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  #21  
Old February 6th 08, 02:34 AM posted to rec.collecting.books
RF
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On Feb 5, 5:19*pm, "Willow Arune" wrote:
"RF":

Go back to the Hardy boys - they are much more your style...

Simple, predictable and easy. *Of course, the two lads were also polite -
you may have problems with that concept.


Yep, I like the Hardy Boys.
You like to cut off your dick and pretend you are a woman.
Who is better adjusted?

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  #22  
Old February 6th 08, 04:44 AM posted to rec.collecting.books
Francis A. Miniter
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Willow Arune wrote:

Being way up north, it is difficult to get books signed and it would be
impossible to send the books out due to costs.

So I always send out bookplates, recognizing the limitations. I find
flat-signing boring and thus always ask the writers to add whatever bit of
whimsy they feel like and many do.

As to Imus, having never heard his program I can only say that if someone is
paid to give a commercial message, they owe the sponsor a duty to present
that commercial in a positive manner. From what has been written, I think
Imus failed to do that - indeed, he mocked the advertiser. He simply failed
in his duty to his customer. That speaks of an ego bigger than a barn. He
should be held accountable.

Willow



Imus is a loud, irritating radio personality who should have stuck to photography.


Francis A. Miniter
  #23  
Old February 6th 08, 04:49 AM posted to rec.collecting.books
Francis A. Miniter
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Kris Baker wrote:


"Willow Arune" wrote in message
news:Th3qj.5800$cc3.2786@edtnps82...

Being way up north, it is difficult to get books signed and it would be
impossible to send the books out due to costs.

So I always send out bookplates, recognizing the limitations. I find
flat-signing boring and thus always ask the writers to add whatever
bit of whimsy they feel like and many do.

As to Imus, having never heard his program I can only say that if
someone is paid to give a commercial message, they owe the sponsor a duty to present
that commercial in a positive manner. From what has been written, I
think Imus failed to do that - indeed, he mocked the advertiser. He simply
failed in his duty to his customer. That speaks of an ego bigger than a
barn. He should be held accountable.

Willow



Any advertiser who picks Imus to push his product, knows what
he's going to get.


What confuses me is that contracts for advertising are usually with radio
stations or radio networks. Contracts for endorsements are with personalities.
This sounds more like an advertising contract with the radio station/network,
and Imus flipped it. If it were a contract of endorsement, one would not expect
an outright, on-air breach that gets taped for later use in a trial.


Francis A. Miniter


Flatsigned has got *more* publicity by hiring Imus to slam his
outdated book and then suing, than if he'd used a more
legitimate advertiser.

Kris


  #24  
Old February 6th 08, 04:57 AM posted to rec.collecting.books
Kris Baker
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"Francis A. Miniter" wrote in message
news:47a92e48@kcnews01...
Kris Baker wrote:


"Willow Arune" wrote in message
news:Th3qj.5800$cc3.2786@edtnps82...

Being way up north, it is difficult to get books signed and it would be
impossible to send the books out due to costs.

So I always send out bookplates, recognizing the limitations. I find
flat-signing boring and thus always ask the writers to add whatever bit
of whimsy they feel like and many do.

As to Imus, having never heard his program I can only say that if
someone is paid to give a commercial message, they owe the sponsor a
duty to present
that commercial in a positive manner. From what has been written, I
think Imus failed to do that - indeed, he mocked the advertiser. He
simply failed in his duty to his customer. That speaks of an ego bigger
than a barn. He should be held accountable.

Willow



Any advertiser who picks Imus to push his product, knows what
he's going to get.


What confuses me is that contracts for advertising are usually with radio
stations or radio networks. Contracts for endorsements are with
personalities. This sounds more like an advertising contract with the
radio station/network, and Imus flipped it. If it were a contract of
endorsement, one would not expect an outright, on-air breach that gets
taped for later use in a trial.


Francis A. Miniter


Imus owns his show, which is then sold to a syndicator. These types
of broadcasts carry their own advertising, although the local stations
can insert their own in planned spaces. Everyone you see with Imus
works for him, not for a radio station. He even has an ad salesman.
That's why you hear odd ads on radio talk shows, that you don't
hear elsewhere.

Kis

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Old February 6th 08, 05:15 AM posted to rec.collecting.books
Barbara Bailey[_2_]
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"Francis A. Miniter" wrote in
news:47a92e48@kcnews01:

Kris Baker wrote:


"Willow Arune" wrote in message
news:Th3qj.5800$cc3.2786@edtnps82...

Being way up north, it is difficult to get books signed and it would
be impossible to send the books out due to costs.

So I always send out bookplates, recognizing the limitations. I
find flat-signing boring and thus always ask the writers to add
whatever bit of whimsy they feel like and many do.

As to Imus, having never heard his program I can only say that if
someone is paid to give a commercial message, they owe the sponsor
a duty to present that commercial in a positive manner. From what
has been written, I think Imus failed to do that - indeed, he mocked
the advertiser. He simply failed in his duty to his customer. That
speaks of an ego bigger than a barn. He should be held accountable.

Willow



Any advertiser who picks Imus to push his product, knows what
he's going to get.


What confuses me is that contracts for advertising are usually with
radio stations or radio networks. Contracts for endorsements are with
personalities.
This sounds more like an advertising contract with the radio
station/network,
and Imus flipped it. If it were a contract of endorsement, one would
not expect an outright, on-air breach that gets taped for later use in
a trial.


Francis A. Miniter



From my experience in radio (on-air and in the office) if an advertiser
wants to specify that one particular air personality does their ads,
they get to. They may have to pay a premium for someone with the "star
power" of an Imus or Howard Stern, but the advertiser can certainly make
it a condition of the purchase if they're willing to pay for it. They
can also specify that the ads are to be read live, not taped. Imus, on
the other hand, may have a clause in his contract that says he doesn't
have to read anything verbatim. If that's the case, then either the
radio ad salesman didn't tell Flattie about it, (that means the station
is at fault) or Flattie knew about it and went through with the buy
anyway (in which case he's got no case at all.)
  #26  
Old February 6th 08, 06:40 AM posted to rec.collecting.books
R. Totale
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On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 17:34:16 -0800 (PST), RF
wrote:

On Feb 5, 5:19*pm, "Willow Arune" wrote:
"RF":

Go back to the Hardy boys - they are much more your style...

Simple, predictable and easy. *Of course, the two lads were also polite -
you may have problems with that concept.


Yep, I like the Hardy Boys.
You like to cut off your dick and pretend you are a woman.
Who is better adjusted?


Is this a public vote? I vote dickless.


  #27  
Old February 6th 08, 07:09 AM posted to rec.collecting.books
Willow Arune[_2_]
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RF,

Happily, your posts can be blocked - and now are...

Willow



  #28  
Old February 6th 08, 04:12 PM posted to rec.collecting.books
RF
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On Feb 6, 12:40*am, R. Totale wrote:

I vote dickless.


Are you saying you have no dick? Doesn't surprise me.

  #29  
Old February 6th 08, 06:08 PM posted to rec.collecting.books
Francis A. Miniter
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Barbara Bailey wrote:

"Francis A. Miniter" wrote in
news:47a92e48@kcnews01:


Kris Baker wrote:


"Willow Arune" wrote in message
news:Th3qj.5800$cc3.2786@edtnps82...


Being way up north, it is difficult to get books signed and it would
be impossible to send the books out due to costs.

So I always send out bookplates, recognizing the limitations. I
find flat-signing boring and thus always ask the writers to add
whatever bit of whimsy they feel like and many do.

As to Imus, having never heard his program I can only say that if
someone is paid to give a commercial message, they owe the sponsor
a duty to present that commercial in a positive manner. From what
has been written, I think Imus failed to do that - indeed, he mocked
the advertiser. He simply failed in his duty to his customer. That
speaks of an ego bigger than a barn. He should be held accountable.

Willow


Any advertiser who picks Imus to push his product, knows what
he's going to get.


What confuses me is that contracts for advertising are usually with
radio stations or radio networks. Contracts for endorsements are with
personalities.
This sounds more like an advertising contract with the radio
station/network,
and Imus flipped it. If it were a contract of endorsement, one would
not expect an outright, on-air breach that gets taped for later use in
a trial.


Francis A. Miniter




From my experience in radio (on-air and in the office) if an advertiser
wants to specify that one particular air personality does their ads,
they get to. They may have to pay a premium for someone with the "star
power" of an Imus or Howard Stern, but the advertiser can certainly make
it a condition of the purchase if they're willing to pay for it. They
can also specify that the ads are to be read live, not taped. Imus, on
the other hand, may have a clause in his contract that says he doesn't
have to read anything verbatim. If that's the case, then either the
radio ad salesman didn't tell Flattie about it, (that means the station
is at fault) or Flattie knew about it and went through with the buy
anyway (in which case he's got no case at all.)



Thank you. One of the most fascinating things about UseNet is that so many
people with so many experiences read the posts that there is almost always
someone who has something sensible to say on a subject.


Francis A. Miniter
  #30  
Old February 7th 08, 07:17 AM posted to rec.collecting.books
Bill[_2_]
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On Feb 5, 7:44*pm, "Francis A. Miniter"
wrote:
Willow Arune wrote:
Being way up north, it is difficult to get books signed and it would be
impossible to send the books out due to costs.


So I always send out bookplates, recognizing the limitations. *I find
flat-signing boring and thus always ask the writers to add whatever bit of
whimsy they feel like and many do.


As to Imus, having never heard his program I can only say that if someone is
paid to give a commercial message, they owe the sponsor a duty to present
that commercial in a positive manner. *From what has been written, I think
Imus failed to do that - indeed, he mocked the advertiser. *He simply failed
in his duty to his customer. *That speaks of an ego bigger than a barn.. *He
should be held accountable.


Willow


Imus is a loud, irritating radio personality who should have stuck to photography.


That was my point before a certain ignorant
clod started flailing his wet-noodle flames at me.
If I had a book to peddle which was introduced
by a former president, Imus is the LAST person
I would pay to advertise. Sorry if I have offended
anyone with that "radical" notion. On the other
hand, if I were selling, "The Life and Times of
Bozo the Clown" Imus might be okay. Sadly,
tv is such a large part of certain posters'
lives that they have lost all perspective. If
Imus or Oprah, etc. say something is good,
then it must be good, at least to these
eroded-lobe dimwits. Thay have been
sucking that tv screen almost since
they were born. Their frontal lobes are
like swiss cheese, not necessarily in a
literal sense, but in the sense that they
have so much rubbish flowing in and out
of their minds they lack cognitive structures
in the traditional sense of the word. This
is supposed to be a newsgroup about
book collecting, so it would be nice if the
tv droids would migrate to some more
appropriate newsgroup. Turn off the tv
once in a while. Read a book.

[Memo from the upstairs office.]

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