A kosher eBay practice?

Sir F. A. Rien schrieb:
Gerhard Reichert found these unused words:

Droger Jean-Paul schrieb:
Bobstamp avait soumis l'idée :
I recently bid on and won a cover on eBay. Prior to bidding, I sent a
question to the seller about the cover, and received a prompt
response, which led me to place my winning bid. However, in scrolling
through the eBay page, I saw that the seller had added my question and
his answer to the page, along with a question from another bidder, and
his answer.

I considered my question to the seller, and his answer, to be a
private matter and I was surprised to see it so publically displayed.
The consequences of this breaking of trust -- that's the way I see it
-- were minimal, but it's not hard to see that at another time, buyer
questions and seller responses would serve alert the competition and
boost the final price higher than it might deserve. Here's a possible
scenario:

Potential bidder: "This stamp seems to be an example of the famous
'sagging butt"'variety. Is it indeed that variety?

Seller: "Sharp eyes! Yes, it is the "sagging butt" variety. Good luck
bidding."

Sure, good luck bidding, now against 20 other collectors who want to
snag a "sagging butt".

Am I being paranoid? Well, I *am* paranoid, but am I being *seriously*
paranoid?

Bob
if you use the buttom : "send a question to seller" it is possible that
the question is show automaticaly!!

I never ask such a question, you can ask to get a better scan, but if
the seller has not seen that his lot is better then he thought it is not
necessary to tell him that it is more valued!!!

you can ask here, most seller don't read rscd!

In my opinion Paul is right. as far as I know Ebay and its functions the
"ask seller a question" - button will make Your question public as well
as the sellers answer.

In my opinion this is helpful, because sellers sometimes make their
descriptions not very carefully. In this case a public question and a
public answer helps other customers to avoid the same questions.

I cannot see any violated privacy.

kind regards

Gerhard

EBay does not make any questions 'public' in the listing, automatically or
through any other -=direct=- eBay action..

EBay does state in the form, that the SELLER may make the question public in
his/her/its listing to aid other buyers.

EBay does also scan these 'messages' to try and detect fraud, offers
'outside of eBay' and will rarely deliver if it detects a 'currency' amount
in numbers.

AFAIKs, IIRCs, IM(H)Os and IBTs are all beside the point, read the
information, it's quite cleary stated:

"Note: The seller may include your question in the item description."

Look again, it's just under the typing box!


Well, ashamed I bow my head: who is able to read is really on the better
way. After about 3500 auctions on Ebay I did not read Ebay rules, sorry.

walking back to my chamber, I regret.

I hope Bobstamps regrets too for asking :-).

kind regards from Bavaria


Gerhard

Sir F. A. Rien schrieb:
Gerhard Reichert found these unused words:

Sir F. A. Rien schrieb:
Gerhard Reichert found these unused words:

Droger Jean-Paul schrieb:
Bobstamp avait soumis l'idée :
I recently bid on and won a cover on eBay. Prior to bidding, I sent a
question to the seller about the cover, and received a prompt
response, which led me to place my winning bid. However, in scrolling
through the eBay page, I saw that the seller had added my question and
his answer to the page, along with a question from another bidder, and
his answer.

I considered my question to the seller, and his answer, to be a
private matter and I was surprised to see it so publically displayed.
The consequences of this breaking of trust -- that's the way I see it
-- were minimal, but it's not hard to see that at another time, buyer
questions and seller responses would serve alert the competition and
boost the final price higher than it might deserve. Here's a possible
scenario:

Potential bidder: "This stamp seems to be an example of the famous
'sagging butt"'variety. Is it indeed that variety?

Seller: "Sharp eyes! Yes, it is the "sagging butt" variety. Good luck
bidding."

Sure, good luck bidding, now against 20 other collectors who want to
snag a "sagging butt".

Am I being paranoid? Well, I *am* paranoid, but am I being *seriously*
paranoid?

Bob
if you use the buttom : "send a question to seller" it is possible that
the question is show automaticaly!!

I never ask such a question, you can ask to get a better scan, but if
the seller has not seen that his lot is better then he thought it is not
necessary to tell him that it is more valued!!!

you can ask here, most seller don't read rscd!

In my opinion Paul is right. as far as I know Ebay and its functions the
"ask seller a question" - button will make Your question public as well
as the sellers answer.

In my opinion this is helpful, because sellers sometimes make their
descriptions not very carefully. In this case a public question and a
public answer helps other customers to avoid the same questions.

I cannot see any violated privacy.

kind regards

Gerhard
EBay does not make any questions 'public' in the listing, automatically or
through any other -=direct=- eBay action..

EBay does state in the form, that the SELLER may make the question public in
his/her/its listing to aid other buyers.

EBay does also scan these 'messages' to try and detect fraud, offers
'outside of eBay' and will rarely deliver if it detects a 'currency' amount
in numbers.

AFAIKs, IIRCs, IM(H)Os and IBTs are all beside the point, read the
information, it's quite cleary stated:

"Note: The seller may include your question in the item description."

Look again, it's just under the typing box!

Well, ashamed I bow my head: who is able to read is really on the better
way. After about 3500 auctions on Ebay I did not read Ebay rules, sorry.

walking back to my chamber, I regret.

I hope Bobstamps regrets too for asking :-).

kind regards from Bavaria


Gerhard

Theres's no regret for 'asking', we all miss things,

BUT !!!

To suggest a negative feedback for a seller, based on the buyer failing to
read the statement immediately below -=every=- "Ask Question" form
OR
to complain to eBay or in public of 'privacy' when the seller follows the
arrangement therein disclosed, should not be acceptable actions.

I agree in both cases, no doubt. But this was not the content of my
statement.

Nearly every question here suffers from knowing to less about the things
we ask. And in my opinion it is ok to ask others, even if I could get
the information by myself. Sometimes it is more comfortable to ask but
to seek. That is also an essential of communication, and that is why I
am here. I appreciate it very well, if someone teaches me, because
mistakes are the best way to learn.

So I say again thank You for your final hint to Ebays rules.

kind regards from Bavaria once more

Gerhard

"Sir F. A. Rien" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
...

Perhaps it's the language differences, but your comment;
I hope Bobstamps regrets too for asking :-).
struck me as being a 'snap'.

Again, my position was;
Theres's no regret for 'asking', we all miss things,

But when proposals of 'negative feedback' and 'complaints to eBay of
privacy
violation' ... that's just plain wrong. That's when I take issue with
those
who fail to read clear terms.


Hi again Sir F.A. Rien,

of course language is a problem for me, because I am not an English native
speaker. But there was no intention of an affront agaist You. My mistake
was, that I wrote my opinion without reading Ebay´s rules. Bobstamps
"mistake" was asking about Ebay´s rules without reading them before. Privacy
cannot be violated, if the "violation act" is part of the rules I have to
accept, if I want to be part of the platform. Your comment was quite right,
but I got the beating for my -overhasty- statement, and I handed it on to
Bobstamps, even though I did it in a humorous diction. ( I hope it was
humorous ).

And no, You are not strucked as being a "snap". Of course You could have
teached me in a more friendly way, but I am old enough to recognize the good
meaning, even if it is disguised in harsh words. I appreciate Your
statements very well and hope we resolved this case satisfying for both of
us.

kind regards from Bavaria, where people solve problems with steins :-)

Gerhard

"Gerhard Reichert"

accept, if I want to be part of the platform. Your comment was quite
right, but I got the beating for my -overhasty- statement, and I handed it
on to Bobstamps, even though I did it in a humorous diction. ( I hope it
was humorous ).

.....from an outsider, observing, I saw both sides
and yes, I thought your comments were humorous,
and is your way, courteous.