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On 7 Jun 2005 14:58:39 -0700, "tripping28track"
wrote: You must be describing John Kerry, his college grades were exposed today- lower than George W.'s ! Kerry only got a bachelors degree, while Bush went on to get his masters. snip Another lie. And Bushie's "Master's" was an MBA...as low as you can go and still call your sheepskin a "Master's." Many schools even have abandoned the degree, as it's mostly a sham. |
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but Kerry only got a bachelors.
wow, good thing we didn't elect Kerry ! he's kind of dumb ! |
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On 7 Jun 2005 19:29:17 -0700, "trippingtoo8track"
wrote: snipping Noodles' delusional babbling Wow...7:30 PM! Noodles is on a manic bender! Spewing on "goo goo groopz" 3 times a day now! TELL me he's not "disturbed...." |
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Bob, look at your post- you just answered at 1:33 in the morning last
night... you must be really upset over that 8TH fiasco ! get off the net buddy, you're spending way too much time on here |
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trippingtoo8track wrote: Bob, look at your post- you just answered at 1:33 in the morning last night... you must be really upset over that 8TH fiasco ! get off the net buddy, you're spending way too much time on here Something you don't have to worry about since your posting is limited by being BANNED! |
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On 8 Jun 2005 03:45:41 -0700, "trippingtoo8track"
wrote: Bob, look at your post- you just answered at 1:33 in the morning last night... snip You obviously don't understand time zones, do you? |
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Senate Gives FBI More Patriot Act Power
Jun 7, 10:59 PM (ET) By LAURIE KELLMAN WASHINGTON (AP) - The FBI would get expanded powers to subpoena records without the approval of a judge or grand jury in terrorism investigations under Patriot Act revisions approved Tuesday by the Senate Intelligence Committee. Some senators who voted 11-4 to move the bill forward said they would push for limits on the new powers the measure would grant to law enforcement agencies. "This bill must be amended on the floor to protect national security while protecting Constitutional rights," said Sen. Barbara Mikulski, D-Md. Ranking Democrat Jay Rockefeller, D-W.Va., supported the bill overall but said he would push for limits that would allow such administrative subpoenas "only if immediacy dictates." Rockefeller and other committee members, such as Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., also are concerned that the bill would grant powers to federal law enforcement agencies that could be used in criminal inquiries rather than intelligence-gathering ones. Committee Chairman Pat Roberts, R-Kan., said the bill places new checks and balances on the powers it would grant, such as new procedures that would allow people to challenge such administrative orders. He called the Patriot Act "a vital tool in the war on terror" and lauded the Democrats who voted for it in spite of misgivings. Portions of the Patriot Act - signed into law six weeks after the Sept. 11 attacks - are set to expire at the end of 2005. The bill would renew and expand the act. The bill also must be considered by the Senate Judiciary Committee, where Feinstein and other Democrats planned to again offer amendments. Overall, Rockefeller said, the committee gave a nod to most of the Patriot Act in its first few years fighting the nation's new enemies. "We concluded that these tools have helped keep America safe ... and should be made permanent," Rockefeller said in a statement. Still, civil libertarians panned the bill and the closed-door meetings in which it was written. "When lawmakers seek to rewrite our Fourth Amendment rights, they should at least have the gumption to do so in public," said Lisa Graves, the ACLU's senior counsel for legislative strategy. "Americans have a reasonable expectation that their federal government will not gather records about their health, their wealth and the transactions of their daily life without probable cause of a crime and without a court order." Reply Sid9 Jun 8, 7:47 pm show options Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.impeach.bush, alt.politics, alt.politics.democrats.d, alt.politics.liberalism From: "Sid9" - Find messages by this author Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 19:47:10 -0400 Local: Wed,Jun 8 2005 7:47 pm Subject: More Good News From The Bush Administration Reply | Reply to Author | Forward | Print | Individual Message | Show original | Report Abuse AND...bad news for Americans: " When lawmakers seek to rewrite our Fourth Amendment rights, they should at least have the gumption to do so in public," said Lisa Graves, the ACLU's senior counsel for legislative strategy. "Americans have a reasonable expectation that their federal government will not gather records about their health, their wealth and the transactions of their daily life without probable cause of a crime and without a court order |
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yeh, that means 1:33 AM at your house, was actually 4:33 at my house...
pathetic on your part ! |
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On 8 Jun 2005 17:31:22 -0700, "8 track that smells-heil Hitler foreign
scumbag" wrote: yeh, that means 1:33 AM at your house, was actually 4:33 at my house... snip No...MORON...timestamps on these postings are all EDT. I was in bed by midnight. dB |
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Seawolf.CC (http://forums.seawolf.cc/index.php) - Political Debate (http://forums.seawolf.cc/forumdisplay.php?f=3D3) - - 'Breathtaking' Poll Sees Defeat for Liberals (http://forums.seawolf.cc/showthread.php?t=3D4922) Wrath 11th April 2005 12:16 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- 'Breathtaking' Poll Sees Defeat for Liberals Mon April 11, 2005 9:42 AM GMT-04:00 By Randall Palme OTTAWA (Reuters) - Canada's minority Liberal government is heading for defeat at the hands of the Conservatives after more than 11 years in power, a dramatic new poll predicted on Monday. The EKOS poll, commissioned by the Toronto Star newspaper, was taken after an advertising executive raised the stakes in a scandal about misuse of government cash with testimony of large kickbacks to the Liberal Party. The poll, conducted after the executive's testimony was released last Thursday, showed voter support for the Conservatives rose seven points to 36.2 percent while the Liberals fell by nine points to just 25 percent. It was the lowest showing for the Liberals since they took office in November 1993. Public support for the party dipped as low as 29 percent in the run-up to last June's election, but the party recovered to poll 36.7 percent on election day. The newspaper said the figures suggested a late June election, and EKOS predicted that Conservative leader Stephen Harper would win a minority government. "There is little immediately apparent in the political environment ... to suggest a way back for the Liberals," the paper quoted EKOS pollster Frank Graves as saying. The Liberals lost their majority in Parliament in the last election, in June 2004, in part because of public concern about the cash-for-favors scandal. They need support from at least one other party in Parliament to stay in power. The latest figures point to a far deeper erosion in Liberal support than was the case so far, especially in the populous province of Ontario, where there are 106 seats in Parliament. In a long-awaited breakthrough, the Conservatives were leading the Liberals by 40 percent to 33 percent in Ontario, probably enough to take the majority of Ontario's 106 seats. Graves said the poll pointed to "a breathtaking shift in what had been a stagnant and listless political landscape." Hints of polling troubles for the Liberals came come on Saturday when an Ipsos-Reid poll showed a much-reduced Liberal lead of 34 percent to 30 percent. But most of that survey was taken before testimony from adman Jean Brault was released on Thursday. EKOS polled 1,125 Canadians between Thursday and Saturday, and its survey is considered accurate to within 2.9 percentage points 19 times out of 20. The survey gave 20.5 percent support to the leftist New Democratic Party and 12.6 percent to the separatist Bloc Quebecois, which runs only in Quebec. The Liberals currently have 133 of the House of Commons' 308 seats; the Conservatives 99; the Bloc 54; the NDP 19. There are two independents and one vacancy. Harper said last week he wanted to hear more testimony from the inquiry investigating the spending scandal before triggering an election. The inquiry is scheduled to finish hearing testimony on May 6. Harper wants to lower taxes, limit government spending, boost the military, improve relations with the United States, get tough on crime, and end gay marriage that is now available, through court decisions, in most of Canada. The Liberals say they will invest billions of dollars in health care and a proposed new national day-care network. To add to the woes of Prime Minister Paul Martin, backbench Liberal legislator David Kilgour is making noises that he might defect to the Conservatives. Canadian election campaigns must be at least 36 days long, leaving the possibility of a vote of no-confidence sometime in May and an election in mid- to late June. http://www.reuters.ca/locales/c_new...storyID=3D8143460 This is all a result of the Gomery Inquiry. When the Liberals were in power before the last election and Chretien was the leader, they had a Sponsorship program running which was designed to promote Canadian unity and keep Quebec in Canada. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libera...sorship_scandal This tells about it but the short version is that during the inquiry the big bombshell is that the Liberals got over a million dollars in kickbacks. This is enough to bring down the government I think. It will play itself out over the next few weeks or months. The liberals have a minority government right now so the conservatives can topple to government and force an election over this. jeSilencer 11th April 2005 13:04 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- 'Breathtaking' Poll Sees Defeat for Liberals That's what happens when a party has no real material base. Conservatives take a stance on something and keep it. Liberals are all about trying to stand wherever popularity is, and that false core of beliefs just doesn't cut it. White Out 11th April 2005 13:06 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- 'Breathtaking' Poll Sees Defeat for Liberals Quote: Originally Posted by jeSilencer That's what happens when a party has no real material base. Conservatives take a stance on something and keep it. Liberals are all about trying to stand wherever popularity is, and that false core of beliefs just doesn't cut it. Obviously you weren't around or know much about 80's Canadian politics with Brian Mulrooney and the Conservatives in power then. They may go down as the worst government in Canadian histoyr, and most hated. jeSilencer 11th April 2005 13:10 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- 'Breathtaking' Poll Sees Defeat for Liberals I'm basing this on historical record that goes back beyond the 80's... not just from 1 particular government or administration White Out 11th April 2005 13:15 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- 'Breathtaking' Poll Sees Defeat for Liberals What a load of poppycock jeSilencer 11th April 2005 13:24 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- 'Breathtaking' Poll Sees Defeat for Liberals you're right... wait who was it that tried to defend slavery in America? Oh yeah and what party came along to stop it? :blah: It's also funny how Clinton only made military strikes on the bad guys when the spotlight was on him for something he'd done wrong. And the second a citizen stood up and said they didn't like our soldiers being in harms way, he pulled out. Guess that wasn't for popularity.. Wrath 11th April 2005 13:32 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- 'Breathtaking' Poll Sees Defeat for Liberals Canadian Liberals and Conservatives are different than American liberals and conservatives. Even in Canada between federal and provincial parties the Liberals are liberal in federal politics but in BC provincial politics the Liberals would be considered the conservative party. Confusing I know. White Out 11th April 2005 13:37 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- 'Breathtaking' Poll Sees Defeat for Liberals O please. back when they had slaves in America the Republican party was more left and liberal then the democrats. Pfft. Wrath 11th April 2005 13:46 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- 'Breathtaking' Poll Sees Defeat for Liberals My problem here is if they force an election then we are pretty much stuck with the Conservative party and Harper scares me. I know Sandbox likes him but some of the key issues worry me. Such as the gay marriage and marijuana reform for starters. The Conservatives will kill both of those and I want both of those to go through. jeSilencer 11th April 2005 14:12 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- 'Breathtaking' Poll Sees Defeat for Liberals lol that's bs dave i might not know a lot of Canadian politics, but I do know American Dogg 11th April 2005 14:28 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- 'Breathtaking' Poll Sees Defeat for Liberals I'm still trying to get Canadian elections...I think I grasp it now... Is what happened in Iraq the same or modelled after Canadas? People elect the body, and the body picks it's leader with the obvious leading party voting it's own as a leader? Kestrel 11th April 2005 15:04 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- 'Breathtaking' Poll Sees Defeat for Liberals gogogo red states Wrath 11th April 2005 16:14 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- 'Breathtaking' Poll Sees Defeat for Liberals Hmmm Dogg, Each party picks it's leader and that guy/gal becomes the leader of the party. Then when an election is called each riding has (for example) a liberal, a conservative, an NDPer, etc etc. running. When the country goes to vote, you only vote for whoever is running in your riding. At the end they add up all the votes and the party that took the most ridings wins. The leader of that party becomes the Prime Minister of Canada. When we vote up here and we have those people in our riding to vote for, some people don't care who is running in their riding, they just vote for the party they like no matter who it is in their riding. Others vote for who will represent them best no matter what party they represent. I generally vote for the party and hold my nose and vote for whoever it is that represents that party whether I like that person or not OR in the case of where I am living now I basically throw away my vote because it is a conservative riding and it matters not how I vote so I vote for the Marijuana Party. Dogg 11th April 2005 18:17 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- 'Breathtaking' Poll Sees Defeat for Liberals So, to relate it here..the leader of the DNC...screamer boy...I forget his name...if the Dems won...he'd be the Prime Miister...correct? Wrath 11th April 2005 18:51 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- 'Breathtaking' Poll Sees Defeat for Liberals Dean and correct Dogg 11th April 2005 21:53 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- 'Breathtaking' Poll Sees Defeat for Liberals Thats him!!! tyvm SandBox 17th April 2005 23:56 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- 'Breathtaking' Poll Sees Defeat for Liberals Hi Anne, Ya,i still like Harper,and i still consider him Canadian Alliance, we all know the real reason they merged with the conservatives. All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:54. Powered by: vBulletin Version 3.0.3 Copyright =A92000 - 2005, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd. |
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