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Old November 21st 03, 11:10 AM
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collecting mound culture artifacts is popular but controversial.

Why controversial?



Some people consider it a form of grave
robbing.
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Old November 22nd 03, 04:49 AM
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In Nacogdoches (the oldest town in Texas) we have a street named Mound
Street for at one time it had 50 or so mounds along its course. Alas, there
is only one remaining mound on this street. Nac was a center of the Caddoan
mound building civilization prior to arrival of European influence (Spanish
and French in the 1500's).

And, yes, it IS grave robbing... As curious as we may be about a prior
culture, how would we like it if some other 'civilization', being curious
about us, desired to excavate Washington's grave or even JFK's grave...

Jay in Garrison, Nacogdoches County, TX
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collecting mound culture artifacts is popular but controversial.


Why controversial?



Some people consider it a form of grave
robbing.



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Old November 22nd 03, 02:53 PM
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"whohah" wrote:

And, yes, it IS grave robbing... As curious as we may be about a prior
culture, how would we like it if some other 'civilization', being curious
about us, desired to excavate Washington's grave or even JFK's grave...


The analogy that stuck with me was this: How would you like it if the
Egyptians came here and excavated your local cemetary for the buttons
from clothing that people were buried it?

JFK, Tutankhamen, Julius Caesar,... the problem has a lot more to do
with Grandpa and Great-Grandma.

And it is a "problem" specifically because the people in these places
now really do not care about who was in these places way back when and
if you want to pay them now in ready money now they will look the
other way as you dig up yesterday's remains.

And as long as we are drifted off topic ... How far away from the
find site do you have to be to have claim to its culural context? IN
other words, the people who live on these formerly glorious ancient
sites often live some place away from the old sites. The people there
now are often descended from other people who came later. It gets
fuzzy fast. And for me, it is important because like all of us here,
I also collect the materials. If the people there do not appreciate
them, am I not allowed to?

And who are these people? As noted the actual and real people on the
land are disinterested and the faraway intellectuals and generals at
the National Capital want to see their reflections clothed in faded
glory. (The great Mall of History is where we all hang out, I guess.)
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Old November 22nd 03, 03:38 PM
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It gets
fuzzy fast. And for me, it is important because like all of us here,
I also collect the materials. If the people there do not appreciate
them, am I not allowed to?



It is complex. We don't really know what
the people even called themselves. Terms
such as Adena, Hopewell and Mississippian were applied by researchers
and scientists in order to classify the
distinct cultural differences between the
different periods of moundbuilding.

A number of the mounds are still around,
especially in Ohio and parts of Illinois.
They are now protected historic sites.
A great many were destroyed by farmers
clearing fields and by treasure seekers
from the past.

The largest mound complex in North
America is located 8 miles west of
St. Louis. It was a large ceremony
center with a huge mound still visible from
the freeway that goes past the site.
It was occupied from approx. 800-1300
AD and may have had 10,000 or more
people living there at one time.





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Old November 22nd 03, 04:01 PM
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The largest mound complex in North
America is located 8 miles west of
St. Louis.



Correction. That should be 8 miles
east of St. Louis.
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Old November 24th 03, 05:48 PM
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"Alan D." wrote
1. Guatemala (image of Tikal)
2. Mexico (Chichenitza, Palenque or such)
3. Peru (Machu Picchu)


And moving right along...

Cambodia had ANGKOR WAT on several notes over the years, the 100, 200
and 500 units (Riels? is that right?)

How about the Great Pyramid on the US $1? Does that count?
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Old November 24th 03, 10:31 PM
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I think I have seen Stonehenge on a
piece of paper money. It would seem
natural that it would be a UK note but
I'm not sure.
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Old November 25th 03, 12:18 AM
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IIRC, Zimbabwe has a note with a scene of, what to my western eyes, appears
to be a pile of rocks which is evidently the site of an important cultural
place of antiquity. I can't remember just exactly what the significance is;
however, it probably is the equivalent of Mt. Vernon or the Coliseum or
other similarWestern European site.

Again, IIRC, doesn't Malta have the oldest known standing rock structures
illustrated on their currency? I mean still standing in the original site
without being 're-created' .

In Nacogdoches, Texas, the county seat of my county, there is an 'authentic'
replica of something called the 'Old Stone Fort.' It is presently on the
campus of Stephen F. Austin State University. It consists of possibly some
of the rocks actually in the original stone house which was built in the
late 1700's in what is now downtown Nacogdoches along the Old Spanish
Trail. The original structure was demolished in the very early 1900's, many
of the rocks being used as building material for locals to scavenge. Then,
later, a one-story version of the old stone house [as it was sometimes
called] was built on the main Nacogdoches school campus, a site about 3
blocks north of the original location of the thing. Then in 1936, as a part
of the celebration of the Texas Centennial, is was again rebuilt on the SFA
campus...hopefully using some of the original rocks...

Nope, it doesn't appear on any currency...

Just my $0.02 worth...

Jay in Garrison, TX
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"JSTONE9352" wrote in message
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I think I have seen Stonehenge on a
piece of paper money. It would seem
natural that it would be a UK note but
I'm not sure.



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Old November 25th 03, 01:31 AM
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IIRC, Zimbabwe has a note with a scene of, what to my western eyes, appears
to be a pile of rocks which is evidently the site of an important cultural
place of antiquity. I can't remember just exactly what the significance is;
however, it probably is the equivalent of Mt. Vernon or the Coliseum or
other similarWestern European site.

Again, IIRC, doesn't Malta have the oldest known standing rock structures
illustrated on their currency? I mean still standing in the original site
without being 're-created' .

In Nacogdoches, Texas, the county seat of my county, there is an 'authentic'
replica of something called the 'Old Stone Fort.' It is presently on the
campus of Stephen F. Austin State University. It consists of possibly some
of the rocks actually in the original stone house which was built in the
late 1700's in what is now downtown Nacogdoches along the Old Spanish
Trail. The original structure was demolished in the very early 1900's, many
of the rocks being used as building material for locals to scavenge. Then,
later, a one-story version of the old stone house [as it was sometimes
called] was built on the main Nacogdoches school campus, a site about 3
blocks north of the original location of the thing. Then in 1936, as a part
of the celebration of the Texas Centennial, is was again rebuilt on the SFA
campus...hopefully using some of the original rocks...

Nope, it doesn't appear on any currency...

Just my $0.02 worth...

Jay in Garrison, TX
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"JSTONE9352" wrote in message
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I think I have seen Stonehenge on a
piece of paper money. It would seem
natural that it would be a UK note but
I'm not sure.




It is called "The Great Zimbabwe" and

is what is left of a civilization that
flourished around 800-1200 AD (I think)

Legend has it that the ruler lived in a
cave in a nearby mountain and communicated with his subjects by
echos that bounced off the cave walls
to his subjects outside. Nobody was
allowed to see the ruler as the penalty
was instant death.






 




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