FA: 1793 Wreath Cent PCGS VF-30 S-10

This one is the Sheldon -10, not one of the far more common S-8 or S-9
horizontal stem varieties. Smooth hard planchet with a few of the
planchet voids and hits on the obverse, not uncommon for all varieties
of 1793 cents and half cents. Excellent medium brown color and one
that many Type collectors and early copper fans would desire for their
collections.


See it at:

http://cgi.ebay.com/1793-Wreath-Cent...mZ250270706829

Thanks.

Ira

"Ira" wrote in message
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This one is the Sheldon -10, not one of the far more common S-8 or S-9
horizontal stem varieties. Smooth hard planchet with a few of the
planchet voids and hits on the obverse, not uncommon for all varieties
of 1793 cents and half cents. Excellent medium brown color and one
that many Type collectors and early copper fans would desire for their
collections.


See it at:

http://cgi.ebay.com/1793-Wreath-Cent...mZ250270706829

[pant, pant]

I see that this is one of those three-point holders. Has it been found that
coins rotate within them more readily than in the full-circumference
inserts?

James
'wiping drool from front of shirt'

On Jul 14, 4:01*pm, "Mr. Jaggers" lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com wrote:
"Ira" wrote in message

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This one is the Sheldon -10, not one of the far more common S-8 or S-9
horizontal stem varieties. Smooth hard planchet with a few of the
planchet voids and hits on the obverse, not uncommon for all varieties
of 1793 cents and half cents. Excellent medium brown color and one
that many Type collectors and early copper fans would desire for their
collections.

See it at:

http://cgi.ebay.com/1793-Wreath-Cent...rs-Edge-NR_W0Q...

[pant, pant]

I see that this is one of those three-point holders. *Has it been found that
coins rotate within them more readily than in the full-circumference
inserts?

James
'wiping drool from front of shirt'

Jim,

The coin is held in that rubber-like ring, unlike the 4 tiny hard
plastic nibs of the old rattler holders. Therefore, I think the
orienation of the coin in the slab should remain as is.

Ira

On Jul 14, 12:46*pm, Ira wrote:
This one is the Sheldon -10, not one of the far more common S-8 or S-9
horizontal stem varieties. Smooth hard planchet with a few of the
planchet voids and hits on the obverse, not uncommon for all varieties
of 1793 cents and half cents. Excellent medium brown color and one
that many Type collectors and early copper fans would desire for their
collections.

See it at:

http://cgi.ebay.com/1793-Wreath-Cent...rs-Edge-NR_W0Q...

Thanks.

Ira

I love auctions for VF coins where the seller describes them as
"almost XF".

On Jul 14, 6:27*pm, bgg wrote:


I love auctions for VF coins where the seller describes them as
"almost XF".

Since VF is defined as VF-20, a VF-30, once described as VF-XF, could
be described as
almost XF.

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On Jul 14, 7:27*pm, bgg wrote:

I love auctions for VF coins where the seller describes them as
"almost XF".

That's Irastein's standard patter, flummoxing bidders with prattle
about higher grades ("Just a whisper away!")
Of course if it WAS REALLY an EF40, Irastein would have cracked it out
and resubmitted it faster than a cat can wink its eye!
Instead, he'll be content to attempt to bamboozle eBay bidders
(although a check of Irastein's completed auctions indicates he ain't
doin' so hot in that department!)

On Jul 14, 7:47*pm, Frank Provasek wrote:
On Jul 14, 6:27*pm, bgg wrote:



I love auctions for VF coins where the seller describes them as
"almost XF".

Since VF is defined as VF-20, *a VF-30, once described as VF-XF, could
be described as
almost XF.

It COULD be described as a piece from the Holy Grail or a remnant from
the Roswell incident.
Of course that wouldn't be factual either!

On Jul 14, 4:59*pm, Voltronicus wrote:
On Jul 14, 7:27*pm, bgg wrote:

I love auctions for VF coins where the seller describes them as
"almost XF".

That's Irastein's standard patter, flummoxing bidders with prattle
about higher grades ("Just a whisper away!")
Of course if it WAS REALLY an EF40, Irastein would have cracked it out
and resubmitted it faster than a cat can wink its eye!
Instead, he'll be content to attempt to bamboozle eBay bidders
(although a check of Irastein's completed auctions indicates he ain't
doin' so hot in that department!)

I've noticed that starting prices or BINs that far exceed Greysheet
prices tend to dramatically supress the pool of interested bidders, no
matter what the price strata, type of coin or even the quality of a
given coin.

"reality" wrote in message
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On Jul 14, 4:59 pm, Voltronicus wrote:
On Jul 14, 7:27 pm, bgg wrote:

I love auctions for VF coins where the seller describes them as
"almost XF".

That's Irastein's standard patter, flummoxing bidders with prattle
about higher grades ("Just a whisper away!")
Of course if it WAS REALLY an EF40, Irastein would have cracked it out
and resubmitted it faster than a cat can wink its eye!
Instead, he'll be content to attempt to bamboozle eBay bidders
(although a check of Irastein's completed auctions indicates he ain't
doin' so hot in that department!)

I've noticed that starting prices or BINs that far exceed Greysheet
prices tend to dramatically supress the pool of interested bidders, no
matter what the price strata, type of coin or even the quality of a
given coin.

---------------------------------

Greysheet is out of sync with the prices certain rare coins are bringing on
the actual market, in case after case after case. But it seems that there
are always buyers at 2X, 3X, 4X, or moreX of Sheet, and the people spending
the money are the ones defining the market, not the ones clinging to their
obsolete price guides, figuring that "the market done me wrong."

James

On Jul 14, 5:34*pm, "Mr. Jaggers" lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com wrote:
"reality" wrote in message

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On Jul 14, 4:59 pm, Voltronicus wrote:

On Jul 14, 7:27 pm, bgg wrote:

I love auctions for VF coins where the seller describes them as
"almost XF".

That's Irastein's standard patter, flummoxing bidders with prattle
about higher grades ("Just a whisper away!")
Of course if it WAS REALLY an EF40, Irastein would have cracked it out
and resubmitted it faster than a cat can wink its eye!
Instead, he'll be content to attempt to bamboozle eBay bidders
(although a check of Irastein's completed auctions indicates he ain't
doin' so hot in that department!)

I've noticed that starting prices or BINs that far exceed Greysheet
prices tend to dramatically supress the pool of interested bidders, no
matter what the price strata, type of coin or even the quality of a
given coin.

---------------------------------

Greysheet is out of sync with the prices certain rare coins are bringing on
the actual market, in case after case after case. *But it seems that there

I'm aware that some specialty coins or rare date coins that have
either very low numbers of recent transactions, or a small pool of
potential buyers for whatever reason (such as for obscure die
varieties), are likely behind the times on the price guides and
probably haven't had the upside figured in for a true buyer of a given
specific rarity. But for the most part, the Greysheet seems like what
most people buy and sell coins for, at at least in my world.

are always buyers at 2X, 3X, 4X, or moreX of Sheet, and the people spending
the money are the ones defining the market, not the ones clinging to their
obsolete price guides, figuring that "the market done me wrong."

James

Then why do the great majority of coins priced in that manner just
painfully cycle through the eBay process and eventually fall off the
list with nary a bid?

BTW, in my experience if you are in the habit of paying prices that
"define the market" then in most cases you will be deeply financially
buried in your coins for the distant forseeable future.