Congress mandates use of "In God We Trust"

"Brian O" wrote in message
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Obviously you've done a cut and past from a website. In that case, Ill
refer you to any good apologetic work in a Christian bookstore. You will
find the answers there.
Something you need to keep in mind, a contradiction is something that
would
strictly rule out one statement or event over another. Many of the
statements you post are not contradictory by definition. Again, these are
accounts written down by different people, all written from different
perspectives.

But these are God's words I thought? Now it actually is the words of men?

Things may appear different from one perspective as opposed
from another perspective, but both accounts are correct from their given
perspective. Something else you have to consider, is that if all the
accounts matched exactly, that would go to lend itself to being a
contrived
document.

Or the moral of the story is what matters and not little details about which
day the Sun was created and how there was light even without a Sun which
violates the laws of the universe that God created.

"Brian O" wrote in message
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Actually if you reverse extrapolate the population growth, accounting for
wars and natural disasters, I think you will find the numbers seem to come
to about 0 within about a 4 thousand yr time frame. I didn't do this
research, but I did find it interesting.
B



If I extrapolate the weight loss I have achieved over the past couple of
years, I should disappear completely somewhere around 2012 (but don't hold
your breath).

Brian, you *cannot* extrapolate in the fashion you (or I) described. If you
had a background in scientific training, you'd realise that.

As it is, I guess you'll have to take it on faith.
You're good at that, yes?

--
Jeff R.
(don't hit "send"; don't hit "send"; don't hit "send")
DAMMIT!

I bought The God Delusion today, I suggest you do likewise.

The book shop had it on a BOGOF so I chose Victoria Cross Heroes as my
second choice, the author has a collection of 145 Victoria Crosses, wow, and
this book is the story of the winners, this thread is back On Topic! Billy


"Brian O" wrote in message
...
Obviously you've done a cut and past from a website. In that case, Ill
refer you to any good apologetic work in a Christian bookstore. You will
find the answers there.
Something you need to keep in mind, a contradiction is something that
would
strictly rule out one statement or event over another. Many of the
statements you post are not contradictory by definition. Again, these are
accounts written down by different people, all written from different
perspectives. Things may appear different from one perspective as opposed
from another perspective, but both accounts are correct from their given
perspective. Something else you have to consider, is that if all the
accounts matched exactly, that would go to lend itself to being a
contrived
document.
I can suggest going to the bookstore, or even to the library if you don't
want to spend the money.
B

"GNH" wrote in message
news

"Brian O" wrote ..And the Bible has still never
been proven to be wrong, in all these years of
scientific endeavor to do so.,,

My friend, you are mislead. The Bible ITSELF prove itself wrong...is
full
of lies and contradictions.....

1. Who incited David to count the fighting men of Israel?

a.. God did (2 Samuel 24: 1)
b.. Satan did (I Chronicles 2 1:1)
2. In that count how many fighting men were found in Israel?

a.. Eight hundred thousand (2 Samuel 24:9)
b.. One million, one hundred thousand (I Chronicles 21:5)
3. How many fighting men were found in Judah?

a.. Five hundred thousand (2 Samuel 24:9)
b.. Four hundred and seventy thousand (I Chronicles 21:5)
4. God sent his prophet to threaten David with how many years of famine?

a.. Seven (2 Samuel 24:13)
b.. Three (I Chronicles 21:12)
5. How old was Ahaziah when he began to rule over Jerusalem?

a.. Twenty-two (2 Kings 8:26)
b.. Forty-two (2 Chronicles 22:2)
6. How old was Jehoiachin when he became king of Jerusalem?

a.. Eighteen (2 Kings 24:8)
b.. Eight (2 Chronicles 36:9)
7. How long did he rule over Jerusalem?

a.. Three months (2 Kings 24:8)
b.. Three months and ten days (2 Chronicles 36:9)
8. The chief of the mighty men of David lifted up his spear and killed
how
many men at one time?

a.. Eight hundred (2 Samuel 23:8)
b.. Three hundred (I Chronicles 11: 11)
9. When did David bring the Ark of the Covenant to Jerusalem? Before
defeating the Philistines or after?

a.. After (2 Samuel 5 and 6)
b.. Before (I Chronicles 13 and 14)
10. How many pairs of clean animals did God tell Noah to take into the
Ark?

a.. Two (Genesis 6:19, 20)
b.. Seven (Genesis 7:2). But despite this last instruction only two
pairs
went into the ark (Genesis 7:8-9)
11. When David defeated the King of Zobah, how many horsemen did he
capture?

a.. One thousand and seven hundred (2 Samuel 8:4)
b.. Seven thousand (I Chronicles 18:4)
12. How many stalls for horses did Solomon have?

a.. Forty thousand (I Kings 4:26)
b.. Four thousand (2 chronicles 9:25)
13. In what year of King Asa's reign did Baasha, King of Israel die?

a.. Twenty-sixth year (I Kings 15:33 - 16:8)
b.. Still alive in the thirty-sixth year (2 Chronicles 16:1)
14. How many overseers did Solomon appoint for the work of building the
temple?

a.. Three thousand six hundred (2 Chronicles 2:2)
b.. Three thousand three hundred (I Kings 5:16)
15. Solomon built a facility containing how many baths?

a.. Two thousand (1 Kings 7:26)
b.. Over three thousand (2 Chronicles 4:5)
16. Of the Israelites who were freed from the Babylonian captivity, how
many
were the children of Pahrath-Moab?

a.. Two thousand eight hundred and twelve (Ezra 2:6)
b.. Two thousand eight hundred and eighteen (Nehemiah 7:11)
17. How many were the children of Zattu?

a.. Nine hundred and forty-five (Ezra 2:8)
b.. Eight hundred and forty-five (Nehemiah 7:13)
18. How many were the children of Azgad?

a.. One thousand two hundred and twenty-two (Ezra 2:12)
b.. Two thousand three hundred and twenty-two (Nehemiah 7:17)
19. How many were the children of Adin?

a.. Four hundred and fifty-four (Ezra 2:15)
b.. Six hundred and fifty-five (Nehemiah 7:20)
20. How many were the children of Hashum?

a.. Two hundred and twenty-three (Ezra 2:19)
b.. Three hundred and twenty-eight (Nehemiah 7:22)
21. How many were the children of Bethel and Ai?

a.. Two hundred and twenty-three (Ezra 2:28)
b.. One hundred and twenty-three (Nehemiah 7:32)
22. Ezra 2:64 and Nehemiah 7:66 agree that the total number of the whole
assembly was 42,360. Yet the numbers do not add up to anything close. The
totals obtained from each book is as follows:

a.. 29,818 (Ezra)
b.. 31,089 (Nehemiah)
23. How many singers accompanied the assembly?

a.. Two hundred (Ezra 2:65)
b.. Two hundred and forty-five (Nehemiah 7:67)
24. What was the name of King Abijahs mother?

a.. Michaiah, daughter of Uriel of Gibeah (2 Chronicles 13:2)
b.. Maachah, daughter of Absalom (2 Chronicles 11:20) But Absalom had
only
one daughter whose name was Tamar (2 Samuel 14:27)
25. Did Joshua and the Israelites capture Jerusalem?

a.. Yes (Joshua 10:23, 40)
b.. No (Joshua 15:63)
26. Who was the father of Joseph, husband of Mary?

a.. Jacob (Matthew 1:16)
b.. Hell (Luke 3:23)
27. Jesus descended from which son of David?

a.. Solomon (Matthew 1:6)
b.. Nathan(Luke3:31)
28. Who was the father of Shealtiel?

a.. Jechoniah (Matthew 1:12)
b.. Neri (Luke 3:27)
29. Which son of Zerubbabel was an ancestor of Jesus Christ?

a.. Abiud (Matthew 1: 13)
b.. Rhesa (Luke 3:27) But the seven sons of Zerubbabel are as follows:
i.Meshullam, ii. Hananiah, iii. Hashubah, iv. Ohel, v.Berechiah, vi.
Hasadiah, viii. Jushabhesed (I Chronicles 3:19, 20). The names Abiud and
Rhesa do not fit in anyway.
30. Who was the father of Uzziah?

a.. Joram (Matthew 1:8)
b.. Amaziah (2 Chronicles 26:1)
31. Who was the father of Jechoniah?

a.. Josiah (Matthew 1:11)
b.. Jeholakim (I Chronicles 3:16)
32. How many generations were there from the Babylonian exile until
Christ?

a.. Matthew says fourteen (Matthew 1:17)
b.. But a careful count of the generations reveals only thirteen (see
Matthew 1: 12-16)
33. Who was the father of Shelah?

a.. Cainan (Luke 3:35-36)
b.. Arphaxad (Genesis II: 12)
34. Was John the Baptist Elijah who was to come?

a.. Yes (Matthew II: 14, 17:10-13)
b.. No (John 1:19-21)
35. Would Jesus inherit Davids throne?

a.. Yes. So said the angel (Luke 1:32)
b.. No, since he is a descendant of Jehoiakim (see Matthew 1: I 1, I
Chronicles 3:16). And Jehoiakim was cursed by God so that none of his
descendants can sit upon Davids throne (Jeremiah 36:30)
36. Jesus rode into Jerusalem on how many animals?

a.. One - a colt (Mark 11:7; cf Luke 19:3 5). And they brought the colt
to
Jesus and threw their garments on it; and he sat upon it.
b.. Two - a colt and an ass (Matthew 21:7). They brought the ass and
the
colt and put their garments on them and he sat thereon.
37. How did Simon Peter find out that Jesus was the Christ?

a.. By a revelation from heaven (Matthew 16:17)
b.. His brother Andrew told him (John 1:41)
38. Where did Jesus first meet Simon Peter and Andrew?

a.. By the sea of Galilee (Matthew 4:18-22)
b.. On the banks of river Jordan (John 1:42). After that, Jesus decided
to
go to Galilee (John 1:43)
39. When Jesus met Jairus was Jairus daughter already dead?

a.. Yes. Matthew 9:18 quotes him as saying, My daughter has just died.
b.. No. Mark 5:23 quotes him as saying, My little daughter is at the
point
of death.
40. Did Jesus allow his disciples to keep a staff on their journey?

a.. Yes (Mark 6:8)
b.. No (Matthew 10:9; Luke 9:3)
41. Did Herod think that Jesus was John the Baptist?

a.. Yes (Matthew 14:2; Mark 6:16)
b.. No (Luke 9:9)
42. Did John the Baptist recognize Jesus before his baptism?

a.. Yes (Matthew 3:13-14)
b.. No (John 1:32,33)
43. Did John the Baptist recognize Jesus after his baptism?

a.. Yes (John 1:32, 33)
b.. No (Matthew 11:2)
44. According to the Gospel of John, what did Jesus say about bearing his
own witness?

a.. If I bear witness to myself, my testimony is not true (John 5:3 1)
b.. Even if I do bear witness to myself, my testimony is true (John
8:14)
45. When Jesus entered Jerusalem did he cleanse the temple that same day?

a.. Yes (Matthew 21:12)
b.. No. He went into the temple and looked around, but since it was
very
late he did nothing. Instead, he went to Bethany to spend the night and
returned the next morning to cleanse the temple (Mark I 1:1- 17)
46. The Gospels say that Jesus cursed a fig tree. Did the tree wither at
once?

a.. Yes. (Matthew 21:19)
b.. No. It withered overnight (Mark II: 20)
47. Did Judas kiss Jesus?

a.. Yes (Matthew 26:48-50)
b.. No. Judas could not get close enough to Jesus to kiss him (John
18:3-12)
48. What did Jesus say about Peters denial?

a.. The cock will not crow till you have denied me three times (John
13:38)
b.. Before the cock crows twice you will deny me three times (Mark
14:30)
. When the cock crowed once, the three denials were not yet complete (see
Mark 14:72). Therefore prediction (a) failed.
49. Did Jesus bear his own cross?

a.. Yes (John 19:17)
b.. No (Matthew 27:31-32)
50. Did Jesus die before the curtain of the temple was torn?

a.. Yes (Matthew 27:50-51; Mark lS:37-38)
b.. No. After the curtain was torn, then Jesus crying with a loud
voice,
said, Father, into thy hands I commit my spirit! And having said this he
breathed his last (Luke 23:45-46)
51. Did Jesus say anything secretly?

a.. No. I have said nothing secretly (John 18:20)
b.. Yes. He did not speak to them without a parable, but privately to
his
own disciples he explained everything (Mark 4:34). The disciples asked
him
Why do you speak to them in parables? He said, To you it has been given
to
know the secrets of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it has not been
given
(Matthew 13: 1 0-11)
52. Where was Jesus at the sixth hour on the day of the crucifixion?

a.. On the cross (Mark 15:23)
b.. In Pilates court (John 19:14)
53. The gospels say that two thieves were crucified along with Jesus. Did
both thieves mock Jesus?

a.. Yes (Mark 15:32)
b.. No. One of them mocked Jesus, the other defended Jesus (Luke 23:43)
54. Did Jesus ascend to Paradise the same day of the crucifixion?

a.. Yes. He said to the thief who defended him, Today you will be with
me
in Paradise (Luke 23:43)
b.. No. He said to Mary Magdelene two days later, I have not yet
ascended
to the Father (John 20:17)
55. When Paul was on the road to Damascus he saw a light and heard a
voice.
Did those who were with him hear the voice?

a.. Yes (Acts9:7)
b.. No (Acts22:9)
56. When Paul saw the light he fell to the ground. Did his traveling
companions also fall to the ground?

a.. Yes (Acts 26:14)
b.. No (Acts 9:7)
57. Did the voice spell out on the spot what Pauls duties were to be?

a.. Yes (Acts 26:16-18)
b.. No. The voice commanded Paul to go into the city of Damascus and
there
he will be told what he must do. (Acts9:7;22: 10)
58. When the Israelites dwelt in ****tin they committed adultery with the
daughters of Moab. God struck them with a plague. How many people died in
that plague?

a.. Twenty-four thousand (Numbers 25:1 and 9)
b.. Twenty-three thousand (I Corinthians 10:8)
59. How many members of the house of Jacob came to Egypt?

a.. Seventy souls (Genesis 4 & 27)
b.. Seventy-five souls (Acts 7:14)
60. What did Judas do with the blood money he received for betraying
Jesus?

a.. He bought a field (Acts 1: 18)
b.. He threw all of it into the temple and went away. The priests could
not put the blood money into the temple treasury, so they used it to buy
a
field to bury strangers (Matthew 27:5)
61. How did Judas die?

a.. After he threw the money into the temple he went away and hanged
himself (Matthew 27:5)
b.. After he bought the field with the price of his evil deed he fell
headlong and burst open in the middle and all his bowels gushed out (Acts
1:18)
62. Why is the field called Field of Blood?

a.. Because the priests bought it with the blood money (Matthew 27:8)
b.. Because of the bloody death of Judas therein (Acts 1:19)
63. Who is a ransom for whom?

a.. The Son of Man came...to give his life as a ransom for many (Mark
10:45). Christ Jesus who gave himself as a ransom for all... (I Timothy
2:5-6)
b.. The wicked is a ransom for the righteous, and the faithless for
the
upright (Proverbs 21:18)
64. Is the law of Moses useful?

a.. Yes. All scripture is... profitable... (2 Timothy 3:16)
b.. No. . . . A former commandment is set aside because of its weakness
and uselessness... (Hebrews 7:18)
65. What was the exact wording on the cross?

a.. This is Jesus the King of the Jews (Matthew 27:37)
b.. The King of the Jews (Mark 15:26)
c.. This is the King of the Jews (Luke 23:38)
d.. Jesus of Nazareth, the King of the Jews (John 19:19)
66. Did Herod want to kill John the Baptist?

a.. Yes (Matthew 14:5)
b.. No. It was Herodias, the wife of Herod who wanted to kill him. But
Herod knew that he was a righteous man and kept him safe (Mark 6:20)
67. Who was the tenth disciple of Jesus in the list of twelve?

a.. Thaddaeus (Matthew 10: 1-4; Mark 3:13 -19)
b.. Judas son of James is the corresponding name in Lukes gospel (Luke
6:12-16)
68. Jesus saw a man sitat the tax collectors office and called him to be
his
disciple. What was his name?

a.. Matthew (Matthew 9:9)
b.. Levi (Mark 2:14; Luke 5:27)
69. Was Jesus crucified on the daytime before the Passover meal or the
daytime after?

a.. After (Mark 14:12-17)
b.. Before. Before the feast of the Passover (John 1) Judas went out at
night (John 13:30). The other disciples thought he was going out to buy
supplies to prepare for the Passover meal (John 13:29). When Jesus was
arrested, the Jews did not enter Pilates judgment hail because they
wanted
to stay clean to eat the Passover (John 18:28). When the judgment was
pronounced against Jesus, it was about the sixth hour on the day of
Preparation for the Passover (John 19:14)
70. Did Jesus pray to The Father to prevent the crucifixion?

a.. Yes. (Matthew 26:39; Mark 14:36; Luke 22:42)
b.. No. (John 12:27)
71. In the gospels which say that Jesus prayed to avoid the cross, how
many
times did he move away from his disciples to pray?

a.. Three (Matthew 26:36-46 and Mark 14:32-42)
b.. One. No opening is left for another two times. (Luke 22:39-46)
72. Matthew and Mark agree that Jesus went away and prayed three times.
What
were the words of the second prayer?

a.. Mark does not give the words but he says that the words were the
same
as the first prayer (Mark 14:3 9)
b.. Matthew gives us the words, and we can see that they are not the
same
as in the first (Matthew 26:42)
73. What did the centurion say when Jesus dies?

a.. Certainly this man was innocent (Luke 23:47)
b.. Truly this man was the Son of God (Mark 15:39)
74. When Jesus said My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken Me ? in what
language did he speak?

a.. Hebrew: the words are Eloi, Eloi ..(Matthew 27:46)
b.. Aramaic: the words are Eloi, Eloi .. (Mark 15:34)
75. According to the gospels, what were the last words of Jesus before he
died?

a.. Father, into thy hands I commit my spirit! (Luke 23:46)
b.. "It is finished" (John 19:30)
76. When Jesus entered Capernaum he healed the slave of a centurion. Did
the
centurion come personally to request Jesus for this?

a.. Yes (Matthew 8:5)
b.. No. He sent some elders of the Jews and his friends (Luke 7:3,6)
77.

a.. Adam was told that if and when he eats the forbidden fruit he would
die the same day (Genesis 2:17)
b.. Adam ate the fruit and went on to live to a ripe old age of 930
years
(Genesis 5:5)
78.

a.. God decided that the life-span of humans will be limited to 120
years
(Genesis 6:3)
b.. Many people born after that lived longer than 120. Arpachshad lived
438 years. His son Shelah lived 433 years. His son Eber lived 464 years,
etc. (Genesis 11:12-16)
79. Apart from Jesus did anyone else ascend to heaven?

a.. No (John 3:13)
b.. Yes. And Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven (2 Kings 2:11)
80. Who was high priest when David went into the house of God and ate the
consecrated bread?

a.. Abiathar (Mark 2:26)
b.. Ahimelech, the father of Abiathar (I Samuel 1:1; 22:20)
81. Was Jesus body wrapped in spices before burial in accordance with
Jewish
burial customs?

a.. Yes and his female disciples witnessed his burial (John 19:39-40)
b.. No. Jesus was simply wrapped in a linen shroud. Then the women
bought
and prepared spices so that they may go and anoint him [Jesus) (Mark 16:
1)
82. When did the women buy the spices?

a.. After the Sabbath was past (Mark 16:1)
b.. Before the Sabbath. The women prepared spices and ointments. Then,
on
the Sabbath they rested according to the commandment (Luke 23:55 to 24:1)
83. At what time of day did the women visit the tomb?

a.. Toward the dawn (Matthew 28: 1)
b.. When the sun had risen (Mark 16:2)
84. What was the purpose for which the women went to the tomb?

a.. To anoint Jesus body with spices (Mark 16: 1; Luke 23:55 to 24: 1)
b.. To see the tomb. Nothing about spices here (Matthew 28: 1)
c.. For no specified reason. In this gospel the wrapping with spices
had
been done before the Sabbath (John 20: 1)
85. A large stone was placed at the entrance of the tomb. Where was the
stone when the women arrived?

a.. They saw that the stone was Rolled back (Mark 16:4) They found the
stone rolled away from the tomb (Luke 24:2) They saw that the stone had
been
taken away from the tomb (John 20:1)
b.. As the women approached, an angel descended from heaven, rolled
away
the stone, and conversed with the women. Matthew made the women witness
the
spectacular rolling away of the stone (Matthew 28:1-6)
86. Did anyone tell the women what happened to Jesus body?

a.. Yes. A young man in a white robe (Mark 16:5). Two men ... in
dazzling
apparel later described as angels (Luke 24:4 and 24:23). An angel - the
one
who rolled back the stone (Matthew 16:2). In each case the women were
told
that Jesus had risen from the dead (Matthew 28:7; Mark 16:6; Luke 24:5
footnote)
b.. No. Mary met no one and returned saying, They have taken the Lord
out
of the tomb, and we do not know where they have laid him (John 20:2)
87. When did Mary Magdelene first meet the resurrected Jesus? And how did
she react?

a.. Mary and the other women met Jesus on their way back from their
first
and only visit to the tomb. They took hold of his feet and worshipped him
(Matthew 28:9)
b.. On her second visit to the tomb Mary met Jesus just outside the
tomb.
When she saw Jesus she did not recognize him. She mistook him for the
gardener. She still thinks that Jesus body is laid to rest somewhere and
she
demands to know where. But when Jesus said her name she at once
recognized
him and called him Teacher. Jesus said to her, Do not hold me... (John
20:11
to 17)
88. What was Jesus instruction for his disciples?

a.. Tell my brethren to go to Galilee, and there they will see me
(Matthew
2 8: 10)
b.. Go to my brethren and say to them, I am ascending to my Father and
your Father, to my God and your God (John 20:17)
89. When did the disciples return to Galilee?

a.. Immediately, because when they saw Jesus in Galilee some doubted
(Matthew 28:17). This period of uncertainty should not persist
b.. After at least 40 days. That evening the disciples were still in
Jerusalem (Luke 24:3 3). Jesus appeared to them there and told them, stay
in
the city until you are clothed with power from on high (Luke 24:49). He
was
appearing to them during forty days (Acts 1:3), and charged them not to
depart from Jerusalem, but to wait for the promise ... (Acts 1:4)
90. To whom did the Midianites sell Joseph?

a.. To the Ishmaelites (Genesis 37:28)
b.. To Potiphar, an officer of Pharaoh (Genesis 37:36)
91. Who brought Joseph to Egypt?

a.. The Ishmaelites bought Joseph and then took Joseph to Egypt
(Genesis
37:28)
b.. The Midianites had sold him in Egypt (Genesis 37:36)
c.. Joseph said to his brothers I am your brother, Joseph, whom you
sold
into Egypt (Genesis 45:4)
92. Does God change his mind?

a.. Yes. The word of the Lord came to Samuel: I repent that I have made
Saul King... (I Samuel 15:10 to 11)
b.. No. God will not lie or repent; for he is not a man, that he should
repent (I Samuel 15:29)
Yes. And the Lord repented that he had made Saul King over
Israel
(I Samuel 15:35). Notice that the above three quotes are all from the
same
chapter of the same book! In addition, the Bible shows that God repented
on
several other occasions:

i. The Lord was sorry that he made man (Genesis 6:6)

I am sorry that I have made them (Genesis 6:7)

ii. And the Lord repented of the evil which he thought to do to his
people
(Exodus 32:14).

iii. (Lots of other such references).

93. The Bible says that for each miracle Moses and Aaron demonstrated the
magicians did the same by their secret arts. Then comes the following
feat:

a.. Moses and Aaron converted all the available water into blood
(Exodus
7:20-21)
b.. The magicians did the same (Exodus 7:22). This is impossible, since
there would have been no water left to convert into blood.
94. Who killed Goliath?

a.. David (I Samuel 17:23, 50)
b.. Elhanan (2 Samuel 21:19)
95. Who killed Saul?

a.. Saul took his own sword and fell upon it.... Thus Saul died... (I
Samuel 31:4-6)
b.. An Amalekite slew him (2 Samuel 1:1- 16)
96. Does every man sin?

a.. Yes. There is no man who does not sin (I Kings 8:46; see also 2
Chronicles 6:36; Proverbs 20:9; Ecclesiastes 7:20; and I John 1:810)
b.. No. True Christians cannot possibly sin, because they are the
children
of God. Every one who believes that Jesus is the Christ is a child of
God..
(I John 5:1). We should be called children of God; and so we are (I John
3:
1). He who loves is born of God (I John 4:7). No one born of God commits
sin; for Gods nature abides in him, and he cannot sin because he is born
of
God (I John 3:9). But, then again, Yes! If we say we have no sin we
deceive
ourselves, and the truth is not in us (I John 1:8)
97. Who will bear whose burden?

a.. Bear one anothers burdens, and so fulfill the law of Christ
(Galatians
6:2)
b.. Each man will have to bear his own load (Galatians 6:5)
98. How many disciples did Jesus appear to after his resurrection?

a.. Twelve (I Corinthians 15:5)
b.. Eleven (Matthew 27:3-5 and Acts 1:9-26, see also Matthew 28:16;
Mark
16:14 footnote; Luke 24:9; Luke 24:3 3)
99. Where was Jesus three days after his baptism?

a.. After his baptism, the spirit immediately drove him out into the
wilderness. And he was in the wilderness forty days ... (Mark 1:12-13)
b.. Next day after the baptism, Jesus selected two disciples. Second
day:
Jesus went to Galilee - two more disciples. Third day: Jesus was at a
wedding feast in Cana in Galilee (see John 1:35; 1:43; 2:1-11)
100. Was baby Jesus life threatened in Jerusalem?

a.. Yes, so Joseph fled with him to Egypt and stayed there until Herod
died (Matthew 2:13 23)
b.. No. The family fled nowhere. They calmly presented the child at the
Jerusalem temple according to the Jewish customs and returned to Galilee
(Luke 2:21-40)
101. When Jesus walked on water how did the disciples respond?

a.. They worshipped him, saying, Truly you are the Son of God (Matthew
14:33)
b.. They were utterly astounded, for they did not understand about the
loaves, but their hearts were hardened (Mark 6:51-52)

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...
Obviously you've done a cut and past from a website. In that case, Ill
refer you to any good apologetic work in a Christian bookstore. You will
find the answers there.
Something you need to keep in mind, a contradiction is something that
would
strictly rule out one statement or event over another. Many of the
statements you post are not contradictory by definition. Again, these
are
accounts written down by different people, all written from different
perspectives.

But these are God's words I thought? Now it actually is the words of men?

Things may appear different from one perspective as opposed
from another perspective, but both accounts are correct from their given
perspective. Something else you have to consider, is that if all the
accounts matched exactly, that would go to lend itself to being a
contrived
document.

Or the moral of the story is what matters and not little details about
which day the Sun was created and how there was light even without a Sun
which violates the laws of the universe that God created.




Scotty said many times to Captain Kirk, " I canny change the laws of
physics", so it must be impossible or he would have been able to do it.
Billy

"Brian O" wrote in message
...

wrote in message
.. .
In article , "PC"
wrote:



"Brian O" wrote in message
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Scientist work on assumptions that fit their agenda

Pot. Kettle. Black.

Yeah youre right. So?


Just thought you might want to know.


At least scientists are willing to admit, in the discovery of new
facts,
that they were wrong to begin with.

And the Bible has still never been proven to be wrong, in all these
years
of
scientific endeavor to do so.

This is where you get kooky. Not every scientist is out there to "prove
the
Bible wrong". In fact some recent scientific discoveries actually
reinforce
what the Bible says. For example, it is my understanding that (fairly)
recent discoveries in mitochondrial DNA shows that we can trace our
ancestry
back to the same woman. Essentially, there actually was an Eve. That
means
we all can trace our ancestry back to one man - her father. So Adam was
actually Eve's father. Does this "prove the Bible wrong"? Not at all -
the
message behind the story of Adam and Eve remains in tact. Unless you
insist
on reading it literally, which is an incredibly stupid thing to do.

Some scientists believe in God because the more we discover about the
universe the more complicated we realize it is. In the stupid
evolution/"intelligent design" debate there is no reason not to accept
that
God created the process of evolution and allowed something like us to
evolve
that can actually go about discovering how his creation, the universe,
really works.

You are doing yourself and the Bible a disservice by insisting that the
Bible has to be literal. Accepting that some stories in the Bible may
not
be 100% historically accurate in no way diminishes the message of the
Bible.
That is the true power of the Bible - the message. By insisting that
the
Bible be interpreted literally then, the more it is shown that the Bible
is
not 100% accurate, the more your faith and beliefs are in danger of
crumbling. By realizing the message in the Bible is what is important
your
faith should never have to come in question.

I hope some day you see the light - perhaps like Paul did.


there is also a group of scientists who say they have
evidence that all but 15-20,000 people were killed in a
cataclsym about 100,000 years ago. dna is about 80% junk
that does nothing but go for a free ride and the rest show
an extremely tiny gene pool resulted in modern man.
there are a lot of theories out there but where is the one
man-woman stuff? i'd love to see that.

Actually if you reverse extrapolate the population growth, accounting for
wars and natural disasters, I think you will find the numbers seem to come
to about 0 within about a 4 thousand yr time frame. I didn't do this
research, but I did find it interesting.
B



And if there had never been any people killed in the name of religion, a
ridiculous belief in a mythical superior being, the population today would
be many million more, not that that would be a good thing. Billy

"Brian O" wrote in message
...

"Jeff R." wrote in message
u...

"Brian O" wrote in message
...

Actually if you reverse extrapolate the population growth, accounting
for
wars and natural disasters, I think you will find the numbers seem to
come
to about 0 within about a 4 thousand yr time frame. I didn't do this
research, but I did find it interesting.
B



If I extrapolate the weight loss I have achieved over the past couple of
years, I should disappear completely somewhere around 2012 (but don't
hold
your breath).

Brian, you *cannot* extrapolate in the fashion you (or I) described. If
you
had a background in scientific training, you'd realise that.

As it is, I guess you'll have to take it on faith.
You're good at that, yes?

--
Jeff R.
Actually, you can extrapolate population backwards and get a relatively
good
ballpark figure.
B



I'm sure that I'm not alone in wanting to see your calculations. Billy

"Brian O" wrote in message
...

"note.boy" wrote in message
...

"Brian O" wrote in message
...

wrote in message
.. .
In article , "PC"
wrote:



"Brian O" wrote in message
...


Scientist work on assumptions that fit their agenda

Pot. Kettle. Black.

Yeah youre right. So?


Just thought you might want to know.


At least scientists are willing to admit, in the discovery of new
facts,
that they were wrong to begin with.

And the Bible has still never been proven to be wrong, in all these
years
of
scientific endeavor to do so.

This is where you get kooky. Not every scientist is out there to
"prove
the
Bible wrong". In fact some recent scientific discoveries actually
reinforce
what the Bible says. For example, it is my understanding that
(fairly)
recent discoveries in mitochondrial DNA shows that we can trace our
ancestry
back to the same woman. Essentially, there actually was an Eve.
That
means
we all can trace our ancestry back to one man - her father. So Adam
was
actually Eve's father. Does this "prove the Bible wrong"? Not at
all -
the
message behind the story of Adam and Eve remains in tact. Unless you
insist
on reading it literally, which is an incredibly stupid thing to do.

Some scientists believe in God because the more we discover about the
universe the more complicated we realize it is. In the stupid
evolution/"intelligent design" debate there is no reason not to
accept
that
God created the process of evolution and allowed something like us to
evolve
that can actually go about discovering how his creation, the
universe,
really works.

You are doing yourself and the Bible a disservice by insisting that
the
Bible has to be literal. Accepting that some stories in the Bible
may
not
be 100% historically accurate in no way diminishes the message of the
Bible.
That is the true power of the Bible - the message. By insisting that
the
Bible be interpreted literally then, the more it is shown that the
Bible
is
not 100% accurate, the more your faith and beliefs are in danger of
crumbling. By realizing the message in the Bible is what is
important
your
faith should never have to come in question.

I hope some day you see the light - perhaps like Paul did.


there is also a group of scientists who say they have
evidence that all but 15-20,000 people were killed in a
cataclsym about 100,000 years ago. dna is about 80% junk
that does nothing but go for a free ride and the rest show
an extremely tiny gene pool resulted in modern man.
there are a lot of theories out there but where is the one
man-woman stuff? i'd love to see that.

Actually if you reverse extrapolate the population growth, accounting
for
wars and natural disasters, I think you will find the numbers seem to
come
to about 0 within about a 4 thousand yr time frame. I didn't do this
research, but I did find it interesting.
B



And if there had never been any people killed in the name of religion, a
ridiculous belief in a mythical superior being, the population today
would
be many million more, not that that would be a good thing. Billy

And if the Christian hospitals had never been established, and the
Christian
feeding centers, and Christians ministries for the poor, there may have
been
many more millions lost.
B



How many died when European diseases were carried by missionaries to
countries where they had no resistance, smallpox for one.

These non christians were perfectly happy with the faiths they followed
until the missionaries arrived and convinced them to become christian
through violence and bribery, if only they had killed every one of them as
soon as they set foot on their soil they would have been a lot better off,
not mention many more of them alive. Billy

"note.boy" wrote in message
...

"Brian O" wrote in message
...

wrote in message
.. .
In article , "PC"
wrote:



"Brian O" wrote in message
...


Scientist work on assumptions that fit their agenda

Pot. Kettle. Black.

Yeah youre right. So?


Just thought you might want to know.


At least scientists are willing to admit, in the discovery of new
facts,
that they were wrong to begin with.

And the Bible has still never been proven to be wrong, in all these
years
of
scientific endeavor to do so.

This is where you get kooky. Not every scientist is out there to
"prove
the
Bible wrong". In fact some recent scientific discoveries actually
reinforce
what the Bible says. For example, it is my understanding that
(fairly)
recent discoveries in mitochondrial DNA shows that we can trace our
ancestry
back to the same woman. Essentially, there actually was an Eve. That
means
we all can trace our ancestry back to one man - her father. So Adam
was
actually Eve's father. Does this "prove the Bible wrong"? Not at
all -
the
message behind the story of Adam and Eve remains in tact. Unless you
insist
on reading it literally, which is an incredibly stupid thing to do.

Some scientists believe in God because the more we discover about the
universe the more complicated we realize it is. In the stupid
evolution/"intelligent design" debate there is no reason not to accept
that
God created the process of evolution and allowed something like us to
evolve
that can actually go about discovering how his creation, the universe,
really works.

You are doing yourself and the Bible a disservice by insisting that
the
Bible has to be literal. Accepting that some stories in the Bible may
not
be 100% historically accurate in no way diminishes the message of the
Bible.
That is the true power of the Bible - the message. By insisting that
the
Bible be interpreted literally then, the more it is shown that the
Bible
is
not 100% accurate, the more your faith and beliefs are in danger of
crumbling. By realizing the message in the Bible is what is important
your
faith should never have to come in question.

I hope some day you see the light - perhaps like Paul did.


there is also a group of scientists who say they have
evidence that all but 15-20,000 people were killed in a
cataclsym about 100,000 years ago. dna is about 80% junk
that does nothing but go for a free ride and the rest show
an extremely tiny gene pool resulted in modern man.
there are a lot of theories out there but where is the one
man-woman stuff? i'd love to see that.

Actually if you reverse extrapolate the population growth, accounting
for
wars and natural disasters, I think you will find the numbers seem to
come
to about 0 within about a 4 thousand yr time frame. I didn't do this
research, but I did find it interesting.
B



And if there had never been any people killed in the name of religion, a
ridiculous belief in a mythical superior being, the population today would
be many million more, not that that would be a good thing. Billy

And if the Christian hospitals had never been established, and the Christian
feeding centers, and Christians ministries for the poor, there may have been
many more millions lost.
B

"Jeff R." wrote in message
u...

"Brian O" wrote in message
...

Actually if you reverse extrapolate the population growth, accounting
for
wars and natural disasters, I think you will find the numbers seem to
come
to about 0 within about a 4 thousand yr time frame. I didn't do this
research, but I did find it interesting.
B



If I extrapolate the weight loss I have achieved over the past couple of
years, I should disappear completely somewhere around 2012 (but don't hold
your breath).

Brian, you *cannot* extrapolate in the fashion you (or I) described. If
you
had a background in scientific training, you'd realise that.

As it is, I guess you'll have to take it on faith.
You're good at that, yes?

--
Jeff R.
Actually, you can extrapolate population backwards and get a relatively good
ballpark figure.
B

"PC" wrote in message
...

"Brian O" wrote in message
...
Obviously you've done a cut and past from a website. In that case, Ill
refer you to any good apologetic work in a Christian bookstore. You
will
find the answers there.
Something you need to keep in mind, a contradiction is something that
would
strictly rule out one statement or event over another. Many of the
statements you post are not contradictory by definition. Again, these
are
accounts written down by different people, all written from different
perspectives.

But these are God's words I thought? Now it actually is the words of men?

Perspectives are always different. The Holy Spirit inspires them to tell
what they saw. So youre saying that if they arent lockstep word for word
the same, they are not from God?


Things may appear different from one perspective as opposed
from another perspective, but both accounts are correct from their given
perspective. Something else you have to consider, is that if all the
accounts matched exactly, that would go to lend itself to being a
contrived
document.

Or the moral of the story is what matters and not little details about
which
day the Sun was created and how there was light even without a Sun which
violates the laws of the universe that God created.

But these details have no other perspective from a Biblical standpoint.
B