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I can't believe no one posted anything on this. What? Were you guys all waiting for me? (New $100 Bill Images) (I wonder if a new $500 bill would be similar)
"Jerry Dennis" wrote in message ... .... Gotta jump in here. I saw on the news last night that the Washington Crossing State Park in PA (across the river from Trenton NJ) is closed due to lack of State funding. Without sounding like a radical (left or right), national parks may not be too far behind. Maybe a quarter with a sign that reads "Closed" on the reverse would be a good choice for the next eleven years. Then we wouldn't have to worry about changing designs for a while. And from the "If This Goes On" department: When the budget cuts get bad enough, look for someone to start counterpunching "CLOSED" on the reverse of Lincoln Memorial cents, Monticello nickels, etc. and stamping the same on the reverse of most currency bills. You'll know it's time to think of emigrating when it starts happening to JFK halves. |
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I can't believe no one posted anything on this. What? Were youguys all waiting for me? (New $100 Bill Images) (I wonder if a new $500 billwould be similar)
On May 1, 10:08*am, Jerry Dennis wrote:
Gotta jump in here. *I saw on the news last night that the Washington Crossing State Park in PA (across the river from Trenton NJ) is closed due to lack of State funding. *Without sounding like a radical (left or right), national parks may not be too far behind. *Maybe a quarter with a sign that reads "Closed" on the reverse would be a good choice for the next eleven years. *Then we wouldn't have to worry about changing designs for a while. Jerry Worse than that, there are a number of road side rest areas here that are closed due to lack of funding. Unfortunately, there are 2 of them on a stretch of road where I often feel the 'call of nature'. Jud -crossing legs, humming loudly and tapping foot- |
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I can't believe no one posted anything on this. What? Were you guys all waiting for me? (New $100 Bill Images) (I wonder if a new $500 bill would be similar)
"Jud" wrote in message ... On May 1, 10:08 am, Jerry Dennis wrote: Gotta jump in here. I saw on the news last night that the Washington Crossing State Park in PA (across the river from Trenton NJ) is closed due to lack of State funding. Without sounding like a radical (left or right), national parks may not be too far behind. Maybe a quarter with a sign that reads "Closed" on the reverse would be a good choice for the next eleven years. Then we wouldn't have to worry about changing designs for a while. Jerry Worse than that, there are a number of road side rest areas here that are closed due to lack of funding. Unfortunately, there are 2 of them on a stretch of road where I often feel the 'call of nature'. Jud -crossing legs, humming loudly and tapping foot- ======== I don't know if you're referring to Virginia, but VA proposed closing all rest stops on interstate highways near built up areas. They figured families could exit at gas stations and McDonalds to take care of business. Fortunately, they later did an about face on this issue, perhaps after someone described what it would look like with dozens of groaning semis navigating for parking at each interchange oasis of fast food joints just to take a whiz. In a similar move, our VA county-- one of the wealthiest in the country-- proposed closing all bathrooms at county athletic and park complexes as a cost-saving measure. No need to elaborate on how many citizens with valid and obvious concerns showed up at the county hearing. The county supervisors looked up and away like scolded dogs and magically found a source of funds to cover the bathrooms. |
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I can't believe no one posted anything on this. What? Were you guys all waiting for me? (New $100 Bill Images) (I wonder if a new $500 bill would be similar)
Bruce Remick wrote:
"Mike Dworetsky" wrote in message ... Drago the Wolf wrote: http://www.mydollarplan.com/new-100-dollar-bill/ I was a little disappointed with the back of the new $100 at first, because I thought the low-vision numeral would be similar to the $10, $20 and $50's, but now I grew to love both sides of the new $100 bill and the $100 is now by far, my favorite of this series. What sucks is, it is being released on Febuary 10 of 2011. I wonder why so long, because they are likely just about to release the next generation of U.S. currency. If the U.S. currency is going to be redesigned every 7-10 years, 2011 when the new $100 bill comes out will be 9 years since 2003, when the new colorized $20 bill came out, so, following the release of the new $100 bill in 2011, we may be hearing more about one of the already colorized denominations getting a redesign again the following year in 2012, the 10 year mark. I have heard a few things about the governement possibly changing the size of all denomination paper money and probably the designs a bit too, except the $1 and $2 bills. This really bothers me seeing as, I live in a family of people with poor vision, and my mother can hardly see without glasses, and has a hard time telling $1 and $2 bills apart without her glasses unless they are right in her face. I myself am 20/400 vision in both eyes and can see all right, but am supposed to wear glasses full time, but I only wear them when I drive or watch tv. I just can't read things in the distance, but, in the future I may depend on a different sized $2 bill. So I don't see why, if the government does not want to redesign or change the size of the $1 bill, thats is all fine and dandy with me, but if all other denominations are getting a redesign, as well as a resize, redesign the damn $2 bill. I DO NOT want them to just stop printing $2s, I just want them redesigned to make them more usable for those who use them. Everything else, including the half dollar coin has a distinguishible feature for the blind and visually impaired: its size. So, if the $1 and $2 bills remain the same size, and all other denominations will change in size, the $2 bill would still be discrimitory against the blind and visually impaired. Perhaps I should write THAT in a letter to my government officials. Regarding vision-impaired users and bank notes, the USA has finally taken a lesson from the UK which has had bank notes of different sizes for different denominations for decades. Similarly for the euro. I wish they would just get rid of the rag $1 and $2 bucks. Unfortunately, in the testimony I read, no denomination was considered to be replaced with a coin, which is a real shame, because they could really make a nice $2 coin distinguishible for the blind. Much the same sentimentality was widely expressed in the UK 28 years ago when the pound note was replaced by the pound coin. There was a lot of opposition to doing away with it; you would have thought they were proposing to murder babies or something. For some reason (presumably there were thought to be votes in it) politicians in the USA were opposed to replacement of the $1 by a coin, and when you did get one it looked like a quarter. Eventually that was fixed, except that apparently the note and coin circulate side by side. The average life of a circulating $1 note must be a few weeks at most. There are still 1983 1 pound coins circulating in the UK. The coin is far cheaper to make when you factor in the lifetime factor. The paper note is made from a renewable source while clad metal coins are not. How much money would really be saved by eliminating the $1 bill while continuing to print $2, $5, $10, $20, $50, and $100 bills? Plus millions of unused $1 coins. So far, no need for the expense of a security redesign of the $1 bill either. BTW, are the latest plastic bills made from oil? It's not the material cost of the ingredients that is an unnecessary expense, but the cost of making new ones at frequent intervals. It costs far more to print money than to come up with the raw materials, expecially if you replace them every few weeks (people to choose notes for retirement, furnaces, presses, plates, cutting machines, people to handle the notes and package them for banks, etc). I understand that the UK saved substantial costs by changing completely to minting £1 and £2 coins (there was never a £2 note), eliminating the need for low denomination paper. The coins are fully accepted now and have been since shortly after introduction. Let me check, are $2 notes now regularly used in circulation? In the US, there likely are loads of one dollar coins remaining in storage from 1979 that won't circulate largely because people don't care to use them. Nowadays, people don't handle coins often enough for them to wear out. Fifty years ago, it was common to receive well worn coins in change. Today it's common to find fifty-year-old coins showing minimal wear among your change, coins that would likely last another fifty years. Cash is gradually on its way out but I think it will be a while yet. Those coins were unattractive (and could be mistaken for a quarter). -- Mike Dworetsky (Remove pants sp*mbl*ck to reply) |
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I can't believe no one posted anything on this. What? Were you guys all waiting for me? (New $100 Bill Images) (I wonder if a new $500 bill would be similar)
"Mike Dworetsky" wrote in message ... Bruce Remick wrote: "Mike Dworetsky" wrote in message ... Drago the Wolf wrote: http://www.mydollarplan.com/new-100-dollar-bill/ I was a little disappointed with the back of the new $100 at first, because I thought the low-vision numeral would be similar to the $10, $20 and $50's, but now I grew to love both sides of the new $100 bill and the $100 is now by far, my favorite of this series. What sucks is, it is being released on Febuary 10 of 2011. I wonder why so long, because they are likely just about to release the next generation of U.S. currency. If the U.S. currency is going to be redesigned every 7-10 years, 2011 when the new $100 bill comes out will be 9 years since 2003, when the new colorized $20 bill came out, so, following the release of the new $100 bill in 2011, we may be hearing more about one of the already colorized denominations getting a redesign again the following year in 2012, the 10 year mark. I have heard a few things about the governement possibly changing the size of all denomination paper money and probably the designs a bit too, except the $1 and $2 bills. This really bothers me seeing as, I live in a family of people with poor vision, and my mother can hardly see without glasses, and has a hard time telling $1 and $2 bills apart without her glasses unless they are right in her face. I myself am 20/400 vision in both eyes and can see all right, but am supposed to wear glasses full time, but I only wear them when I drive or watch tv. I just can't read things in the distance, but, in the future I may depend on a different sized $2 bill. So I don't see why, if the government does not want to redesign or change the size of the $1 bill, thats is all fine and dandy with me, but if all other denominations are getting a redesign, as well as a resize, redesign the damn $2 bill. I DO NOT want them to just stop printing $2s, I just want them redesigned to make them more usable for those who use them. Everything else, including the half dollar coin has a distinguishible feature for the blind and visually impaired: its size. So, if the $1 and $2 bills remain the same size, and all other denominations will change in size, the $2 bill would still be discrimitory against the blind and visually impaired. Perhaps I should write THAT in a letter to my government officials. Regarding vision-impaired users and bank notes, the USA has finally taken a lesson from the UK which has had bank notes of different sizes for different denominations for decades. Similarly for the euro. I wish they would just get rid of the rag $1 and $2 bucks. Unfortunately, in the testimony I read, no denomination was considered to be replaced with a coin, which is a real shame, because they could really make a nice $2 coin distinguishible for the blind. Much the same sentimentality was widely expressed in the UK 28 years ago when the pound note was replaced by the pound coin. There was a lot of opposition to doing away with it; you would have thought they were proposing to murder babies or something. For some reason (presumably there were thought to be votes in it) politicians in the USA were opposed to replacement of the $1 by a coin, and when you did get one it looked like a quarter. Eventually that was fixed, except that apparently the note and coin circulate side by side. The average life of a circulating $1 note must be a few weeks at most. There are still 1983 1 pound coins circulating in the UK. The coin is far cheaper to make when you factor in the lifetime factor. The paper note is made from a renewable source while clad metal coins are not. How much money would really be saved by eliminating the $1 bill while continuing to print $2, $5, $10, $20, $50, and $100 bills? Plus millions of unused $1 coins. So far, no need for the expense of a security redesign of the $1 bill either. BTW, are the latest plastic bills made from oil? It's not the material cost of the ingredients that is an unnecessary expense, but the cost of making new ones at frequent intervals. It costs far more to print money than to come up with the raw materials, expecially if you replace them every few weeks (people to choose notes for retirement, furnaces, presses, plates, cutting machines, people to handle the notes and package them for banks, etc). I understand that the UK saved substantial costs by changing completely to minting £1 and £2 coins (there was never a £2 note), eliminating the need for low denomination paper. The coins are fully accepted now and have been since shortly after introduction. I would expect the savings from dropping the $1 bill to be minimal, considering that BEP will still be printing five or six other denominations on the same presses. People will still be required to choose higher denomination notes for retirement and all the other things that go with paper money. It's hard for me to accept that in the real world the dollar bill only lasts a few weeks. This is an "average" that seldom matches reality. Obviously, a dollar coin will survive in circulation much longer than a dollar bill. I have no doubt that if the bill were eliminated, the dollar coin would circulate much more widely than it does now. My doubts lie mostly with the oft predicted great savings achieved by dropping the dollar bill per se. Let me check, are $2 notes now regularly used in circulation? Do banks have them? Many do and will provide them if asked. Will you ever receive one in change? Highly unlikely. Are $2 notes regularly used in circulation? No. In the US, there likely are loads of one dollar coins remaining in storage from 1979 that won't circulate largely because people don't care to use them. Nowadays, people don't handle coins often enough for them to wear out. Fifty years ago, it was common to receive well worn coins in change. Today it's common to find fifty-year-old coins showing minimal wear among your change, coins that would likely last another fifty years. Cash is gradually on its way out but I think it will be a while yet. Those coins were unattractive (and could be mistaken for a quarter). Mike, I think that's one liklihood that the government seems to be ignoring. Dollar coins may never wear out because they won't be handled as much in the future as some might presume. The widely-used (clad) quarter has been around for almost fifty years yet you will rarely encounter a truly worn one. You're just as apt to receive a 1965 as a 2005 in change. As inflation continues and prices rise accordingly, and with increased use of non-cash methods of payment, the need for small denomination coins should continue to become less of a factor. |
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I can't believe no one posted anything on this. What? Were youguys all waiting for me? (New $100 Bill Images) (I wonder if a new $500 billwould be similar)
Today's Video Take a look at the high-tech, newly redesigned $100 bill. http://whoknew.news.yahoo.com/?vid=18555857 john On Apr 29, 11:05 pm, Drago the Wolf wrote: http://www.mydollarplan.com/new-100-dollar-bill/ I was a little disappointed with the back of the new $100 at first, because I thought the low-vision numeral would be similar to the $10, $20 and $50's, but now I grew to love both sides of the new $100 bill and the $100 is now by far, my favorite of this series. What sucks is, it is being released on Febuary 10 of 2011. I wonder why so long, because they are likely just about to release the next generation of U.S. currency. If the U.S. currency is going to be redesigned every 7-10 years, 2011 when the new $100 bill comes out will be 9 years since 2003, when the new colorized $20 bill came out, so, following the release of the new $100 bill in 2011, we may be hearing more about one of the already colorized denominations getting a redesign again the following year in 2012, the 10 year mark. I have heard a few things about the governement possibly changing the size of all denomination paper money and probably the designs a bit too, except the $1 and $2 bills. This really bothers me seeing as, I live in a family of people with poor vision, and my mother can hardly see without glasses, and has a hard time telling $1 and $2 bills apart without her glasses unless they are right in her face. I myself am 20/400 vision in both eyes and can see all right, but am supposed to wear glasses full time, but I only wear them when I drive or watch tv. I just can't read things in the distance, but, in the future I may depend on a different sized $2 bill. So I don't see why, if the government does not want to redesign or change the size of the $1 bill, thats is all fine and dandy with me, but if all other denominations are getting a redesign, as well as a resize, redesign the damn $2 bill. I DO NOT want them to just stop printing $2s, I just want them redesigned to make them more usable for those who use them. Everything else, including the half dollar coin has a distinguishible feature for the blind and visually impaired: its size. So, if the $1 and $2 bills remain the same size, and all other denominations will change in size, the $2 bill would still be discrimitory against the blind and visually impaired. Perhaps I should write THAT in a letter to my government officials. I wish they would just get rid of the rag $1 and $2 bucks. Unfortunately, in the testimony I read, no denomination was considered to be replaced with a coin, which is a real shame, because they could really make a nice $2 coin distinguishible for the blind. |
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I can't believe no one posted anything on this. What? Were youguys all waiting for me? (New $100 Bill Images) (I wonder if a new $500 billwould be similar)
So exactly what do you think is "unpresentable" and "distasteful" about our coins? *I understand that many collectors have become bored with what they consider "tired" designs on our circulating coinage, but your words indicate a much stronger feeling on your part. I personally just find the presidential dollars too be ugly. Its like mint didn't even try when they had some make the art for these. They should have stuck with just the Sac dollars. Why is it the Mint's fault that you're not receiving dollar coins? *It produces millions of them each year and distributes them to the various regions. *Why not blame merchants who never request any for their cash registers? *Or the banks that don't bother including them in change unless specifically asked. *I will agree that the designs on the dollar coins leave me cold, but then the only time I ever see any are when I glance at my annual proof and mint sets for damage. Its not about me not getting the presidential, but everyone. They have decided that now that banks no longer have to except these new coins, although they want too sell too the collectors above face value, why not give us "the collectors" the same deal they give the banks for coins. I find the $8.95 for 2 rolls of cents that are mint for circulation in the first place it ridiculous. Now we are suppose too collect these new coins also at a premium. I think its about time for a new director. The designs on our coins have nothing to do with "what our country is capable of". *The committees that select the artists and sculptors and critique their coin design proposals should be the subject of your scorn, along with the Congress that decides what will be produced. *Although I majored in fine arts in college, I would have a hard time figuring how to render a national park on a quarter. I think all of the above should change. Let the people pick what they want on the coins. This is still a free country of choice and options right? |
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I can't believe no one posted anything on this. What? Were you guys all waiting for me? (New $100 Bill Images) (I wonder if a new $500 bill would be similar)
"sgt23" wrote in message ... So exactly what do you think is "unpresentable" and "distasteful" about our coins? I understand that many collectors have become bored with what they consider "tired" designs on our circulating coinage, but your words indicate a much stronger feeling on your part. I personally just find the presidential dollars too be ugly. Its like mint didn't even try when they had some make the art for these. They should have stuck with just the Sac dollars. ============ Others probably feel the same way, but that doesn't make the coins unpresentable or distasteful. ============ Why is it the Mint's fault that you're not receiving dollar coins? It produces millions of them each year and distributes them to the various regions. Why not blame merchants who never request any for their cash registers? Or the banks that don't bother including them in change unless specifically asked. I will agree that the designs on the dollar coins leave me cold, but then the only time I ever see any are when I glance at my annual proof and mint sets for damage. Its not about me not getting the presidential, but everyone. They have decided that now that banks no longer have to except these new coins, although they want too sell too the collectors above face value, why not give us "the collectors" the same deal they give the banks for coins. I find the $8.95 for 2 rolls of cents that are mint for circulation in the first place it ridiculous. Now we are suppose too collect these new coins also at a premium. I think its about time for a new director. =========== Who is "they"? Most banks take in the denominations that best serve their local customers. The fact that the banks can't readily obtain BU solid rolls of the latest Lincolns you want at face value isn't necessarily a conspiracy, although the Mint (or somebody) does manage to distribute solid BU rolls of each new presidential dollar to banks that want them. I'm sure that if you can be patient, you'll be able to find new pennies at a much cheaper price. Remember though, no one says you're "supposed to" collect anything you don't want to. =========== .. The designs on our coins have nothing to do with "what our country is capable of". The committees that select the artists and sculptors and critique their coin design proposals should be the subject of your scorn, along with the Congress that decides what will be produced. Although I majored in fine arts in college, I would have a hard time figuring how to render a national park on a quarter. I think all of the above should change. Let the people pick what they want on the coins. This is still a free country of choice and options right? ============ Ugh! Then we'd face what stamp collectors face. No thanks. |
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I can't believe no one posted anything on this. What? Were youguys all waiting for me? (New $100 Bill Images) (I wonder if a new $500 billwould be similar)
On May 4, 8:05*am, "Bruce Remick" wrote:
"sgt23" wrote in message ... So exactly what do you think is "unpresentable" and "distasteful" about our coins? I understand that many collectors have become bored with what they consider "tired" designs on our circulating coinage, but your words indicate a much stronger feeling on your part. I personally just find the presidential dollars too be ugly. Its like mint didn't even try when they had some make the art for these. They should have stuck with just the Sac dollars. ============ Others probably feel the same way, but that doesn't make the coins unpresentable or distasteful. ============ Why is it the Mint's fault that you're not receiving dollar coins? It produces millions of them each year and distributes them to the various regions. Why not blame merchants who never request any for their cash registers? Or the banks that don't bother including them in change unless specifically asked. I will agree that the designs on the dollar coins leave me cold, but then the only time I ever see any are when I glance at my annual proof and mint sets for damage. Its not about me not getting the presidential, but everyone. They have decided that now that banks no longer have to except these new coins, although they want too sell too the collectors above face value, why not give us "the collectors" the same deal they give the banks for coins. I find the $8.95 for 2 rolls of cents that are mint for circulation in the first place it ridiculous. Now we are suppose too collect these new coins also at a premium. I think its about time for a new director. =========== Who is "they"? * Most banks take in the denominations that best serve their local customers. *The fact that the banks can't readily obtain BU solid rolls of the latest Lincolns you want at face value isn't necessarily a conspiracy, although the Mint (or somebody) does manage to distribute solid BU rolls of each new presidential dollar to banks that want them. I'm sure that if you can be patient, you'll be able to find new pennies at a much cheaper price. *Remember though, no one says you're "supposed to" collect anything you don't want to. =========== . The designs on our coins have nothing to do with "what our country is capable of". The committees that select the artists and sculptors and critique their coin design proposals should be the subject of your scorn, along with the Congress that decides what will be produced. Although I majored in fine arts in college, I would have a hard time figuring how to render a national park on a quarter. I think all of the above should change. Let the people pick what they want on the coins. This is still a free country of choice and options right? ============ Ugh! *Then we'd face what stamp collectors face. *No thanks. I agree we don't wanna go through that, but with the good money we spend (I hope it's still good, they do make some of it still) on these coins. We should demand better, just my opinion! |
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I can't believe no one posted anything on this. What? Were you guys all waiting for me? (New $100 Bill Images) (I wonder if a new $500 bill would be similar)
"sgt23" wrote in message ... On May 4, 8:05 am, "Bruce Remick" wrote: "sgt23" wrote in message ... So exactly what do you think is "unpresentable" and "distasteful" about our coins? I understand that many collectors have become bored with what they consider "tired" designs on our circulating coinage, but your words indicate a much stronger feeling on your part. I personally just find the presidential dollars too be ugly. Its like mint didn't even try when they had some make the art for these. They should have stuck with just the Sac dollars. ============ Others probably feel the same way, but that doesn't make the coins unpresentable or distasteful. ============ Why is it the Mint's fault that you're not receiving dollar coins? It produces millions of them each year and distributes them to the various regions. Why not blame merchants who never request any for their cash registers? Or the banks that don't bother including them in change unless specifically asked. I will agree that the designs on the dollar coins leave me cold, but then the only time I ever see any are when I glance at my annual proof and mint sets for damage. Its not about me not getting the presidential, but everyone. They have decided that now that banks no longer have to except these new coins, although they want too sell too the collectors above face value, why not give us "the collectors" the same deal they give the banks for coins. I find the $8.95 for 2 rolls of cents that are mint for circulation in the first place it ridiculous. Now we are suppose too collect these new coins also at a premium. I think its about time for a new director. =========== Who is "they"? Most banks take in the denominations that best serve their local customers. The fact that the banks can't readily obtain BU solid rolls of the latest Lincolns you want at face value isn't necessarily a conspiracy, although the Mint (or somebody) does manage to distribute solid BU rolls of each new presidential dollar to banks that want them. I'm sure that if you can be patient, you'll be able to find new pennies at a much cheaper price. Remember though, no one says you're "supposed to" collect anything you don't want to. =========== . The designs on our coins have nothing to do with "what our country is capable of". The committees that select the artists and sculptors and critique their coin design proposals should be the subject of your scorn, along with the Congress that decides what will be produced. Although I majored in fine arts in college, I would have a hard time figuring how to render a national park on a quarter. I think all of the above should change. Let the people pick what they want on the coins. This is still a free country of choice and options right? ============ Ugh! Then we'd face what stamp collectors face. No thanks. I agree we don't wanna go through that, but with the good money we spend (I hope it's still good, they do make some of it still) on these coins. We should demand better, just my opinion! ========== Keep in mind, for most people money is simply for spending, not as a work of art. When was the last time you paused to admire, or even notice, the stamp on a letter sent to you? |
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