Need help identifying Book and Value of same

Hi folks!!

Newbie collector here, but have been watching the group for a week or
so...any help would be appreciated with this.

In a box of books I picked up, I found an old book I'm trying to identify,
and if possible, value for sale or insurance purposes. I've been searching
for the last week as well, but cannot find a match to this book anywhere.

The book is The Complete Dramatic & Poetic Works of William Shakespeare,
with "The Waverly Illustrated Shakespeare" centered on the first printed
page and above the title on the title page. I can't find a publish date,
but it was printed by Novello and Co in London, and edited by Frederick D
Losey. (It may be unrelated, but in some references, it's referred to as the
Kingsway Shakespeare...there is another listing by this title and editor
published in the states as well, in 1936 apparently).

The book is bound in red leatherette, with gilt edges on the pages, looks
like a bible, and has a crest on the outside and inside leafs of what looks
like a falcon with a lance in its claws over a shield with a lance
diagonally placed, point in the upper left corner of the shield. It's a
gorgeous book, looks like a bible, complete with 2 column printing, 39 color
plates by "modern artists" (first is for The Tempest, by Gertrude Demain
Hammond). It would be rated as "fair" condition - all pages are present,
but the two outside covers are loose, and a previous owner has put light
pencil marks on the index page only.

I've found similar books to this one listed, but nothing that matches it, no
matter where I go to look. The local antiquitarian bookstore is researching
as well, but has had no luck. He believes that this is the original binding
of this particular edition.

Depending on the value of this book, I may be looking to sell it, or insure
and repair it. If anyone can help out with researching this book, it would
be greatly appreciated - if it would be of use, I can send digital pictures.

Please respond here, or by email to kevin.shubert at gmail dot com

Thanks much in advance!!

Kevin

In a way, I'm relieved it's not a "treasure" find as my wife would put it -
we also found a copy of "How to Treat the Sick Without Medicine", which
appears to be valued between $300 and $600, so it's being insured for sure.

The interior of the Waverly book is beautiful, I'm going to have it rebound
and keep it in my collection

Thanks much, Michael!

"michael adams" wrote in message
...

"Kevin Shubert" wrote in message
news:bsMne.33174$9A2.14818@edtnps89...
Hi folks!!

Newbie collector here, but have been watching the group for a week or
so...any help would be appreciated with this.

In a box of books I picked up, I found an old book I'm trying to
identify,
and if possible, value for sale or insurance purposes. I've been
searching
for the last week as well, but cannot find a match to this book anywhere.

The book is The Complete Dramatic & Poetic Works of William Shakespeare,
with "The Waverly Illustrated Shakespeare" centered on the first printed
page and above the title on the title page. I can't find a publish date,
but it was printed by Novello and Co in London, and edited by Frederick D
Losey. (It may be unrelated, but in some references, it's referred to as
the
Kingsway Shakespeare...there is another listing by this title and editor
published in the states as well, in 1936 apparently).

The book is bound in red leatherette, with gilt edges on the pages, looks
like a bible, and has a crest on the outside and inside leafs of what
looks
like a falcon with a lance in its claws over a shield with a lance
diagonally placed, point in the upper left corner of the shield. It's a
gorgeous book, looks like a bible, complete with 2 column printing, 39
color
plates by "modern artists" (first is for The Tempest, by Gertrude Demain
Hammond). It would be rated as "fair" condition - all pages are present,
but the two outside covers are loose, and a previous owner has put light
pencil marks on the index page only.

I've found similar books to this one listed, but nothing that matches it,
no
matter where I go to look. The local antiquitarian bookstore is
researching
as well, but has had no luck. He believes that this is the original
binding
of this particular edition.

Depending on the value of this book, I may be looking to sell it, or
insure
and repair it. If anyone can help out with researching this book, it
would
be greatly appreciated - if it would be of use, I can send digital
pictures.

Please respond here, or by email to kevin.shubert at gmail dot com

Thanks much in advance!!

Kevin


With a customised box and a facsimile signature -
an as-new copy of a similar edition - blue with 64 b/w illus
is $72 from a dealer.

quote

http://www.bookfinder.com/

Search is for "Waverley (with two "e"'s) Edition"


1 Wolf Online Ltd
via Biblio.com
[United Kingdom] Publisher: The Waverley Book Company. nd circa 1940
The Waverley Book Company. nd circa 1940.. A DE LUXE edition of
Shakespeare.
Illustrated with a colour frontis and 64 full page illustrations in b/w.
This book is in AS NEW condition and includes a cutomised box ( in GOOD
condition ). The volume is 8vo with blue morocco style binding and gilt
decoration to the spine with titling. A gilt facsimile Shakespeare
signature decorated the front board. All the edges are gilt. Silk
bookmark. Marbled endpapers. Pp xlvi 1094. This book would make an ...
$72.36

/quote

So allowing for condition and mark-up you're looking at around $10 tops.



michael adams

...

Kevin Shubert wrote:
In a way, I'm relieved it's not a "treasure" find as my wife would put it -
we also found a copy of "How to Treat the Sick Without Medicine", which
appears to be valued between $300 and $600, so it's being insured for sure.


well I certainly wouldnt go spending much on insurance premiums when
you can buy one for $ 75 see:

http://dogbert.abebooks.com/abe/Book...s?bi=314522284

Its also been re-published in paperback and I doubt anyone would worry
about an old edition when all they would be interested in is the
content.

Stan
Giltedge Books

Kevin wrote and I snipped:

The book is The Complete Dramatic & Poetic Works of William Shakespeare,
with "The Waverly Illustrated Shakespeare" centered on the first printed
page and above the title on the title page. I can't find a publish date,
but it was printed by Novello and Co in London, and edited by Frederick
D Losey. (It may be unrelated, but in some references, it's referred to
as the Kingsway Shakespeare...there is another listing by this title and
editor published in the states as well, in 1936 apparently)........

Kevin,

Trying to find bibliographical date on obscure Shakespeare editions is
worse than trying to find a needle in a haystack. One can easily be led
astray if one does not look for listings with the exact wording in the
title, including the sub-title.

For instance, your book is not The Waverley Illustrated Shakespeare.
The complete title for that edition is The Waverley Illustrated
Shakespeare. The Comedies, Histories, Tragedies, Sonnets, and Poems....

Moreover, Frederick D. Losey didn't have anything to do with the
Waverley Illustrated Shakespeare; Dr. F. J. Furnivall did.

The thing to do now is to look for editions with the exact wording as
your title: The Complete Dramatic & Poetic Works of William
Shakespeare....

I spent a wee bit of time poring through the listings in the
Shakespeare volumes of the National Union Catalog, Pre-1956 Imprints.
Volume 540 is the volume to look for if you want to visit a library that
has the NUC set.

On page 495 there is a listing for an undated edition of The Complete
Dramatic & Poetic Works, which has introductions of each play by
Frederick D. Losey; however, George C. Harrap is the publisher, and
there are only fourteen plates. This edition contains 1331 pages. How
many pages are in your edition?

I must stress seeking the exact wording because if one looks for The
Complete Dramatic and Poetical Works, one will come up with a totally
different edition altogether.

There was another crucial bit of information in the above listing: At
the head of the tile is The Kingsway Shakespeare. In fact, you mention
in your thread that your edition is sometimes referred to as The
Kingsway Shakespeare.

Indeed, there are listings in the NUC on pages 557, 560, and 561, and on
COPAC, for the following title: The KIngsway Shakespeare; the Complete
Dramatic & Poetic Works..... These editions contain Losey's
Introductions, only have fourteen plates as well, and consist of 1331
pages, not including xxi introductory pages. Additional information
reveals that the Kingsway Shakespeare was originally published in
October 1927, and reprinted in 1933 and 1949. Alas, George C. Harrap
of London is listed as the only publisher of these editions of the
Kingsway Shakespeare.

I could find nothing yet that linked Novello and Co. with either Harrap
or the Kingsway Shakespeare. Novello was more into publishing musical
editions, although some of these musical editons were about individual
plays of Shakespeare.

Except for the edition that Michael Adams pointed out, I could find no
editions that had more than fourteen plates. Your edition has 39 color
plates you say?

I can think of two possibilities: Either Novello & Co. acted as the
printer of this book for Harrap, or they published a unique edition that
is not listed in the National Union Catalog, or on the COPAC database.
COPAC lists practically all the books contained in the libraries of the
United Kingdom, including the British Library.

I would appreciate it if you can verify the number of full-page plates
in your edition, the number of pages, including introductory pages, and
whether George C. Harrap is mentioned anywhere in the book.

Cheers,
Jerry Morris,
Shakespeare Collector




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Hi Jerry!

Ok, we've carefully counted the plates, there are in fact 39 plates, and
there are 1342 pages including introductions and excluding title and blank
pages at the beginning.

I've also double-checked the printing information inside, and it states:
- First printed page, centered approx 1/4 down the page: "The Waverley
Illustrated Shakespeare"
- Back of first printed page, smaller type, approx 1/5 from the bottom
of the page: "Printed in Great Britain by Novello and Co. Lmtd. London"
- Title page printed opposite first plate (The "Chandos" Portrait"), in
order, although some span 2 or more lines:
- "The Waverley Illustrated Shakespeare"
- "The Complete Dramatic & Poetic Works of William Shakespeare"
- "General Introduction Biography and an introduction to each Play
by Frederick D. Losey M.A."
- "With Glossary and Self-pronouncing Index to Characters"
- "And with Thirty-nine Plates in Colour by Famous Modern Artists"
- Along bottom, approx 1/5 to 1/6 from bottom of page, multi-line:
- "London"
- "The Waverly Book Company Ltd."
- "96-97 Farringdon Street E.C. 4"

Would it be helpful to me to send you some digital pictures?

Thanks much, Jerry!

Kevin
kevin.shubert at gmail dot com


"Jerry Morris" wrote in message
...
Kevin wrote and I snipped:

The book is The Complete Dramatic & Poetic Works of William Shakespeare,
with "The Waverly Illustrated Shakespeare" centered on the first printed
page and above the title on the title page. I can't find a publish date,
but it was printed by Novello and Co in London, and edited by Frederick
D Losey. (It may be unrelated, but in some references, it's referred to
as the Kingsway Shakespeare...there is another listing by this title and
editor published in the states as well, in 1936 apparently)........

Kevin,

Trying to find bibliographical date on obscure Shakespeare editions is
worse than trying to find a needle in a haystack. One can easily be led
astray if one does not look for listings with the exact wording in the
title, including the sub-title.

For instance, your book is not The Waverley Illustrated Shakespeare.
The complete title for that edition is The Waverley Illustrated
Shakespeare. The Comedies, Histories, Tragedies, Sonnets, and Poems....

Moreover, Frederick D. Losey didn't have anything to do with the
Waverley Illustrated Shakespeare; Dr. F. J. Furnivall did.

The thing to do now is to look for editions with the exact wording as
your title: The Complete Dramatic & Poetic Works of William
Shakespeare....

I spent a wee bit of time poring through the listings in the
Shakespeare volumes of the National Union Catalog, Pre-1956 Imprints.
Volume 540 is the volume to look for if you want to visit a library that
has the NUC set.

On page 495 there is a listing for an undated edition of The Complete
Dramatic & Poetic Works, which has introductions of each play by
Frederick D. Losey; however, George C. Harrap is the publisher, and
there are only fourteen plates. This edition contains 1331 pages. How
many pages are in your edition?

I must stress seeking the exact wording because if one looks for The
Complete Dramatic and Poetical Works, one will come up with a totally
different edition altogether.

There was another crucial bit of information in the above listing: At
the head of the tile is The Kingsway Shakespeare. In fact, you mention
in your thread that your edition is sometimes referred to as The
Kingsway Shakespeare.

Indeed, there are listings in the NUC on pages 557, 560, and 561, and on
COPAC, for the following title: The KIngsway Shakespeare; the Complete
Dramatic & Poetic Works..... These editions contain Losey's
Introductions, only have fourteen plates as well, and consist of 1331
pages, not including xxi introductory pages. Additional information
reveals that the Kingsway Shakespeare was originally published in
October 1927, and reprinted in 1933 and 1949. Alas, George C. Harrap
of London is listed as the only publisher of these editions of the
Kingsway Shakespeare.

I could find nothing yet that linked Novello and Co. with either Harrap
or the Kingsway Shakespeare. Novello was more into publishing musical
editions, although some of these musical editons were about individual
plays of Shakespeare.

Except for the edition that Michael Adams pointed out, I could find no
editions that had more than fourteen plates. Your edition has 39 color
plates you say?

I can think of two possibilities: Either Novello & Co. acted as the
printer of this book for Harrap, or they published a unique edition that
is not listed in the National Union Catalog, or on the COPAC database.
COPAC lists practically all the books contained in the libraries of the
United Kingdom, including the British Library.

I would appreciate it if you can verify the number of full-page plates
in your edition, the number of pages, including introductory pages, and
whether George C. Harrap is mentioned anywhere in the book.

Cheers,
Jerry Morris,
Shakespeare Collector




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Previously, I wrote:

"....Trying to find bibliographical date on obscure Shakespeare editions
is worse than trying to find a needle in a haystack. One can easily be
led astray if one does not look for listings with the exact wording in
the title, including the sub-title.
For instance, your book is not The Waverley Illustrated
Shakespeare......"

Apparantly, I have been the one who has been led astray by concentrating
on your subtitle....... I said that your book is not The Waverley
Illustrated Shakespeare, yet, on the first printed page of your book is
the phrase, "The Waverley Illustrated Edition."

The listing that Michael Adams found is the closest listing to your
book:

Shakespeare William with a Biographical and Critical Introduction by Dr.
F.J. Furnivall and Mr. Jihn Munro.
THE WAVERLEY ILLUSTRATED SHAKESPEARE. The Comedies, Histories,
Tragedies, Sonnets and Poems. The Waverley Book Company. nd circa . 1940
A DE LUXE edition of Shakespeare. Illustrated with a colour frontis and
64 full page illustrations in b/w.

The subtitle of this book is different than yours. Moreover, Furnivall
and Munro wrote the introductions, not Losey, and there are 64
illustrations, not 39 illustrations.

There are listings on the web for other Shakespeare editions published
by the Waverley Book Company, but I never found one that completely
matched your edition. Yours is an obscure edition, but, as Michael
Adams pointed out, probably not all that valuable monetarily.

Cheers,
Jerry Morris


Hi Jerry!
Ok, we've carefully counted the plates, there are in fact 39 plates, and
there are 1342 pages including introductions and excluding title and
blank pages at the beginning.
I've also double-checked the printing information inside, and it states:
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0- First printed page, centered approx 1/4 down
the page: "The Waverley Illustrated Shakespeare"
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0- Back of first printed page, smaller type,
approx 1/5 from the bottom of the page: "Printed in Great Britain by
Novello and Co. Lmtd. London"
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0- Title page printed opposite first plate (The
"Chandos" Portrait"), in
order, although some span 2 or more lines:
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0- "The Waverley
Illustrated Shakespeare"
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0- "The Complete Dramatic
& Poetic Works of William Shakespeare"
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0- "General Introduction
Biography and an introduction to each Play by Frederick D. Losey M.A."
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0- "With Glossary and
Self-pronouncing Index to Characters"
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0- "And with Thirty-nine
Plates in Colour by Famous Modern Artists"
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0- Along bottom, approx
1/5 to 1/6 from bottom of page, multi-line:
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A 0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0-
"London"
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A 0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0-
"The Waverly Book Company Ltd."
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A 0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0-
"96-97 Farringdon Street E.C. 4"
Would it be helpful to me to send you some digital pictures?
Thanks much, Jerry!
Kevin
kevin.shubert at gmail dot com

"Jerry Morris" wrote in message
...
Kevin wrote and I snipped:
The book is The Complete Dramatic & Poetic Works of William Shakespeare,
with "The Waverly Illustrated Shakespeare" centered on the first printed
page and above the title on the title page. I can't find a publish date,
but it was printed by Novello and Co in London, and edited by Frederick
D Losey. (It may be unrelated, but in some references, it's referred to
as the Kingsway Shakespeare...there is another listing by this title and
editor published in the states as well, in 1936 apparently)........
Kevin,

Trying to find bibliographical date on obscure Shakespeare editions is
worse than trying to find a needle in a haystack. One can easily be led
astray if one does not look for listings with the exact wording in the
title, including the sub-title.
For instance, your book is not The Waverley Illustrated Shakespeare. The
complete title for that edition is The Waverley Illustrated Shakespeare.
The Comedies, Histories, Tragedies, Sonnets, and Poems....
Moreover, Frederick D. Losey didn't have anything to do with the
Waverley Illustrated Shakespeare; Dr. F. J. Furnivall did.
The thing to do now is to look for editions with the exact wording as
your title: The Complete Dramatic & Poetic Works of William
Shakespeare....
I spent a wee bit of time poring through the listings in the Shakespeare
volumes of the National Union Catalog, Pre-1956 Imprints. Volume 540 is
the volume to look for if you want to visit a library that has the NUC
set.
On page 495 there is a listing for an undated edition of The Complete
Dramatic & Poetic Works, which has introductions of each play by
Frederick D. Losey; however, George C. Harrap is the publisher, and
there are only fourteen plates. This edition contains 1331 pages. How
many pages are in your edition?
I must stress seeking the exact wording because if one looks for The
Complete Dramatic and Poetical Works, one will come up with a totally
different edition altogether.
There was another crucial bit of information in the above listing: At
the head of the tile is The Kingsway Shakespeare. In fact, you mention
in your thread that your edition is sometimes referred to as The
Kingsway Shakespeare.
Indeed, there are listings in the NUC on pages 557, 560, and 561, and on
COPAC, for the following title: The KIngsway Shakespeare; the Complete
Dramatic & Poetic Works..... These editions contain Losey's
Introductions, only have fourteen plates as well, and consist of 1331
pages, not including xxi introductory pages. Additional information
reveals that the Kingsway Shakespeare was originally published in
October 1927, and reprinted in 1933 and 1949. Alas, George C. Harrap of
London is listed as the only publisher of these editions of the Kingsway
Shakespeare.
I could find nothing yet that linked Novello and Co. with either Harrap
or the Kingsway Shakespeare. Novello was more into publishing musical
editions, although some of these musical editons were about individual
plays of Shakespeare.
Except for the edition that Michael Adams pointed out, I could find no
editions that had more than fourteen plates. Your edition has 39 color
plates you say?
I can think of two possibilities: Either Novello & Co. acted as the
printer of this book for Harrap, or they published a unique edition that
is not listed in the National Union Catalog, or on the COPAC database.
COPAC lists practically all the books contained in the libraries of the
United Kingdom, including the British Library.
I would appreciate it if you can verify the number of full-page plates
in your edition, the number of pages, including introductory pages, and
whether George C. Harrap is mentioned anywhere in the book.
Cheers,
Jerry Morris,
Shakespeare Collector


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