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Rowe JAO-200 Bandstand selection stopping problem
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On Mon, 12 May 2003 03:34:53 GMT, "Don Lanway"
wrote: Forty years hence, we'll (hopefully, I'll be in my eighties) still be making these run.. even if we have to make switches... or motor parts... I recall saying the same 10 years ago specifically about the old continentals - and basically all of the electro mechanical stuff including pinballs etc, and commented to my colleagues at the time that it was the only stuff that in the long term future worth keeping as collectable as it can always be kept working as long as you can make metal parts, gears and so on. (maybe not needles though). Gears can be often sourced through clock repair suppliers or custom made to order, and motor brushes can be made too to your spec. As long as there are brush motors around in common use - I would say these items will be obtainable. BUT! The newer machines, with custom chips, or just central control computers... who's gonna manufacture just a handful of chips for the repro market? Hmm? The Seeburg SMC series is already falling victim to obsolescence and the SCD series is close behind as the Sony players die off. Hell, some transistors are getting hard to find, and exact subs aren't available in some cases... Seeburg stuff is pretty rare in Australia, so I haven't come across the problems or solutions for them, but I agree - the CD jukebox is not likely to become a long term collectors item - (if you want it actually working) as the players will be almost impossible to obtain or rebuild in the future. It's only real chance of survival into the future lies in MP3 type conversion kits, but then it won't be original, and it will be a big letdown with machines that have a visible mechanism, unless you go to the trouble of wiring up the mech to lower a CD to the player and supply voltage to the "spin" motor of the dead CD player to make the disc turn just for decorative purposes while the MP3 provides the actual music. As for solid state 45 type boxes - making up modern microcontroller based systems to substitute for the dead boards shouldn't be a big problem if there is the demand and market to make their manufacture and design worthwhile. I have looked into it on several occasions for the early Rowe types (that had that memory module where the 7407 chip dies) but never arranged anything as I since sold off the machines in question. (I do have access to facilities for professional design and manufacture of such an item through one of my colleagues who specialises in this field (though not for amusement machines primarily) Don't even wanna think about the way tube prices are going... and some are already made of unobtanium.... let the hacks begin *sigh* record related parts too seem to be thinning out. We recently could not find new N44c cartridges ANYWHERE for these jukes and had to substitute another type that was for DJ turntable use and was not exactly the same mountings. Don, curmudgeon in residence Oregon Jukebox ----------------------------- |
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On Thu, 15 May 2003 01:42:40 GMT, Tony Miklos
wrote: Rick Force wrote: Thank you all for your replies I started at the bottom and 'am working my way up top. I checked and cleaned the mech. control relay "R" mounted in the mech frame, it is indeed droping out just after the stop sw engages the selected pin. I then took apart the detent assy. and it was gumed up. Now it's "squeeky clean" and moves freely and stops more positively, but it still drops out. Now onto the cam sws. KLR said #3, but the manual states #2 for the stop sw transfer circuit, so i'll check both as per his instructions with a 9v battery tomorrow and repost....it's deffinetely a sw problem (either cam 2 or 3 or the stop sw adj.). The mechanics have been taken care of. Thanks again, Rick. If you want a dependable juke, unplug it from the wall and replace every micro switch in that thing. Years from now you will be happy you did. Or you could change one this week, another in a month or so, and so on until they are all changed. They are cheap and it's much easier to do it all at once. Agreed. I have done this for the last decade or so - and you dont have any more problems. Take extra care in the alignment - and tighten it all down firmly so as it all stays that way...... Getting rid of these stupid slide on lugs and soldering direct to the switch is also a must |
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