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The new Boy Scout Silver Dollar from the US Mint? Why a girl?
"Mr. Jaggers" lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com wrote in message ... Bruce Remick wrote: "Mr. Jaggers" lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com wrote in message ... Bruce Remick wrote: "tony cooper" wrote in message ... On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 11:41:28 -0400, "Bruce Remick" wrote: "Bones" wrote in message ... On Mar 19, 1:21 am, MKW wrote: Can someone tell me again why there is a female featured on the Boy Scout silver dollar? You should note that BSA does not have a problem with the coin, and so why should you. But, here have been females involved with the "Boy Scouts" for a LONG time. Examples: Explorer Posts can, and do, have female members. Den Mothers are a vitally important part of the Cub Scout system. When a scout earns the Eagle Badge, it is typically his MOTHER that presents him with the award. Girls have sued for, and won, the right to be part of Scout Troops -- not common, but it does happen. For these reasons, and more, "Boy Scouts" have called themselves "Scouts" for more than 30 years. Basically, if it were not for the involvement and support of females, there would be not such thing as Scouting. =========== Aside from spawning sons, it's a stretch to claim that there would be no such thing as scouting without the involvement and support of females. Few would discount the support moms give their sons, but then moms aren't considered "Scouts" per se and would not likely be represented by the figure depicted on the coin in question. Most moms support all types of activities and goals of their sons and daughters equally. They typically served as den mothers for young Cub Scouts largely because the dad's were working while afternoon meetings were held. The dads I knew provided most of their their support in the evenings and on weekends. IMO, having been a cub and boy scout back when kids handled knives and guns without parents having heart failure, I would not expect the design of a coin celebrating the history of the Boy Scouts to feature a female on it. On the other hand, a coin noting the "progress" of the Boy Scouts as it exists today might, and apparently does. Perhaps the design should include an official of the Scouts barring the door to gays, agnostics, and atheists so the coin would really reflect the BSA's policies. Not necessary. Just a Boy Scout and Cub Scout. All the coin needs to reflect is the light. Is that a deep cameo proof CAC PQ reflection, or just a low-end MS60 level reflection that you're hoping for? Most anything would be acceptable as long as it's not a reflection on me. For some reason, I still have my 1951 BSA registration card which features a Rockwell-type picture of a Cub Scout, Boy Scout, and what I presume is a Sea Scout on the front. Maybe the 2010 equivalent registration card includes some other folks, unless the whole process is done online now. Imagine teaching young Cubs how to trap and skin animals today. There go the den mothers. Norman Rockwell's world exists only in our dreams. Very pleasant dreams, but dreams nevertheless. The real world of his era was nastier than most people imagine. I dunno. I sure identified with a lot of the scenes in his paintings. But yeah, they're dreams now. |
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The new Boy Scout Silver Dollar from the US Mint? Why a girl?
"Mr. Jaggers" wrote:
MKW wrote: Can someone tell me again why there is a female featured on the Boy Scout silver dollar? I was at a banquet tonight for Boy Scout Alumni...and NO one had ever heard of a girl being in the boy scouts. That really is the dumbest design ever. Nice to see that committees dictate art that have no clue about the organizations. And being politically correct is not the same as being inaccurate. I won't come right out and give away this Communist/Socialist/Fascist/Atheist/Marxist/Leninist/Stalinist/French-Looking/Sissy/Librul (pick one or more of your favorites from this list) plot, as it just wouldn't be sporting of me. But if you'd really, really like to have a clue about what the girl is doing on the boy scout coin, look up the term "Venturing" on any good search engine and do some reading. You'll be glad you did! James The Boy Scouts of America's executive board is Communist/Socialist/Fascist/Atheist/Marxist/Leninist/Stalinist/French-Looking/Sissy/Librul? JAM |
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The new Boy Scout Silver Dollar from the US Mint? Why a girl?
Frank Galikanokus wrote:
"Mr. Jaggers" wrote: MKW wrote: Can someone tell me again why there is a female featured on the Boy Scout silver dollar? I was at a banquet tonight for Boy Scout Alumni...and NO one had ever heard of a girl being in the boy scouts. That really is the dumbest design ever. Nice to see that committees dictate art that have no clue about the organizations. And being politically correct is not the same as being inaccurate. I won't come right out and give away this Communist/Socialist/Fascist/Atheist/Marxist/Leninist/Stalinist/French-Looking/Sissy/Librul (pick one or more of your favorites from this list) plot, as it just wouldn't be sporting of me. But if you'd really, really like to have a clue about what the girl is doing on the boy scout coin, look up the term "Venturing" on any good search engine and do some reading. You'll be glad you did! James The Boy Scouts of America's executive board is Communist/Socialist/Fascist/Atheist/Marxist/Leninist/Stalinist/French-Looking/Sissy/Librul? None of the above. I suppose I shoulda just come right out and given the OP the answer, but you know me... James the Irascible |
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The new Boy Scout Silver Dollar from the US Mint? Why a girl?
Bruce Remick wrote:
"Mr. Jaggers" lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com wrote in message ... Bruce Remick wrote: "Mr. Jaggers" lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com wrote in message ... Bruce Remick wrote: "tony cooper" wrote in message ... On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 11:41:28 -0400, "Bruce Remick" wrote: "Bones" wrote in message ... On Mar 19, 1:21 am, MKW wrote: Can someone tell me again why there is a female featured on the Boy Scout silver dollar? You should note that BSA does not have a problem with the coin, and so why should you. But, here have been females involved with the "Boy Scouts" for a LONG time. Examples: Explorer Posts can, and do, have female members. Den Mothers are a vitally important part of the Cub Scout system. When a scout earns the Eagle Badge, it is typically his MOTHER that presents him with the award. Girls have sued for, and won, the right to be part of Scout Troops -- not common, but it does happen. For these reasons, and more, "Boy Scouts" have called themselves "Scouts" for more than 30 years. Basically, if it were not for the involvement and support of females, there would be not such thing as Scouting. =========== Aside from spawning sons, it's a stretch to claim that there would be no such thing as scouting without the involvement and support of females. Few would discount the support moms give their sons, but then moms aren't considered "Scouts" per se and would not likely be represented by the figure depicted on the coin in question. Most moms support all types of activities and goals of their sons and daughters equally. They typically served as den mothers for young Cub Scouts largely because the dad's were working while afternoon meetings were held. The dads I knew provided most of their their support in the evenings and on weekends. IMO, having been a cub and boy scout back when kids handled knives and guns without parents having heart failure, I would not expect the design of a coin celebrating the history of the Boy Scouts to feature a female on it. On the other hand, a coin noting the "progress" of the Boy Scouts as it exists today might, and apparently does. Perhaps the design should include an official of the Scouts barring the door to gays, agnostics, and atheists so the coin would really reflect the BSA's policies. Not necessary. Just a Boy Scout and Cub Scout. All the coin needs to reflect is the light. Is that a deep cameo proof CAC PQ reflection, or just a low-end MS60 level reflection that you're hoping for? Most anything would be acceptable as long as it's not a reflection on me. For some reason, I still have my 1951 BSA registration card which features a Rockwell-type picture of a Cub Scout, Boy Scout, and what I presume is a Sea Scout on the front. Maybe the 2010 equivalent registration card includes some other folks, unless the whole process is done online now. Imagine teaching young Cubs how to trap and skin animals today. There go the den mothers. Norman Rockwell's world exists only in our dreams. Very pleasant dreams, but dreams nevertheless. The real world of his era was nastier than most people imagine. I dunno. I sure identified with a lot of the scenes in his paintings. But yeah, they're dreams now. Oh, I didn't say I didn't identify with them, I'm just sayin' that in retrospect they were wishful thinking, a fantasy we all wished were true. On the wall in front of my computer position is a Rockwell print of the SEP cover of Black Friday, which shows a staid violinist pensively standing near a music shop counter, where is displayed an alto saxophone and a sign that reads, "Jazz It Up With A Sax." Now, THAT I CAN relate to! James "Saxie Dowell" the Contemplative |
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The new Boy Scout Silver Dollar from the US Mint? Why a girl?
Yeah but the femal does not represent traditional boy scouts. And the
guys, usually older, at the fundraiser last night would not buy such a coin. |
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The new Boy Scout Silver Dollar from the US Mint? Why a girl?
Okay okay...the girl is fine. The overall sculpting and design are
not the best. Still not even remotely as good as those Scouting Medals the Franklin Mint struck in 1973...design by Rockwell. This site has some pics though the reflections hide the frosty details. http://www.franklin-mint-silver.com/...uts-medals.htm |
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The new Boy Scout Silver Dollar from the US Mint? Why a girl?
"MKW" wrote in message ... Can someone tell me again why there is a female featured on the Boy Scout silver dollar? I was at a banquet tonight for Boy Scout Alumni...and NO one had ever heard of a girl being in the boy scouts. That really is the dumbest design ever. Nice to see that committees dictate art that have no clue about the organizations. And being politically correct is not the same as being inaccurate. I got my mint notice of the BSA dollar today and it made me think of Wes. I'll bet he gets a BSA dollar. mk (his wife works for BSA) |
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The new Boy Scout Silver Dollar from the US Mint? Why a girl?
MJKolodziej wrote:
"MKW" wrote in message ... Can someone tell me again why there is a female featured on the Boy Scout silver dollar? I was at a banquet tonight for Boy Scout Alumni...and NO one had ever heard of a girl being in the boy scouts. That really is the dumbest design ever. Nice to see that committees dictate art that have no clue about the organizations. And being politically correct is not the same as being inaccurate. I got my mint notice of the BSA dollar today and it made me think of Wes. I'll bet he gets a BSA dollar. mk (his wife works for BSA) If that's the Wes who used to post here, he recently had an article in the John Reich Collectors Journal, reporting how he cherried a rare variety of capped bust half dime off eBay. Lucky guy, that Wes. James the NVS |
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The new Boy Scout Silver Dollar from the US Mint? Why a girl?
On Mar 19, 3:42*am, "Mr. Jaggers" lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com wrote:
MKW wrote: Can someone tell me again why there is a female featured on the Boy Scout silver dollar? *I was at a banquet tonight for Boy Scout Alumni...and NO one had ever heard of a girl being in the boy scouts. * That really is the dumbest design ever. *Nice to see that committees dictate art that have no clue about the organizations. And being politically correct is not the same as being inaccurate. I won't come right out and give away this Communist/Socialist/Fascist/Atheist/Marxist/Leninist/Stalinist/French-Looking/Sissy/Librul (pick one or more of your favorites from this list) plot, as it just wouldn't be sporting of me. *But if you'd really, really like to have a clue about what the girl is doing on the boy scout coin, look up the term "Venturing" on any good search engine and do some reading. *You'll be glad you did! James We had girls in our Boy's Scout's troop back in the early 90's. There wasn't enough girls who were interested in starting a girl's troop. |
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