Q: Music on Paintings by Abel Grimmer

In 1969 Ras Al Khaima issued a set of 4 paintings by the Flemish renaissance
painter Abel Grimmer, depicting allegories of Vivaldi's orchestral music
"The Four Seasons". They are all listed as Michel Block 70. Has anyone
ever seen this block, and can offer a fair scan? I really only need the
scan, but am ready to buy the block if so demanded.
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Best regards
Ann Mette Heindorff (Mette)
reply to heindorffhus at heindorffhus dot.dk
http://www.heindorffhus.dk

"amesh (Mette)" skrev i en meddelelse
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In 1969 Ras Al Khaima issued a set of 4 paintings by the Flemish
renaissance
painter Abel Grimmer, depicting allegories of Vivaldi's orchestral music
"The Four Seasons". They are all listed as Michel Block 70. Has anyone
ever seen this block, and can offer a fair scan? I really only need the
scan, but am ready to buy the block if so demanded.

I wrote "Flemish renaissance painter"; it should have been "Flemish Baroque
Painter". Sorry for the mistake. And a small addition: none of his
paintings displayed on the Internet are the ones sought after.

Mette

Poor scan, but here on cover

http://www.ebay.com.hk/viItem?ItemId=5506822283

HTH





"amesh (Mette)" wrote in message ...
| In 1969 Ras Al Khaima issued a set of 4 paintings by the Flemish renaissance
| painter Abel Grimmer, depicting allegories of Vivaldi's orchestral music
| "The Four Seasons". They are all listed as Michel Block 70. Has anyone
| ever seen this block, and can offer a fair scan? I really only need the
| scan, but am ready to buy the block if so demanded.
| --
| Best regards
| Ann Mette Heindorff (Mette)
| reply to heindorffhus at heindorffhus dot.dk
| http://www.heindorffhus.dk
|
|
|
|
|
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|

"amesh (Mette)" wrote in message
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In 1969 Ras Al Khaima issued a set of 4 paintings by the Flemish
renaissance
painter Abel Grimmer, depicting allegories of Vivaldi's orchestral
music
"The Four Seasons". They are all listed as Michel Block 70. Has
anyone
ever seen this block, and can offer a fair scan? I really only need
the
scan, but am ready to buy the block if so demanded.

As with most of the wallpaper issued by Ras Al Khaima, Stanley Gibbons
refuses to allocate them catalogue numbers and has the following to
say about the series to which these stamps belong:

"The following stamps have either been issued in excess of postal
needs or have not been available to the public in reasonable
quantities at face value. Such stamps may later be given full listing
if there is evidence of regular postal use."

Franz

"Rodney" skrev i en meddelelse
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Poor scan, but here on cover

http://www.ebay.com.hk/viItem?ItemId=5506822283

Thanks Rodney, better than nothing, at least for the look. Much
appreciated. :-)
Mette

"Franz Heymann" skrev i en meddelelse
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"amesh (Mette)" wrote in message
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In 1969 Ras Al Khaima issued a set of 4 paintings by the Flemish
renaissance
painter Abel Grimmer, depicting allegories of Vivaldi's orchestral
music
"The Four Seasons". They are all listed as Michel Block 70. Has
anyone
ever seen this block, and can offer a fair scan? I really only need
the
scan, but am ready to buy the block if so demanded.

As with most of the wallpaper issued by Ras Al Khaima, Stanley Gibbons
refuses to allocate them catalogue numbers and has the following to
say about the series to which these stamps belong:

"The following stamps have either been issued in excess of postal
needs or have not been available to the public in reasonable
quantities at face value. Such stamps may later be given full listing
if there is evidence of regular postal use."

Thank you for your note, Franz. I am perfectly aware of the facts you point
out, but wanted nevertheless to see them for art historical reasons. If
that wasn't possible I would have to buy them, hence my offer for doing so.
Thanks to Rodney I have now seen the stamps and know what the paintings
are..But I appreciate your note :-)

Mette

"Franz Heymann" wrote in message
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As with most of the wallpaper issued by Ras Al Khaima, Stanley Gibbons
refuses to allocate them catalogue numbers and has the following to
say about the series to which these stamps belong:

"The following stamps have either been issued in excess of postal
needs or have not been available to the public in reasonable
quantities at face value. Such stamps may later be given full listing
if there is evidence of regular postal use."

Franz

Have you a good explanation why Michel lists them? Have Michel editors
other, different criteria? If so, which ones?

And my last question: what means "in reasonable quantities"?

TIA.

Victor Manta

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"Victor Manta" wrote in message
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"Franz Heymann" wrote in message
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As with most of the wallpaper issued by Ras Al Khaima, Stanley
Gibbons
refuses to allocate them catalogue numbers and has the following
to
say about the series to which these stamps belong:

"The following stamps have either been issued in excess of postal
needs or have not been available to the public in reasonable
quantities at face value. Such stamps may later be given full
listing
if there is evidence of regular postal use."

Franz

Have you a good explanation why Michel lists them?

No. I have no interest in what Michel has to say. SG is a
sufficiently detailed catalogue for an all-world collector.

Have Michel editors
other, different criteria?

Obviously, if they do list them. I presume that was a rhetorical
question.

If so, which ones?

I have no idea.

And my last question: what means "in reasonable quantities"?

I don't know in detail what SG means by "reasonable quantities".
Possibly they mean that the pieces of paper under discussion were not
freely available for sale at ordinary post office counters. I am
mindful of the fact that in the case of a substantial number of small
nnew countries which want to have a slice of the pie, their stamps are
prinyted in the UK and go directly to the selling agents without ever
having set foot in the issuing country. (That is, if those pieces of
papers have feet to set somewhere)

I don't think one needs to go into too much detail about the wording
in SG. It is quite obvious, from the fact that one hardly ever sees
those pieces of fancy paper in anything other than mint or CTO form,
that they are produced simply in order to take money from suckers.

Franz

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I have no idea.

Neither do I :-)

And my last question: what means "in reasonable quantities"?

I don't know in detail what SG means by "reasonable quantities".
Possibly they mean that the pieces of paper under discussion were not
freely available for sale at ordinary post office counters. I am
mindful of the fact that in the case of a substantial number of small
nnew countries which want to have a slice of the pie, their stamps are
prinyted in the UK and go directly to the selling agents without ever
having set foot in the issuing country. (That is, if those pieces of
papers have feet to set somewhere)

I don't think one needs to go into too much detail about the wording
in SG. It is quite obvious, from the fact that one hardly ever sees
those pieces of fancy paper in anything other than mint or CTO form,
that they are produced simply in order to take money from suckers.

Franz

Sorry, but I think that this wording is important for those many collectors
who could be interested in such stamps (btw, to whom I don't belong) and in
their seriousness.

Is SG consistent? I have many doubts. What I don't really understand isn't
why the "Dune states" have such a bad reputation (that, IMHO, they fully
deserve), and for this reason aren't listed in SG, but why countries like
Cook Island, etc., that are fully listed in SG, are apparently considered
muuuuch more serious.

Let's take for example Cook Islands 1987(19 Oct) - 1989, SG Nos 446 etc.
optd or surch., O16-O31, Set of 16 mint 26.00, CTO 15.00 (££££!).

"These stamps were originally only sold to the public cancelled-to-order and
not in unused condition. They were made available to _overseas_ (my
underscoring) collectors in mint condition during 1980" (SG Stamp Catalogue,
Part 1, British Commonwealth 1991 Edition).

Aren't these ones "pieces of fancy paper in anything other than mint or CTO
form, that they are produced simply in order to take money from suckers"
too? That's why I just wonder what makes them so different when compared to
the Dunes issues.

Victor Manta

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"Victor Manta" wrote

Let's take for example Cook Islands 1987(19 Oct) - 1989, SG Nos 446 etc.
optd or surch., O16-O31, Set of 16 mint 26.00, CTO 15.00 (££££!).

"These stamps were originally only sold to the public cancelled-to-order
and not in unused condition. They were made available to _overseas_ (my
underscoring) collectors in mint condition during 1980" (SG Stamp
Catalogue, Part 1, British Commonwealth 1991 Edition).

Aren't these ones "pieces of fancy paper in anything other than mint or
CTO form, that they are produced simply in order to take money from
suckers" too? That's why I just wonder what makes them so different when
compared to the Dunes issues.

The important phrase here is "sold to the public". These stamps
were intended for use on official correspondence only and initially,
as in many other countries, were not sold to the general public
over the counter. (Otherwise why have official stamps in the
first place?)