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Owl - again
On Nov 9, 10:18*pm, Reid Goldsborough
wrote: Here's yet another Owl. Can't get enough. This one is also atypical, and interesting, and for several reasons, one being the price. With apologies in advance for my crassness (what, talk about money when talking about coins, how uncivilized), anybody want to hazard a guess as to what, and why? Anybody who guesses the correct figure wins the coin. http://rg.ancients.info/misc/Owl8.jpg The symmetry of the three reverse test cuts is interesting, but that wasn't originally in the coin as struck, and I don't like the way one cut damages the owl's head (even if that is a common occurrence on Owls.) The off-center direction of the obverse is also unfortunate- the fact that Athena is missing the tip of her nose bothers me much more than if the end of the helmet crest were missing. I would thus discount the price, and I will say it sold for $175. (This is kind of low, so I probably shouldn't become a professional coin dealer.) Otherwise, the style looks legit, and I don't see what other "interesting" things there might be about this Owl. I look forward to the answer. (Or, I could click the link Anka provided, but I will wait for a bit.) -Robert A. DeRose, Jr. |
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Alan Marshall wrote:
Tet - http://www.imagebucket.net/bucket/is...AthenaOwl2.jpg This is a coin that would definitely benefit from a cleaning. The thick black toning obscures the coin's details. It looks like it could be a nice piece under that. One area of uncertainty though is what may be a problem at Athena's cheek, which the thick toning mostly hides. I bet you got a deal on this because of the thick toning. I won't guess what you paid, but after a proper cleaning I'd say it would sell on VCoins or VAuctions for $400, more if the cheek isn't really a problem area. -- Consumer: http://rg.ancients.info/guide Connoisseur: http://rg.ancients.info/glom Counterfeit: http://rg.ancients.info/bogos |
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Owl - again
I thought that I could see a base metal core in the test cuts. Billy
"Reid Goldsborough" wrote in message ... note.boy wrote: A contemporary counterfeit, $150. Billy Nope. It's full-weight and the right diameter and thickness -- solid silver. There are a lot of contemporary counterfeits of these, so that's a a credible guess, but this isn't one of them. -- Consumer: http://rg.ancients.info/guide Connoisseur: http://rg.ancients.info/glom Counterfeit: http://rg.ancients.info/bogos |
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Reid Goldsborough wrote:
http://rg.ancients.info/misc/Owl8.jpg The above Owl was put up on eBay with a starting price of $300. I thought that was a good price given that this is a full-crest Owl, seldom seen, and that it illustrates well how with most, not all, full-crest Owls the design is truncated on the opposite side. Three three reverse test cuts are interesting. CNG sold a roughly similar piece, as I mentioned, for $405 in 2000 when prices for ancient coin were roughly half of what they are now. The above piece was being sold by Joe Sermarini, who owns the FORVM Web site about ancient coins. So I checked there, and the same coin was being offered for $270. Sometimes material sells for less on eBay, sometimes more. FORVM has a program in place where you can earn "FORVM dollars" for various things -- adding forgeries to its database, contributing articles, and so on, and you can apply up to half of the FORVM dollars you have earned to any given coin purchase. So I was able to buy this coin for half price, or $135. Amazing buy. Worth showing off. g This is not an advertisement for FORVM. I have no connection to it other than participating, as I do here. FORVM has the most popular and heavily used discussion forums on the Web about ancient coins (www.forumancientcoins.com), and it's worth checking out if you haven't already and collect ancients. But as balance some have criticized it for being used in too heavyhanded a manner to promote the coin sales of its owner, and for this reason some don't participate there. I don't necessarily agree with this. I think Web site owners deserve some leeway in how they run things because of the money and time invested in their sites. Some other coin forums are even more vigorously policed. This is the flip side of unmoderated forums such as RCC, dominated by anonymous flamers and idle chitchatters in which the signal to noise ratio, the substantive discussion content about coins, is much lower than at the moderated forums, which has driven many people away from RCC and similar forums and with many of those who check it out not never staying. This is just the way things are, involving coins and and many other subjects, with online discussion groups, this dialectic between moderated and unmoderated. The ideal, perfect or at least inspired moderation, with a light touch, allowing for unpopular and dissenting opinion and self-criticism while damping down blatantly destructive behavior, is seen but not too often. - Consumer: http://rg.ancients.info/guide Connoisseur: http://rg.ancients.info/glom Counterfeit: http://rg.ancients.info/bogos |
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Reid Goldsborough wrote:
Here's yet another Owl. Can't get enough. This one is also atypical, and interesting, and for several reasons, one being the price. With apologies in advance for my crassness (what, talk about money when talking about coins, how uncivilized), anybody want to hazard a guess as to what, and why? Anybody who guesses the correct figure wins the coin. http://rg.ancients.info/misc/Owl8.jpg 285 dollars Ian |
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Ian wrote:
http://rg.ancients.info/misc/Owl8.jpg 285 dollars That was the closest yet to the list price of $270. -- Consumer: http://rg.ancients.info/guide Connoisseur: http://rg.ancients.info/glom Counterfeit: http://rg.ancients.info/bogos |
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Reid Goldsborough wrote:
Ian wrote: http://rg.ancients.info/misc/Owl8.jpg 285 dollars That was the closest yet to the list price of $270. When did you buy it? |
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Ian wrote:
When did you buy it? May 30, 2009. -- Consumer: http://rg.ancients.info/guide Connoisseur: http://rg.ancients.info/glom Counterfeit: http://rg.ancients.info/bogos |
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