TSC: New Grading Challenge - Half Cent - Guest voting is pronounced working and out of beta.

Bruce Hickmott wrote in message . ..

Well, from the photo, I can't see any evidence that the eye was retooled. I kind
doubt it, the normal target for retooling is the hair.

I gave it a EF40. Just not quite enough detail for EF45 IMO, but it's a no
problem coin and would probably bring a slight premium over EF40 price.

I like it.

Bruce


Thanks for your comments Bruce. I think our posts crossed in the
"mail". That seems to happen a lot with Google (or they get lost
entirely like my first attempt to reply to this).

Is that EF40 your EAC grade or are you refering to the grading scale
us mortals use?

Either way, I got a good deal on the coin.

On 15 Sep 2003 11:44:48 -0700, (Randy Thompson) is
alleged to have written:

Bruce Hickmott wrote in message . ..

Well, from the photo, I can't see any evidence that the eye was retooled. I kind
doubt it, the normal target for retooling is the hair.

I gave it a EF40. Just not quite enough detail for EF45 IMO, but it's a no
problem coin and would probably bring a slight premium over EF40 price.

I like it.

Bruce


Thanks for your comments Bruce. I think our posts crossed in the
"mail". That seems to happen a lot with Google (or they get lost
entirely like my first attempt to reply to this).

Is that EF40 your EAC grade or are you refering to the grading scale
us mortals use?

Either way, I got a good deal on the coin.

I think that's an EAC 40. And a nice one. Another poster indicated that a dealer
felt it might go 55-58 in a slab on a good day. Whatever, it's still the same
coin.

Yeah, you got a good deal. You'll have no problem moving that coin when the time
comes to sell.

Bruce

On 15 Sep 2003 07:52:43 -0700, (Randy
Thompson) wrote:

1804 half cent:

I guess most of the votes are in. I bought this coin off ebay about
four years ago as an XF. When I got the coin I was pleased. I grade
it EF-45 myself.

IIRC, that's what I called it also. It's certainly nicer than my
example of this variety (but mine is a later die state, which I
like).

I took it to a dealer whos grading opinion I respect
and who collects Half Cents himself. He agreed with me and said it
had a shot at AU-50 on a good day from PCGS or NGC. This was four
years ago so who knows where their standards have drifted by now. Of
course EAC would grade the coin lower I'm sure.

Well I'm (presumably) grading by EAC standards, and Bruce calls
it a 40, and one grade difference to me is not important. For
what it's worth, I too see no funny business with the eye. And
commercially, I would not be surprised at this coin getting a
mid-AU grade.

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It's very hard to get the light
right to see it. Is this a characteristic of this variety?

No opinions from any one on the bulge?

Looking through Manley, it appears that the die bulge is present
in all four of the spiked chin varieties, and is likely related
to the damage the die received to give its name. The C-8 you
have is the last of these struck. It looks to be a Manley state
3.0, which is a common die state.


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Ed. Stoebenau
a #143

I went with an AU53 on this half cent, and I'll tell you why. The obverse is a
clear AU (in my very amatuer opinion) with the reverse being apparently EF. But
because of the die failure causing the obverse to bulge, the reverse would not
have struck up sharply even in Mint State. Some of the leaves showed the center
well, which seems like an inconsistency of wear. If I recall correctly, this
"mushy" appearance occurs on other coins more dramatically (1811 4 star break?)
and that was my logic.
In any case, the market has spoken! The opinions in this group are more
important than those at PCGS to me. Stujoe- you have provided the best learning
site on the net. Thanks!

In article , lyntoy1
@aol.com says...
I went with an AU53 on this half cent, and I'll tell you why. The obverse is a
clear AU (in my very amatuer opinion) with the reverse being apparently EF. But
because of the die failure causing the obverse to bulge, the reverse would not
have struck up sharply even in Mint State. Some of the leaves showed the center
well, which seems like an inconsistency of wear. If I recall correctly, this
"mushy" appearance occurs on other coins more dramatically (1811 4 star break?)
and that was my logic.
In any case, the market has spoken! The opinions in this group are more
important than those at PCGS to me. Stujoe- you have provided the best learning
site on the net. Thanks!

Thank you guys. Don't think for a minute that I don't learn along with
eveyone else. :-)


--
Stu Miller
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