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FA: 1955/55 DDO Lincoln Cent PCGS MS-64 RD Oly..this one's for YOU
On Jul 4, 10:49 am, Ira wrote:
Steve wrote: Nice coin Ira, and certainly worth 5 digit money; but if it weren't for the doubling I think the graders would have seen the evidence of circulation. This is a good example of maket grading. Thanks for sharing and I wish you the best with the auction - that coin would fit in nicely with a high end set. Steve I see no evidence of wear on that coin, Steve. As all uncs and circs wre pulled out of the channels of commerce, you might say that ALL show some circulation, but the criteria is whether one can see wear under 7X magnification. If not, all grading services will designate as uncirculated. That's trueof all coins, not justLincoln cents. I've handled dozens of AU-55/58s of this date as well as uncs, and the AU-58s all show clear rub on cheek and jawbone, the highest points of a Lincoln Cent. This doesn'tshow that rub.I don't believe the doubling has anything to do with the designation of uncirculated. Ira That's impeccable logic (at least to your cult members' level of ability to reason), but the coin is flawed with a bad spot. This type of spot can easily get worse with the passage of time. oly |
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O.K., so what about that spot Ira?
On Jul 4, 1:32 pm, "jim menning" wrote:
"oly" wrote in message ps.com... Ira threw down the gauntlet first, hoss. You can continue to lick his toe jamb at your leisure. It could be to absolutely no person's advantage or pleasure to pay $13,400 for this one cent coin. Well, I take that back. It would certainly be to Ira's advantage. Cults never question their god until it's too late. oly You make no sense, and continue to avoid all logic. You are a true waste of everyone's time here. If I help to register any doubts in the infallibility of our local Google groups godhead, IRA-WEH, the Great Oz, then I am satisfied with my undoubtedly modest contribution to this forum. oly |
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Has Anyone SPOTTED Ira recently?
On Jul 4, 10:14 am, Jud wrote:
oly wrote: Looks like Oz can (try) to dish it out, but he just can't take it. Typical. oly Makes me think of the line from the movie Wizard of Oz... "Ignore that man behind the curtain". Sounds like good advice! Ira is the Great Oz, the man behind the curtain. I am just a curious running little dog, like Toto. oly |
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O.K., so what about that spot Ira?
"oly" wrote in message ps.com... On Jul 4, 1:32 pm, "jim menning" wrote: "oly" wrote in message ps.com... Ira threw down the gauntlet first, hoss. You can continue to lick his toe jamb at your leisure. It could be to absolutely no person's advantage or pleasure to pay $13,400 for this one cent coin. Well, I take that back. It would certainly be to Ira's advantage. Cults never question their god until it's too late. oly You make no sense, and continue to avoid all logic. You are a true waste of everyone's time here. If I help to register any doubts in the infallibility of our local Google groups godhead, IRA-WEH, the Great Oz, then I am satisfied with my undoubtedly modest contribution to this forum. oly I see where you're coming from. You think this is a Google Group. No wonder you are so immature. This is Usenet son. |
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O.K., so what about that spot Ira?
"jim menning" exclaimed in
: "oly" wrote in message ps.com... Ira threw down the gauntlet first, hoss. You can continue to lick his toe jamb at your leisure. It could be to absolutely no person's advantage or pleasure to pay $13,400 for this one cent coin. Well, I take that back. It would certainly be to Ira's advantage. Cults never question their god until it's too late. oly You make no sense, and continue to avoid all logic. You are a true waste of everyone's time here. Hey Jim, If you don't respond to oly, most of us will never know that he posted. -- BA "Qui hic mixerit aut cacarit, habeat deos superos et inferos iratos." |
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O.K., so what about that spot Ira?
On Jul 4, 2:50 pm, "jim menning" wrote:
"oly" wrote in message ps.com... On Jul 4, 1:32 pm, "jim menning" wrote: "oly" wrote in message oups.com... Ira threw down the gauntlet first, hoss. You can continue to lick his toe jamb at your leisure. It could be to absolutely no person's advantage or pleasure to pay $13,400 for this one cent coin. Well, I take that back. It would certainly be to Ira's advantage. Cults never question their god until it's too late. oly You make no sense, and continue to avoid all logic. You are a true waste of everyone's time here. If I help to register any doubts in the infallibility of our local Google groups godhead, IRA-WEH, the Great Oz, then I am satisfied with my undoubtedly modest contribution to this forum. oly I see where you're coming from. You think this is a Google Group. No wonder you are so immature. This is Usenet son.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Bland (banal, insipid and foolish too)- Ignorance is bliss. Buying a $13,400 Lincoln Cent is stupidity, especially when there is a honking big tin spot on the coin. Or is it a tobacco spot? oly |
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O.K., so what about that spot Ira?
"Bland Allison" wrote in message ... Hey Jim, If you don't respond to oly, most of us will never know that he posted. True. No reasoning with that self-appointed pest. Enough said. |
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FA: 1955/55 DDO Lincoln Cent PCGS MS-64 RD Oly..this one's for YOU
oly wrote: On Jul 4, 10:49 am, Ira wrote: Steve wrote: Nice coin Ira, and certainly worth 5 digit money; but if it weren't for the doubling I think the graders would have seen the evidence of circulation. This is a good example of maket grading. Thanks for sharing and I wish you the best with the auction - that coin would fit in nicely with a high end set. Steve I see no evidence of wear on that coin, Steve. As all uncs and circs wre pulled out of the channels of commerce, you might say that ALL show some circulation, but the criteria is whether one can see wear under 7X magnification. If not, all grading services will designate as uncirculated. That's trueof all coins, not justLincoln cents. I've handled dozens of AU-55/58s of this date as well as uncs, and the AU-58s all show clear rub on cheek and jawbone, the highest points of a Lincoln Cent. This doesn'tshow that rub.I don't believe the doubling has anything to do with the designation of uncirculated. Ira That's impeccable logic (at least to your cult members' level of ability to reason), but the coin is flawed with a bad spot. This type of spot can easily get worse with the passage of time. oly Some spots Do get worse with time, but the spot has to be active. This spot is flat and black, not green as you have posited, and has no concentric ring around it. It is not active. If the coin is kept in a cool dry environment and partiicularly if kept inan Intercept Shield capsule, it will be stable. I have some cents with spots like that in a safe deposit boxes at the bank with an Intercept Shield capsule around the slab and in 7 years, as long as Intercept Shiled has been marketed, there have been no changes in the spot s nor have any new ones presented themselves. In addition, there have been no color changes in any of my red Lincolns stored in the sme way. So as usual, you know little of what you expound. It is amusing to see you make a fool of yourself, Olson. I will give this, however. You apparently know and understand French, while I do not. So you DIo have some advantage in repling to Mr. Jaggers in a language I don't understand. Knock yourself out. Ira |
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FA: 1955/55 DDO Lincoln Cent PCGS MS-64 RD Oly..this one's for YOU
"Ira" wrote in message ups.com... oly wrote: On Jul 4, 10:49 am, Ira wrote: Steve wrote: Nice coin Ira, and certainly worth 5 digit money; but if it weren't for the doubling I think the graders would have seen the evidence of circulation. This is a good example of maket grading. Thanks for sharing and I wish you the best with the auction - that coin would fit in nicely with a high end set. Steve I see no evidence of wear on that coin, Steve. As all uncs and circs wre pulled out of the channels of commerce, you might say that ALL show some circulation, but the criteria is whether one can see wear under 7X magnification. If not, all grading services will designate as uncirculated. That's trueof all coins, not justLincoln cents. I've handled dozens of AU-55/58s of this date as well as uncs, and the AU-58s all show clear rub on cheek and jawbone, the highest points of a Lincoln Cent. This doesn'tshow that rub.I don't believe the doubling has anything to do with the designation of uncirculated. Ira That's impeccable logic (at least to your cult members' level of ability to reason), but the coin is flawed with a bad spot. This type of spot can easily get worse with the passage of time. oly Some spots Do get worse with time, but the spot has to be active. This spot is flat and black, not green as you have posited, and has no concentric ring around it. It is not active. If the coin is kept in a cool dry environment and partiicularly if kept inan Intercept Shield capsule, it will be stable. I have some cents with spots like that in a safe deposit boxes at the bank with an Intercept Shield capsule around the slab and in 7 years, as long as Intercept Shiled has been marketed, there have been no changes in the spot s nor have any new ones presented themselves. In addition, there have been no color changes in any of my red Lincolns stored in the sme way. So as usual, you know little of what you expound. It is amusing to see you make a fool of yourself, Olson. I will give this, however. You apparently know and understand French, while I do not. So you DIo have some advantage in repling to Mr. Jaggers in a language I don't understand. Knock yourself out. Bonjour, Ira, ça va? Et Madame, elle va bien? [ahem] I guess we all have our price points beyond which we won't, or can't, go. Each of us has his opinions about what imperfections we won't, or can't, tolerate. Our motivations for collecting, as well as the things we collect, are diverse. Nevertheless, I hope that we can have love of numismatics as our common ground. Whether we accept only PCGS MS-63 or better key coins or are thrilled with the acquisition of a raw VG buffalo nickel to fill another hole in our album, I'll wager that the pleasure quotient is approximately the same. I love Ira coins. I love non-Ira coins. In a word, I love coins! Wait, that was three words. Oh, well... James |
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FA: 1955/55 DDO Lincoln Cent PCGS MS-64 RD Oly..this one's for YOU
On Jul 4, 5:13 pm, Ira wrote:
oly wrote: On Jul 4, 10:49 am, Ira wrote: Steve wrote: Nice coin Ira, and certainly worth 5 digit money; but if it weren't for the doubling I think the graders would have seen the evidence of circulation. This is a good example of maket grading. Thanks for sharing and I wish you the best with the auction - that coin would fit in nicely with a high end set. Steve I see no evidence of wear on that coin, Steve. As all uncs and circs wre pulled out of the channels of commerce, you might say that ALL show some circulation, but the criteria is whether one can see wear under 7X magnification. If not, all grading services will designate as uncirculated. That's trueof all coins, not justLincoln cents. I've handled dozens of AU-55/58s of this date as well as uncs, and the AU-58s all show clear rub on cheek and jawbone, the highest points of a Lincoln Cent. This doesn'tshow that rub.I don't believe the doubling has anything to do with the designation of uncirculated. Ira That's impeccable logic (at least to your cult members' level of ability to reason), but the coin is flawed with a bad spot. This type of spot can easily get worse with the passage of time. oly Some spots Do get worse with time, but the spot has to be active. This spot is flat and black, not green as you have posited, and has no concentric ring around it. It is not active. If the coin is kept in a cool dry environment and partiicularly if kept inan Intercept Shield capsule, it will be stable. I have some cents with spots like that in a safe deposit boxes at the bank with an Intercept Shield capsule around the slab and in 7 years, as long as Intercept Shiled has been marketed, there have been no changes in the spot s nor have any new ones presented themselves. In addition, there have been no color changes in any of my red Lincolns stored in the sme way. So as usual, you know little of what you expound. It is amusing to see you make a fool of yourself, Olson. I will give this, however. You apparently know and understand French, while I do not. So you DIo have some advantage in repling to Mr. Jaggers in a language I don't understand. Knock yourself out. Ira- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - O.K. Oz, that's your expert OPINION on the pesky tin spot on that Lincon Cent (and it looks blue-green in your photograph); and I freely acknowledge your expertise; but why should anybody punt $13,400 to find out if you're right? Thirteen thousand, four hundred dollars. Fair amount of dough. After all, it's just a damn penny, three grams of copper. A bronze minor coin that is less than sixty years old. Really, what's the point? Don't the downside risks far (far far far far far far) exceed the upside potential? If a dyed-in-the-wool U.S. collector has to have a '55 double die, why wouldn't a brown strict extra fine, WITHOUT TIN SPOT, do just as well? After you've bought that XF, the remainder of the cash (probably $12,000 or more) could buy ten rather nice Saints in the indispensible PCGS slabs, around a month of travel in Europe mostly staying in three-star hotels and when you get home, some additional good books for one's library. Or you could just buy the XF, then add to some stuff to your pantry and finally stash the remainder of ten thousand or more in the good old woolen sock. Any old economic wind that blows ill will take the wind out of the sales of these pricey, less than really truly important modern United States coins. Sale on, oly |
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