How to get rid of an eBay fraudster

On Feb 21, 11:10 pm, Kurt wrote:
In article . com,

"duty-honor-country" wrote:

Both the 78 Honda Civic and Accord were highly decent cars.
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are you f-ing nuts ? a Honda is a ****box, in 1978, and today. You
must have a Japper mentality.

people fought and died to keep that junk out of this country- where's
your common sense ?

LOL. You must be too young around then. US Cars were complete crap in
'78. Mid 70s to mid 80s were the worst years ever for US auto quality.
Common sense says stop blaming others for our own shortcomings.
Set the example by leading, not whining. US cars are much better now,
but still getting our asses kicked by industry arrogance and lack of
innovation.

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bull****- find a 1978 Trans Am with 4-speed and 400 engine and tell me
that's complete crap

or a 78 Vette, or Cadillac, or Lincoln

are you saying an f-ing 78 Honda is a more upscale ride ?

yeh, right !

most likely you bought a piece of **** American car, because you don't
know the diff between a good car or bad car- and you paint that wide
brush on all American cars

On Feb 21, 11:53 pm, Tony Cooper wrote:
On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 10:21:47 +1000, Salty wrote:
duty-honor-country wrote:
Claims that they were
dominant in the seventies and eighties. As I recall they were popular in
the sixties and had died by the early seventies.

He seems to have a lot in common with you, I can see why he is on your
radar. A wacko full of misinformation.

Salty

well you're wrong there- 8-tracks were available in store until 1983,
and available through mail order clubs until 1988-89

I did not make any comment on availability, I said that they were
"popular" in the sixties and that popularity had died by the early
seventies.

I don't think the popularity of 8-track died by the early 70s. I'd
put it at the mid-70s. I had a 1973 (purchased in mid-1973)Chevvy
Nova with an 8-track player, and kept it for about three years. I had
no trouble buying 8-tracks while I had the car.

You can quibble on "the most popular" form of recorded delivery, but
8-tracks hung in longer than you give them credit as a popular system.

Read it a again. You are so obsessive in your defence of





technology that was old and tired by the early seventies that you don't
seem to notice the difference between available and popular.

You could still buy B&W televisions in those days too. Are you going to
tell that they were popular simply because they were available? Colour
was popular, B&W was what you accepted if you couldn't afford colour.
The same with eight tracks.

I had in laws who owned a Hi-Fi business in the late seventies and
certainly did not have any new model Eight Track *players* offered by
distributors after the early seventies. The fact that the cartridges
were continued for some time to service an existing market has little to
do with popularity. I did not see them offered as standard in new cars
after '71/'72, and I have always changed my car at least every two years.

most people in the late-1970's still had 8-track players in their cars
and homes as well

Most People? Absolute garbage. By the early seventies car cassette and
cassette radio combination players were common, not eight tracks. If you
wanted to purchase a new car with an eight track you had to order it
specifically. It wasn't a standard option as there was already enormous
difficulty in finding new release songs on eight track. You had to "burn
your own" for modern music.

you either are too young to know better, or too old to remember
clearly

Neither.

My very first new car (aged seventeen - graduation present) had an eight
track, all subsequent cars had radio/cassette players. I was unhappy
about the limitations of the eight track and replaced it with a car
cassette player in 1970. It was a second hand Panasonic player taken
from a three year old wreck. I was quite pleased with it.

My last eight track was a combination unit built into an Akai reel to
reel recorder. It didn't see much use. I still have it.

Regards

Salty

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good post- we were cruising in our AMERICAN cars and trucks, while in
high school- and everyone had 8-TRACK DECKS, that that was 1975-80
time period.

I remember ONE GUY had a cassette deck, and he was driving a VW bug !

(laughter...)

friggin car didn't even have a working heater, he would be scraping
the INSIDE of the windows to get the frost off...

TOYOTAS and HONDAS were notorious ROT BOXES. The floors fell out of
them.

On Feb 22, 2:06 am, DeserTBoB wrote:
EBay accounts:

coolsitesnsounds
quad-dubber
66fourdoor

All trace back to:

Charles M. Nudo, Jr.
Drums, PA

So, to deflect scrutiny on himself, he goes and posts two accounts
that HE had killed for trumped up "transaction interference"
reasons...typical of fleaBay to back up a fraudster/petty crook like
this one.

The record tells it all. Take time to research, or shut up about it.




notice how DeserTBob scrambles for his friends to help him, when he's
cornered.

like the rat he is !

hey, phone guy, fix that phone wire...oooops, you're laid off now, no
more job for you !! time to fake an injury !

BWAHAHAHAHAHA !!

duty-honor-country wrote:
On Feb 21, 11:10 pm, Kurt wrote:
In article . com,

"duty-honor-country" wrote:

Both the 78 Honda Civic and Accord were highly decent cars.
--
are you f-ing nuts ? a Honda is a ****box, in 1978, and today. You
must have a Japper mentality.
people fought and died to keep that junk out of this country- where's
your common sense ?
LOL. You must be too young around then. US Cars were complete crap in
'78. Mid 70s to mid 80s were the worst years ever for US auto quality.
Common sense says stop blaming others for our own shortcomings.
Set the example by leading, not whining. US cars are much better now,
but still getting our asses kicked by industry arrogance and lack of
innovation.

--
To reply by email, remove the word "space"


bull****- find a 1978 Trans Am with 4-speed and 400 engine and tell me
that's complete crap

or a 78 Vette, or Cadillac, or Lincoln

are you saying an f-ing 78 Honda is a more upscale ride ?

yeh, right !

most likely you bought a piece of **** American car, because you don't
know the diff between a good car or bad car- and you paint that wide
brush on all American cars


Problems with the US Domestic Automotive industry were discussed by
Congress in that time period. The industry wanted protection from import
that had a level of quality and a price lower than they could match. I
suppose that Congress got involved simply because they had nothing
better to do. Don't blame it on cheap labour, Japan had and still has, a
cost of living higher than the US.

Do you know that Japan built Harley Davisons too? Many a HOG member will
deny that but it is true. A Japanese Harley from the fifties is a much
better machine than a US built one. Much better quality control.

Regards

Salty

duty-honor-country wrote:
On Feb 21, 9:09 pm, Salty wrote:
duty-honor-country wrote:
Both the 78 Honda Civic and Accord were highly decent cars.
--
are you f-ing nuts ? a Honda is a ****box, in 1978, and today. You
must have a Japper mentality.
people fought and died to keep that junk out of this country- where's
your common sense ?
I am surprised that you don't like the Japanese. Most of the Eight Track
systems that you are so enamored of were of Japanese origin. You do
realise that the Motorola Players (and most of the others) were made in
Japan? Quatron was about the only non-Asian manufacturer.

Regards

Salty

ever hear of Pearl Harbor and the Bataan Death March ?


Yes. I have spent a lot of time at Pearl.

And you point is? Or don't you have a point?


Regards

Salty

duty-honor-country wrote:


you're pretty sharp on tax law, but on the 8-track history is not
accurate
It is *absolutely* accurate.

I have a (legal) music collection that exceeds three thousand albums. I
have strong associations with two prominent '70's rock groups, and a
lifelong enthusiasm and appreciation for music. I know what was
available, I know what was popular (the area where you seem to be lost)
and I know what was not.



at our local high school here during 1975-80, nearly ALL the kids
drove cars with 8-track decks in them- cassette was considered
somewhat of a joke-
Our experiences differ. In my college days, a person with an eight track
in a late seventies car was considered old fashioned or blue
collar/trailer trash. Not sure why. Maybe because they were more common
in Pickups and Muscle cars. Maybe because as the supply of new eight
track albums dwindled, the few readily available seemed to focus on R&B,
country/bluegrass and old Rock&Roll, not contemporary music. Pickups and
Muscle cars certainly were around, but they weren't the "norm". Like it
or not, the norm with regard to music in the seventies was disco. Try to
find concurrent popular label disco releases on eight track during the
seventies. It was pretty much Cassette and Vinyl LP. Not many cartridges
in the music stores.



8-tracks still outsold cassettes by a far margin until 1983
Not so, not even close. By 1983 CDs were in play, cassettes were
approaching Vinyl sales and eight tracks were museum pieces. They had
stopped making the players several years earlier. There were no new
model/technology releases with players after 1975, and by that time they
were all Asian manufacture. Between 1979 and 1983 all of the major
labels had officially declared eight track formats no longer supported.
They had been dying for years, they didn't stop supporting them because
they were popular, they stopped supporting them because they were more
expensive, less reliable and not as popular as cassettes.

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dude, with all due respect, 8-track killed cassettes all through the
1970's for the average teenage rock fan- no one bought a cassette
deck, they appeared to be cheap and inferior-

You are not even close. I have a very comprehensive collection of music
related items, including annual merchant catalogues for most of the
sixties, seventies and eighties. They are from Virgin, A&M, RCA, Apple,
Mercury, Island, Capitol, Atlantic etc. They were sourced from the
inlaws who I previously mentioned who owned a small chain of HiFi &
Record stores from the sixties until the late eighties.

Let's take a year, 1975, that is about as Mid seventies as you can get.

Let's pick a month. June. Albums

We have the Stylistics, Elton John, Bay City Rollers, Wings, Carpenters,
10cc, Alice Cooper, Chicago, Doobie Bros, America, Jeff Beck, Bachman
Turner Overdrive, Earth Wind and Fire, Three Degrees, Kraftwerk, Tammy
Wynette, all charting.

According to their own statistics, averaged across the industry, eight
track sales accounted for less than eight percent of total sales
(7.91%). Cassettes made twenty-two percent. LP's the rest.

Where does "more popular than cassette" get a look in?

I think that it might have just appeared that way to you because it was
reflected in the personal tastes of the groups you moved in. It was not
supported by national or international sales. If it had been, no major
label would have dropped it, they are there to make money, not follow
trends.

Maybe the Major labels' own month by month sales figure releases to the
industry were wrong, but I somehow doubt it. By the early seventies
Rolling Stone (I have a full collection of their publications too.) was
also often scathing about eight track as a medium when compared to
advances in cassette technology for mobile/portable music. Nothing new
was happening with eight track, and the cassette industry was raising
the bar every few months. Better tapes, better heads, better motor speed
control, more reliability. The cassettes are cheaper to make than the
cartridges, and easier to store.

In the mid sixties, eight track was like iPod was a couple of years ago,
everybody wanted one, and when Lear got involved with fitting his system
to new Fords (mine was in a Mustang) they really took off. But when the
Philips cassette system began appearing on almost all major HiFI
component products in the late sixties, early seventies, interest
focused on it. When the Dolby noise reduction system and high quality,
low noise heads hit the market in 1969, eight track interest began
waning fast.

You can deny it, it makes little impact. I am a music buff, I have
always been one of the first with new technology, I was there at the
time, and believe me, eight track may have lasted fourteen or fifteen
years, but its peak only lasted eight or nine years top. The various
tape clubs had stopped or switched to cassette by the early seventies.
Remember those? The "Stereo Tape Club of America"?

By 1973 Pioneer, Kenwood, Akai, Panasonic, Magnavox, Sony, all stopped
focusing on including eight tracks in their systems and began pushing
cassette decks. The Motorola AM/FM Stereo Car Players switched from
Eight track to cassette with "Dual Capstan tape drive, Ferrite heads and
Dolby noise reduction". Ford Motor company starting advertising their
range with cassette instead of cartridge.

Eight track might kick on for another few years, but it had already
passed its peak and handed the torch to cassette. It really doesn't
matter how many die-hard enthusiasts like yourself try to deny it.

Look at many of the old advertisements from 69/71 era. They featured
people arguing about eight track versus cassette and for a year or two,
decks were sold that featured both.


it wasn't until the 1980's that cassette really took off and 8-track
subsided

when people started buying metal and chrome cassette tapes, and making
their own recordings for in the car during the early 1980's, that's
when 8-track was done

I agree, except that I was using premium tapes and making my own from
the early seventies. I had a B&O deck used for no other purpose.
Something else that I still have.


8-track made a huge comeback on the internet and Ebay, and far
outvalues a cassette now- an 8-track tape sold for $4500 on Ebay last
year- the players are also selling for more than a new cassette deck
or CD/DVD player sell for- where have you been ?

Right here. I am not, and have not been, talking about current
popularity among collectors. People also collect old 78's - is has
nothing to do with past popularity or audio fidelity.

Although I am wondering whether to put some of my eight track stuff up
on eBay. I have an Akai Reel to Reel with a built in cartridge deck as
well as two discrete decks, a Panasonic, an RS-864S and an old Magnavox.
Plus several dozen cartridges. Probably not much good now, they are too
old and have spent too much time in a hot climate. They came off my
father's yacht fifteen years ago.


Regards

Salty

people fought and died to keep that junk out of this country

They weren't fighting to someday keep (superior) Japanese automobiles out of
this country. They were fighting in retaliation to an attack, and rightly
so.
American cars have sucked in comparison to the Top 3 -- for the first time
in history, Honda, Toyota and Nissan -- for too long. Our own auto industry
paved the way for the logical consequence: precision-engineered imports --
economical cars for an affordable price which Americans understandably
snapped up at an astounding rate.
My dad's a retired decorated Army man and drives a Honda Odyssey. Why not?
It was made in the good ol' U.S. of A., unlike his old Plymouth Voyager,
which was made in Canada and had a Mitsubishi motor. sheesh...
My favorite cars are '60s American muscle cars; I've owned quite a few of
them. But the _best_ cars I've ever owned are/were Hondas. Not as much fun,
but ever so reliable.

On 22 Feb 2007 04:19:35 -0800, "duty-honor-country"
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dude, with all due respect, 8-track killed cassettes all through the
1970's for the average teenage rock fan- no one bought a cassette
deck, they appeared to be cheap and inferior- snip

If you were on the lower end of he socioeconomic scale, maybe. If you
had any money and intelligence, you went for an aftermarket cassette
deck, like and Audiovox or a Roberts. I had my first car cassette
deck in 1969....a Roberts.

it wasn't until the 1980's that cassette really took off and 8-track
subsided

when people started buying metal and chrome cassette tapes, and making
their own recordings for in the car during the early 1980's, that's
when 8-track was done snip

Thanks for plagiarizing my information, rat ass.

8-track made a huge comeback on the internet and Ebay, and far
outvalues a cassette now- an 8-track tape sold for $4500 on Ebay last
year- the players are also selling for more than a new cassette deck
or CD/DVD player sell for- where have you been ? snip

"Huge comeback?" You can't give them away on eBay now. The "retro
fad" is over, thanks in part to your fraudstering on fleaBay. The
only thing related to 8 tracks you seem to be selling are those fake
alignment tapes you continue to rip people off with...and continue to
write refund checks for to avoid being thrown off of eBay...again.

By the way...changing your "66fourdoor" account to "66-catalina" won't
hide your recent shill bidding attempts.

dude, with all due respect, 8-track killed cassettes all through the
1970's for the average teenage rock fan-

Dude, other way around. Cassettes were MUCH preferred over 8-tracks from the
very early '70s on. I remember it well -- smaller, better sound, no more
jumping to the next track in the middle of a song...
Did you see the episode of That '70s Show when Eric was ****ed off because
he got an 8-track for his birthday instead of a cassette deck for the Vista
Cruiser? It's practically in the history books, man. ;-)

On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 01:22:26 +1000, Salty wrote:

I think that it might have just appeared that way to you because it was
reflected in the personal tastes of the groups you moved in.snip

Since Charlie Nudo hails from the toxic, depressed rathole region of
northeast Pennsylvania, it's a cinch 8 track was popular due to
everyone being broke.

snipping some of Salty's factual info

Rolling Stone (I have a full collection of their publications too.) was
also often scathing about eight track as a medium when compared to
advances in cassette technology for mobile/portable music. Nothing new
was happening with eight track, and the cassette industry was raising
the bar every few months. Better tapes, better heads, better motor speed
control, more reliability. The cassettes are cheaper to make than the
cartridges, and easier to store. snip

The big turning point technically were the IEC standards revisions,
prodded by Philips AG, in 1981, that allowed for a reference fluxivity
of 250 nWb/m and designation of all different oxide families into four
distinct and compatible groups, I through IV. Prior to this, in the
mid 1970s, different equalization curves were adapted for ferric and
all other oxide types, which was the beginning of cassette's
"grooming" to be a high fidelity medium. Addition of Dolby "B" around
the same time sealed the fate of 8 track as a home recording medium,
along with 'reel to reel' like tape shuttling (impossible on 8 track)
and other advantages as you stated.

You can go on and on about facts all you want to Charlie Nudo, but it
simply becomes a troll feeding exercise. The more fact you throw in
his face, the more delusional bull**** he'll come back with.

Charlie Nudo, aka "66-catalina", is a mental patient/Usenet troll. See
more of his criminal activities at:

http://nudowatch.blogspot.com