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How much do the silver & gold American Eagles asking price change with
the price of the metal? I see mid 90’s silver eagles in the original box with certificate going for around $35, if silver dropped does the asking price for the coin come down? In other words, if gold goes down $300, will the price of modern gold coins go down $300? |
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On May 23, 10:23*pm, wrote:
How much do the silver & gold American Eagles asking price change with the price of the metal? *I see mid 90’s silver eagles in the original box with certificate going for around $35, if silver dropped does the asking price for the coin come down? In other words, if gold goes down $300, will the price of modern gold coins go down $300? Not in this industry, but think about it, what can gold and silver do in the rather dim future that can't be done with cash in your hands right now? It's one thing to admire it, but have you tried to sell off any bullion lately? It's like pulling gold teeth, unless it's of considerable quantity for spot value or less. Otherwise you're stuck with what you've got in hopes of a fair private sale. Just think of what it will be like when you and 40 million other "savvy investors" find out that future return never had anything to do with the price they paid to secure one. I mean, "dying of hunger with a gold bar in his hands" ain't so farfetched an idea when the bread is worth more. |
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On May 24, 6:10*am, wrote:
On May 23, 10:23*pm, wrote: How much do the silver & gold American Eagles asking price change with the price of the metal? *I see mid 90’s silver eagles in the original box with certificate going for around $35, if silver dropped does the asking price for the coin come down? In other words, if gold goes down $300, will the price of modern gold coins go down $300? Not in this industry, but think about it, what can gold and silver do in the rather dim future that can't be done with cash in your hands right now? It's one thing to admire it, but have you tried to sell off any bullion lately? It's like pulling gold teeth, unless it's of considerable quantity for spot value or less. Otherwise you're stuck with what you've got in hopes of a fair private sale. Just think of what it will be like when you and 40 million other "savvy investors" find out that future return never had anything to do with the price they paid to secure one. I mean, "dying of hunger with a gold bar in his hands" ain't so farfetched an idea when the bread is worth more. You are describing aspects of a person to person negotiation. That is one typical situation. It is also reasonable to consider a wider market (e.g., eBay). Even there, the chance exists to sell for less than the melt price. There are also some fees and commisions payable to eBay. I tend to follow gouden tientjes from the 19th century. I have, previously, been able to buy a few below the gold price. Lately, the presentations seem better and the prices a bit more than melt. What was, will be again. How any transaction turns out has a lot to do with the attitudes of the participants. If the buye believes it is his chance to get the last remaining silver eagle for $35 (only 2x the price of silver), who could stand in his way? If he believes another chance might present itself, well... |
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Thanks. The reason I was asking is i would like to build a nice
collection of gold eagles for the coins, not the gold resale. One day gold will come down in price, this year, next or five years, which ever. I was wondering would it be worth it to wait to start picking up the 2001's, 2002's, ect. or do you think if gold droped, they would retain their current value (every thing else staying the same)? |
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On May 23, 11:23*pm, wrote:
How much do the silver & gold American Eagles asking price change with the price of the metal? *I see mid 90’s silver eagles in the original box with certificate going for around $35, if silver dropped does the asking price for the coin come down? In other words, if gold goes down $300, will the price of modern gold coins go down $300? If I was to pick a Gold Eagle that would retain its value should the price of gold drop, it would be the error 1999W Burnished Die Uncirculated $5 1/10 Oz. coin From Coinfacts.com: 1999-W 5 DOLLARS GOLD BULLION COINS - Unfinished Dies PCGS No: 99940 Mintage: Unknown (estimated 1,000) Notes: In 1999, the Mint at West Point, New York accidentally produced what may become one of the most important rarities of the 20th Century by striking a limited quantity of Uncirculated 1/10 ounce American Eagle gold coins with the "W" mintmark below the date. Normally, the mintmark appears only on Proof versions. However, in this case, the dies never received the special polishing that gives Proof coins their deep, mirror-like qualities. No one knows exactly how many were struck, but experts estimate that only 500-1000 examples have been found since the mistake was first discovered in 2000. How did the Unfinished Die 1/10 ounce American Eagle gold coin come about? The answer comes from examining how the Proof versions are created. Proof coins are struck on special, high-quality presses using specially prepared blanks (planchets) and specially prepared dies. The emphasis is on quality over quantity and the goal is a coin with bright, mirror-like fields surrounding frosty design elements, thus creating what is known as a "cameo" effect. Special care is taken throughout the process to ensure that the final product (the coin) is as perfect as possible. This special care automatically limits production -- in 1999, the Mint at West Point produced only 19,919 Proof 1/10 ounce American Eagle gold coins. On the other hand, the production of Uncirculated examples focuses more on quantity than quality (although the final coin is still impressive enough). The number of coins produced is limited only by the availability of gold bullion, by estimated demand for the coins, and by other production priorities -- in 1999, the Mint at West Point produced 2,750,338 Uncirculated 1/10 ounce American Eagle gold coins. Using the numbers just listed, we see that more than 138 Uncirculated coins were produced for every Proof example, highlighting the relationship between quality and quantity. Great care is taken to segregate the Proof production area and all of the materials used in it. The fact that a die originally marked for use in the production of Proof coins somehow made it into a press used to strike Uncirculated coins is simply amazing. Proof dies are carefully accounted for...how did this one escape? Press operators carefully scrutinize the dies before they are placed in the presses...how did the operator miss the mintmark on this one? Random coins from production runs are examined for quality control...how did they miss the mintmark? The very existence of the Unfinished Die 1/4 ounce American Eagle gold coins seems to have required several lapses in quality control. How rare will Unfinished Die 1/10 ounce American Eagle gold coins turn out to be? A lot depends on how quickly the error was discovered at the Mint and how many actually escaped. Did the press operator notice the mintmark and stop the run? If the error was discovered, was an attempt made to recover and destroy the coins that had already been minted? Even if we knew the answers to these questions, we may never know the exact number of Unfinished Die coins that were struck. But, we do know that after a year of intense searching for these rarities, surprisingly few have shown up. What are they worth? Recent sales have occurred in the $500-1,000 range. If the rarity holds, these coins have every chance of being as valuable as the much more common 1995-W Proof $1 Silver Eagle (currently priced at $3,200 in Proof-69). |
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... One day gold will come down in price, this year, next or five years, which ever. I was wondering would it be worth it to wait to start picking up the 2001's, 2002's Gold will never come down in price ever again. Who have you been listening to? Bushbots? |
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Gold will never come down in price ever again. *Who have you been listening
to? *Bushbots? This comment is to easy, who wants to go first? |
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