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FA: 1909-S VDB Lincoln Cent PCGS MS-65 RD PQ
This is the absolute last coin from an original roll. Dealer was
asking $8500 and wanted $8000 from me, and although beautiful, that was not a price that would allow any profit so I traded him some inventory and cash and now I have it for sale. This is what an ORIGINAL MS-65 RD should look like. See it at: http://cgi.ebay.com/1909-S-VDB-Linco...mZ250143745915 Go ahead. You jnow you've always wanted one, even f you don't collect Lincoln Cents. Wait 'til you see what choice specimens like this sell for in 2009 after the launch of th enew reverse design Lincoln Cent. Thanks for looking. Ira |
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1909-S VDB Lincoln Cent PCGS MS-65 RD PQ
"Ira" wrote in message ups.com... This is the absolute last coin from an original roll. Dealer was asking $8500 and wanted $8000 from me, and although beautiful, that was not a price that would allow any profit so I traded him some inventory and cash and now I have it for sale. This is what an ORIGINAL MS-65 RD should look like. See it at: http://cgi.ebay.com/1909-S-VDB-Linco...mZ250143745915 Go ahead. You jnow you've always wanted one, even f you don't collect Lincoln Cents. Wait 'til you see what choice specimens like this sell for in 2009 after the launch of th enew reverse design Lincoln Cent. Thanks for looking. Ira With a full five more degrees of mint-ness available, what do you see on your coin that keeps it at MS65? All I can see in the photos might be some micro-water spots and maybe a little tick or two on the shoulder. If that recent gawdawful-looking 1792 half disme can rate a MS68............. But I guess that's almost like grading the Mona Lisa. Bruce |
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1909-S VDB Lincoln Cent PCGS MS-65 RD PQ
Looks like a weaker strike to me, abes beard and hair above his ear isnt the
best. The reverse however is beautiful Alan Marshall "Bruce Remick" wrote in message ... "Ira" wrote in message ups.com... This is the absolute last coin from an original roll. Dealer was asking $8500 and wanted $8000 from me, and although beautiful, that was not a price that would allow any profit so I traded him some inventory and cash and now I have it for sale. This is what an ORIGINAL MS-65 RD should look like. See it at: http://cgi.ebay.com/1909-S-VDB-Linco...mZ250143745915 Go ahead. You jnow you've always wanted one, even f you don't collect Lincoln Cents. Wait 'til you see what choice specimens like this sell for in 2009 after the launch of th enew reverse design Lincoln Cent. Thanks for looking. Ira With a full five more degrees of mint-ness available, what do you see on your coin that keeps it at MS65? All I can see in the photos might be some micro-water spots and maybe a little tick or two on the shoulder. If that recent gawdawful-looking 1792 half disme can rate a MS68............. But I guess that's almost like grading the Mona Lisa. Bruce |
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1909-S VDB Lincoln Cent PCGS MS-65 RD PQ
Alan Marshall wrote: Looks like a weaker strike to me, abes beard and hair above his ear isnt the best. The reverse however is beautiful Alan Marshall Hi Allan, There were 4 different obverse dies that produced this famous date. I had 3 examples of MS-66s all graded red by PCGS, on my HD so I was able to compare. One of them did have stronger obv. detail and it also had the S in a different position. The other two, one of which had the mintmark in the same position as the subject coin, was virtually identical in obverse detail and the third one had a slighter stronger obverse than the coin which is the topic of this post but the reverse was weaker and the VDB was quite shallow. Remember, I was comparing this coin to MS66s, not MS-65s. The paucity of quality MS-65 Rds of these dates is real, and i didn't have the luxury of waiting for a particular die pair to surface. I felt I should buy it while I had a chance. Without inventory, I can't do business. Ira |
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1909-S VDB Lincoln Cent PCGS MS-65 RD PQ
Bruce Remick wrote: With a full five more degrees of mint-ness available, what do you see on your coin that keeps it at MS65? All I can see in the photos might be some micro-water spots and maybe a little tick or two on the shoulder. If that recent gawdawful-looking 1792 half disme can rate a MS68............. But I guess that's almost like grading the Mona Lisa. Bruce Hi Bruce, the best known of this date are graded MS-67 RD with none graded finer and they're quite pricey, upwards of $80,000 should you find one for sale in that grade. I compared this coin to images of three MS-66Rds of the same date I sold in the past 18 months, and the MS-65 has a tiny brown flyspeck to the right of Lincoln's beard separating it from a PCGS MS--66 RD. BTW, I held that MS68 1792 Half Disme in my hand and it's quite mindblowing! Tipped in the light she has shimmering golds, blues, and greens and proof-like surfaces as well as the best strike I've ever seen on this design with the exception of the specimen striking whicj I also saw.The specimen was a special striking, perhaps struck twice to bring out the detail. The photos of this coin on the newsprint paper of the coin mags don't begin to do it justice. I also bought a real nice 64 Rd of this coin at West Palm that was nicer than mosts 65s I've seen recently, just not quite the dazzler of my MS-65. Ira Ira |
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1909-S VDB Lincoln Cent PCGS MS-65 RD PQ
"Ira" wrote in message ups.com... Alan Marshall wrote: Looks like a weaker strike to me, abes beard and hair above his ear isnt the best. The reverse however is beautiful Alan Marshall Hi Allan, There were 4 different obverse dies that produced this famous date. I had 3 examples of MS-66s all graded red by PCGS, on my HD so I was able to compare. One of them did have stronger obv. detail and it also had the S in a different position. The other two, one of which had the mintmark in the same position as the subject coin, was virtually identical in obverse detail and the third one had a slighter stronger obverse than the coin which is the topic of this post but the reverse was weaker and the VDB was quite shallow. Remember, I was comparing this coin to MS66s, not MS-65s. The paucity of quality MS-65 Rds of these dates is real, and i didn't have the luxury of waiting for a particular die pair to surface. I felt I should buy it while I had a chance. Without inventory, I can't do business. Ira Very nice coin. Is there a reference (publication, web or otherwise) where one can see the four different obverse dies for the 1909-S VDB? Better yet, is there a resource that catalogs the different obv/rev dies for the early Lincolns, or at least those of greater interest? W. |
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1909-S VDB Lincoln Cent PCGS MS-65 RD PQ
"Ira" wrote in message ups.com... Bruce Remick wrote: With a full five more degrees of mint-ness available, what do you see on your coin that keeps it at MS65? All I can see in the photos might be some micro-water spots and maybe a little tick or two on the shoulder. If that recent gawdawful-looking 1792 half disme can rate a MS68............. But I guess that's almost like grading the Mona Lisa. Bruce Hi Bruce, the best known of this date are graded MS-67 RD with none graded finer and they're quite pricey, upwards of $80,000 should you find one for sale in that grade. I compared this coin to images of three MS-66Rds of the same date I sold in the past 18 months, and the MS-65 has a tiny brown flyspeck to the right of Lincoln's beard separating it from a PCGS MS--66 RD. BTW, I held that MS68 1792 Half Disme in my hand and it's quite mindblowing! Tipped in the light she has shimmering golds, blues, and greens and proof-like surfaces as well as the best strike I've ever seen on this design with the exception of the specimen striking whicj I also saw.The specimen was a special striking, perhaps struck twice to bring out the detail. The photos of this coin on the newsprint paper of the coin mags don't begin to do it justice. Is this it? http://www.earlyuscoins.org:80/ James |
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1909-S VDB Lincoln Cent PCGS MS-65 RD PQ
"Mr. Jaggers" lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com wrote in message ... "Ira" wrote in message ups.com... Bruce Remick wrote: With a full five more degrees of mint-ness available, what do you see on your coin that keeps it at MS65? All I can see in the photos might be some micro-water spots and maybe a little tick or two on the shoulder. If that recent gawdawful-looking 1792 half disme can rate a MS68............. But I guess that's almost like grading the Mona Lisa. Bruce Hi Bruce, the best known of this date are graded MS-67 RD with none graded finer and they're quite pricey, upwards of $80,000 should you find one for sale in that grade. I compared this coin to images of three MS-66Rds of the same date I sold in the past 18 months, and the MS-65 has a tiny brown flyspeck to the right of Lincoln's beard separating it from a PCGS MS--66 RD. BTW, I held that MS68 1792 Half Disme in my hand and it's quite mindblowing! Tipped in the light she has shimmering golds, blues, and greens and proof-like surfaces as well as the best strike I've ever seen on this design with the exception of the specimen striking whicj I also saw.The specimen was a special striking, perhaps struck twice to bring out the detail. The photos of this coin on the newsprint paper of the coin mags don't begin to do it justice. Is this it? http://www.earlyuscoins.org:80/ James That looks like the same one in Coin World. A much clearer photo, too. Here, let me get some of my silver dip and fix it up to show off those MS68 details better............ Bruce |
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