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Old August 26th 11, 08:56 AM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
Tony Clayton[_2_]
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Sir F. A. Rien wrote:
"Pedro" found these unused words:

hello all,
I'm trying to get a decent digital image of a watermark with my
scanner. My method is still not perfect although I manage to see the
watermark but not very clear. I'd appreciate very much if anyone
could help me or provide directions in achieving this goal in a
better way.

Thanks,
pedro


IF your scanner will scan photographic negatives, place the stamp
face UP and make the scan. You'll have to severely manipulate the
contrast and black/white capture points while scanning, but for many
watermarks this will work.

Note, it will be 'reversed' so additional work in your graphics
editor will be needed.


As we always look at watermarks from the back of the stamp I am puzzled
as to why some catalogues show watermarks as seen from the front.

At least the Italian catalogues show what is seen from the back.

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Old September 1st 11, 06:53 PM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
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Tony,


for those who had watermarks in there important papers the front was the
only place to look at! From there you should see the brand of the paper
maker or any other important message.

We are the crazy people that look at tiny pieces of paper that may still
have a watermark although there was hardly any real need for it since the
introduction of the modern, photographical printing methods in the period
after World War I. Since 1920 a watermark is an anachronical feature for
postage stamps of which the only real use was to lure stamp collectors in
buying yet another set of definitives with yet another version of the
Crown Agents watermark.... Have a new set for every colony every now and
then was pretty healthy business!!!!


Op Fri, 26 Aug 2011 09:56:37 +0200 schreef Tony Clayton
:

Sir F. A. Rien wrote:
"Pedro" found these unused words:

hello all,
I'm trying to get a decent digital image of a watermark with my
scanner. My method is still not perfect although I manage to see the
watermark but not very clear. I'd appreciate very much if anyone
could help me or provide directions in achieving this goal in a
better way. Thanks,
pedro

IF your scanner will scan photographic negatives, place the stamp
face UP and make the scan. You'll have to severely manipulate the
contrast and black/white capture points while scanning, but for many
watermarks this will work.
Note, it will be 'reversed' so additional work in your graphics
editor will be needed.


As we always look at watermarks from the back of the stamp I am puzzled
as to why some catalogues show watermarks as seen from the front.

At least the Italian catalogues show what is seen from the back.



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Old September 1st 11, 11:18 PM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
Tony Clayton[_2_]
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Default scanning watermarks

Sir F. A. Rien wrote:
"Tony Clayton" found these unused words:

As we always look at watermarks from the back of the stamp I am
puzzled as to why some catalogues show watermarks as seen from the
front.

At least the Italian catalogues show what is seen from the back.


Relatively simple, watermarks are made to be 'read' from the -=face=-
of the working area. Look at any good bond watermarked paper. The
finely calendared surface is the one where you can hold the paper up
and rea the watermark as 'normal'.


I would observe that we are stamp collectors where looking at the back is
easier,
whereas collectors of bond watermarked paper (are there any? ;-) ) will look
at the front.

Therefore catalogue images as seen by stamp collectors makes more sense for
stamp catalogues!

Sheet markings, "POSTAGE" etc. are 'normal' when viewed from the side
meant for printing.

I have rarely seen catalogues detail sheet margin markings (Italian
catalogues excepted!)

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Old September 2nd 11, 05:47 PM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
Billns
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On 9/2/2011 9:08 AM, Sir F. A. Rien wrote:


Depends upon the 'level' of the catalogue. Simple basic Scutt type won't as
they don't even cover all the isses properly.

I've never heard of the Scutt catalog that you often refer to.

Bill
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Old September 3rd 11, 06:12 PM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
Billns
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On 9/3/2011 8:01 AM, Sir F. A. Rien wrote:
found these unused words:

On 9/2/2011 9:08 AM, Sir F. A. Rien wrote:


Depends upon the 'level' of the catalogue. Simple basic Scutt type won't as
they don't even cover all the isses properly.

I've never heard of the Scutt catalog that you often refer to.

It's the overpriced, multiple volume US published 'catalogue' that omits
many acutal issues or only partly covers many others.

Such information, as to perfs [for example] are often lumped together and
the user is left to try and figure out if each value of a set comes with
one, some or all.

Pricing is so far removed from actual retail or auction that it's like the
LIST price on the TV infomercials, where it's "a $77 'value', but wait, just
pay additional prcessig and we'll send you TWO for just $19.95 !!!"


You can trash that catalog if you like but at least spell the name
correctly!

If you're willing to do that, I'll go back to calling it a "catalogue."

Bill
 




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