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Shield nickel struck thru cloth
Today I received an Ebay purchase of 2 Shield nickels. I was
especially curious about one, which is atypical. I took it to a local coin dealer, who declined to speculate on what it was or what it was struck on. I have not photos, yet, on the coin. One side is described as an 1873 "closed 3" in VF+ condition. The container it came in state "split after strike". A curious statement. Looking through my copy of 2006 U.S. Coin Digest, p. 30, the reverse of the nickel appears to be "struck through cloth" or III-K-1 error. Rippling ridges are present over the entire reverse. The coin was weighed (only approximate, I'm afraid, since the dealer's scale only gives the weight in grams) at 2 grams. A Shield nickel should weigh about 5 grams. The coin is visibly much thinner than the other Shield nickel I received. The edge, near what would be the rim, is missing, and is quite sharp, like a dull knife. A Seated Liberty Dime for 1874 should weigh 2.4900 grams if uncirculated. I suspect this is a Shield nickel struck through cloth on a Seated Liberty dime planchet. I will be posting photos of this, uh, thing shortly. My questions to the group: has anyone seen such an error before? Does it make economic sense to submit such a coin to PCGS or other grading company (ANACS, NGC, etc) for grading/authentication? Daniel B. Wheeler |
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Shield nickel struck thru cloth
On Apr 2, 5:13 pm, wrote:
Today I received an Ebay purchase of 2 Shield nickels. I was Just took photos of above and posted at: http://community.webshots.com/album/577219857lAqKRM Daniel B. Wheeler |
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Shield nickel struck thru cloth
wrote in message ... On Apr 2, 5:13 pm, wrote: Today I received an Ebay purchase of 2 Shield nickels. I was Just took photos of above and posted at: http://community.webshots.com/album/577219857lAqKRM Daniel B. Wheeler It's a split planchet. The split occurred after the coin was struck, so conceivably its mate is still out there somewhere. |
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Shield nickel struck thru cloth
On Apr 2, 5:59 pm, "Scurvy Dog" wrote:
wrote in message ... On Apr 2, 5:13 pm, wrote: Today I received an Ebay purchase of 2 Shield nickels. I was Just took photos of above and posted at: http://community.webshots.com/album/577219857lAqKRM Daniel B. Wheeler It's a split planchet. The split occurred after the coin was struck, so conceivably its mate is still out there somewhere. So you are saying it is approximately half of the original planchet? Do you know of any photos of such a thing? Why would the reverse have such ordered, wavy lines, which appears to mimic the photo in 2006 Coin Digest (p. 30) of an III-K-1 Struck Through Cloth? Wouldn't a split planchet be a clean surface? Just asking. I've never seen a split planchet before, nor seen photos of it. Daniel B. Wheeler |
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Shield nickel struck thru cloth
On Apr 2, 5:49 pm, wrote:
On Apr 2, 5:13 pm, wrote: Today I received an Ebay purchase of 2 Shield nickels. I was Just took photos of above and posted at: http://community.webshots.com/album/577219857lAqKRM Daniel B. Wheeler Just reviewed photos, and found something else. On the reverse of the 1873 at the top, the U (in TRUST) looks more like either a C, O, or U, depending on which way the coin happens to be facing. Odd. Daniel B. Wheeler |
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Shield nickel struck thru cloth
On Apr 2, 5:59 pm, "Scurvy Dog" wrote:
wrote in message ... On Apr 2, 5:13 pm, wrote: Today I received an Ebay purchase of 2 Shield nickels. I was Just took photos of above and posted at: http://community.webshots.com/album/577219857lAqKRM Daniel B. Wheeler It's a split planchet. The split occurred after the coin was struck, so conceivably its mate is still out there somewhere. Just went to this site: http://www.jimscoins.com/error_coin_examples.php and found example of split planchet coin. I can see where you might think this was the same. I don't think it matches the description, though. A split planchet should have striations: lines, on the split surface. My coin appears to have an irregular wavy appearance. Daniel B. Wheeler |
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Shield nickel struck thru cloth
On Apr 2, 10:48*pm, wrote:
I don't think it matches the description, though. A split planchet should have striations: lines, on the split surface. My coin appears to have an irregular wavy appearance. Daniel B. Wheeler Dan, I too believe it to be a split planchet. I don't believe it to be struck on wrong planchet as the obverse was well struck, and practically zero reverse. The photos of the edge were quite telling, as it appears that one side of the coin to be thicker than the other but not affecting the strike on the obverse. Conclusion: well struck coin that split after being minted. Just my 2¢ worth, 2.5 times. Jud |
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Shield nickel struck thru cloth
wrote in message ... On Apr 2, 5:59 pm, "Scurvy Dog" wrote: wrote in message ... On Apr 2, 5:13 pm, wrote: Today I received an Ebay purchase of 2 Shield nickels. I was Just took photos of above and posted at: http://community.webshots.com/album/577219857lAqKRM Daniel B. Wheeler It's a split planchet. The split occurred after the coin was struck, so conceivably its mate is still out there somewhere. Just went to this site: http://www.jimscoins.com/error_coin_examples.php and found example of split planchet coin. I can see where you might think this was the same. I don't think it matches the description, though. A split planchet should have striations: lines, on the split surface. My coin appears to have an irregular wavy appearance. You asked for opinions. Then you want to argue when you get them. I'm done with you. |
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Shield nickel struck thru cloth
On Apr 3, 7:09 am, "Scurvy Dog" wrote:
[snip] You asked for opinions. I did. Then you want to argue when you get them. I'm not arguing. I thought we were discussing a coin. I'm done with you. Thanks for your opinion. Bye. Daniel B. Wheeler |
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Shield nickel struck thru cloth
On Apr 2, 9:42 pm, Jud wrote:
On Apr 2, 10:48 pm, wrote: I don't think it matches the description, though. A split planchet should have striations: lines, on the split surface. My coin appears to have an irregular wavy appearance. Daniel B. Wheeler Dan, I too believe it to be a split planchet. I don't believe it to be struck on wrong planchet as the obverse was well struck, and practically zero reverse. The photos of the edge were quite telling, as it appears that one side of the coin to be thicker than the other but not affecting the strike on the obverse. Conclusion: well struck coin that split after being minted. Just my 2¢ worth, 2.5 times. Jud Thanks, Jud. Daniel B. Wheeler |
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