovi=C4=87 Stamps and Postal History of Trieste, Pola,
Fiume, Istria and Slovene Littoral under Yugoslav Military
Administration. 1945 - 1947. At almost 900 pages you will find the
postal history of 3 years of a relatively small area.

Greetings Mitja

Most interesting, Mitja. Do you know where this can be obtained from?




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In a recent message Tony Clayton wrote:

In a recent message MJancar wrote:

Good evening

I find this an interesting topic. I live in place, which was part of
that territory.

If you are serious to deal with the topic I suggest that you buy a
book Damir Novakovi=C4=87 Stamps and Postal History of Trieste, Pola,
Fiume, Istria and Slovene Littoral under Yugoslav Military
Administration. 1945 - 1947. At almost 900 pages you will find the
postal history of 3 years of a relatively small area.

Greetings Mitja

Most interesting, Mitja. Do you know where this can be obtained from?

Just spotted it on Amazon.






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The book is distributed by

http://www.ormedec.com/books/09-stam...a-and-slovene/



On Nov 3, 11:51*pm, Tony Clayton wrote:
In a recent message Tony Clayton wrote:





In a recent message MJancar wrote:

Good evening

I find this an interesting topic. I live in place, which was part of
that territory.

If you are serious to deal with the topic I suggest that you buy a
book Damir Novakovi=C4=87 Stamps and Postal History of Trieste, Pola,
Fiume, Istria and Slovene Littoral under Yugoslav Military
Administration. 1945 - 1947. At almost 900 pages you will find the
postal history of 3 years of a relatively small area.

Greetings Mitja * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

Most interesting, Mitja. *Do you know where this can be obtained from?

Just spotted it on Amazon.



--
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MJancar wrote:
Good evening

I find this an interesting topic. I live in place, which was part of
that territory.

If you are serious to deal with the topic I suggest that you buy a
book Damir Novaković Stamps and Postal History of Trieste, Pola,
Fiume, Istria and Slovene Littoral under Yugoslav Military
Administration. 1945 - 1947. At almost 900 pages you will find the
postal history of 3 years of a relatively small area.

Greetings Mitja

My copy arrived on Saturday. It is an astonishing book covering the subject
in incredible detail with colour illustrations of the highest quality.

And it is in English too (Italian I might slowly cope with, but
Slovenian would have been beyond me)

Mind you, it was not at all cheap, but I guess it will not have had a large
print run.

I now just want a similar book on Trieste Zones A and B!

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Tony Clayton