1970-D Licoln Cent Possible Error

I found a 1970-D Lincoln Cent in change this morning and something
about it made me study it for a while. I kept looking at the mint mark
to make sure it was a "D" and not an "S" and then I saw what caught my
eye in the first place; part of Abe's bowtie and shirt are missing.
The right side of his bowtie is completely gone, while the outer right
line of his shir from his bowtie to the edge of the coin is gone,
except for a small triangle-shape at the edge. I looked to see if it
was just worn away, but there are no signs of it having ever been
there. Has anyone here ever seen this, or have any info on this? I'm
sure it has no significant value, it's just fun finding something like
this in circulation.

Steve

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I found a 1970-D Lincoln Cent in change this morning and something
about it made me study it for a while. I kept looking at the mint mark
to make sure it was a "D" and not an "S" and then I saw what caught my
eye in the first place; part of Abe's bowtie and shirt are missing.
The right side of his bowtie is completely gone, while the outer right
line of his shir from his bowtie to the edge of the coin is gone,
except for a small triangle-shape at the edge. I looked to see if it
was just worn away, but there are no signs of it having ever been
there. Has anyone here ever seen this, or have any info on this? I'm
sure it has no significant value, it's just fun finding something like
this in circulation.

Sounds like a "filled die" error.
Grease and other gunk from the coining press gets into the die and
causes exactly the effect you are describing.

On Apr 11, 5:32�pm, "Bob F." wrote:
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I found a 1970-D Lincoln Cent in change this morning and something
about it made me study it for a while. I kept looking at the mint mark
to make sure it was a "D" and not an "S" and then I saw what caught my
eye in the first place; part of Abe's bowtie and shirt are missing.
The right side of his bowtie is completely gone, while the outer right
line of his shir from his bowtie to the edge of the coin is gone,
except for a small triangle-shape at the edge. I looked to see if it
was just worn away, but there are no signs of it having ever been
there. Has anyone here ever seen this, or have any info on this? I'm
sure it has no significant value, it's just fun finding something like
this in circulation.

Sounds like a "filled die" error.
Grease and other gunk from the coining press gets into the die and
causes exactly the effect you are describing.

hey Bob, thanks for the info. I have other varieties of filled dies on
other Lincolns, but none this severe. I have found a few cuds, a few
'98 & '00 TyII's, and a few other minor errors(on quarters, dimes &
nickels). It's fun looking at pocket change and finding different
things like that. Again, thanks for the info.

Steve

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I have found a few cuds, a few '98 & '00 TyII's, and a few other minor
errors(on quarters, dimes & nickels). It's fun looking at pocket change
and finding different things like that. Again, thanks for the info.


Finding cuds in circulation is a very good find - keep looking!

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On Apr 11, 5:32�pm, "Bob F." wrote:
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I found a 1970-D Lincoln Cent in change this morning and something
about it made me study it for a while. I kept looking at the mint mark
to make sure it was a "D" and not an "S" and then I saw what caught my
eye in the first place; part of Abe's bowtie and shirt are missing.
The right side of his bowtie is completely gone, while the outer right
line of his shir from his bowtie to the edge of the coin is gone,
except for a small triangle-shape at the edge. I looked to see if it
was just worn away, but there are no signs of it having ever been
there. Has anyone here ever seen this, or have any info on this? I'm
sure it has no significant value, it's just fun finding something like
this in circulation.

Sounds like a "filled die" error.
Grease and other gunk from the coining press gets into the die and
causes exactly the effect you are describing.

hey Bob, thanks for the info. I have other varieties of filled dies on
other Lincolns, but none this severe. I have found a few cuds, a few
'98 & '00 TyII's, and a few other minor errors(on quarters, dimes &
nickels). It's fun looking at pocket change and finding different
things like that. Again, thanks for the info.

Steve,

There's one other possibility--if there was a die clash, they may
have ground down the obverse die to remove the clash marks, and ground
it to the point that some of the detail is missing (the same thing
that caused the "3-legged" Buffalo). I've got a 1973 cent that has
the same appearance you mention. While a filled die is a possibility,
I'd lean toward the "overground" die. The shallowest part of the
design is what would be missing, and that's exactly the part that's
gone on your coin.

take care,
Scott

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On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 15:36:10 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Apr 11, 5:32�pm, "Bob F." wrote:
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I found a 1970-D Lincoln Cent in change this morning and something
about it made me study it for a while. I kept looking at the mint
mark
to make sure it was a "D" and not an "S" and then I saw what
caught my
eye in the first place; part of Abe's bowtie and shirt are
missing.
The right side of his bowtie is completely gone, while the outer
right
line of his shir from his bowtie to the edge of the coin is gone,
except for a small triangle-shape at the edge. I looked to see if
it
was just worn away, but there are no signs of it having ever been
there. Has anyone here ever seen this, or have any info on this?
I'm
sure it has no significant value, it's just fun finding something
like
this in circulation.

Sounds like a "filled die" error.
Grease and other gunk from the coining press gets into the die and
causes exactly the effect you are describing.

hey Bob, thanks for the info. I have other varieties of filled dies on
other Lincolns, but none this severe. I have found a few cuds, a few
'98 & '00 TyII's, and a few other minor errors(on quarters, dimes &
nickels). It's fun looking at pocket change and finding different
things like that. Again, thanks for the info.

Steve,

There's one other possibility--if there was a die clash, they may
have ground down the obverse die to remove the clash marks, and ground
it to the point that some of the detail is missing (the same thing
that caused the "3-legged" Buffalo). I've got a 1973 cent that has
the same appearance you mention. While a filled die is a possibility,
I'd lean toward the "overground" die. The shallowest part of the
design is what would be missing, and that's exactly the part that's
gone on your coin.

A filled die would be far more likely than an "overground" one.

On Apr 11, 5:25*pm, " wrote:
I found a 1970-D Lincoln Cent in change this morning and something
about it made me study it for a while. I kept looking at the mint mark
to make sure it was a "D" and not an "S" and then I saw what caught my
eye in the first place; part of Abe's bowtie and shirt are missing.
The right side of his bowtie is completely gone, while the outer right
line of his shir from his bowtie to the edge of the coin is gone,
except for a small triangle-shape at the edge. I looked to see if it
was just worn away, but there are no signs of it having ever been
there. Has anyone here ever seen this, or have any info on this? I'm
sure it has no significant value, it's just fun finding something like
this in circulation.

Steve

Hubby and I found a coin the size of a dime with the edges smooth
and a silver color. The impression and color is that of a Lincoln
cent, both sides.
Error or an attempt by a cheater?

Doris

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Hubby and I found a coin the size of a dime with the edges smooth
and a silver color. The impression and color is that of a Lincoln
cent, both sides.
Error or an attempt by a cheater?

I'm confused. You say in one sentence it is silver colored and in the
next it is the color of a Lincoln cent (copper).
So which is it?

On Apr 12, 10:00*am, "Bob F." wrote:
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* *Hubby and I found a coin the size of a dime with the edges smooth
and a silver color. The impression and color is that of a Lincoln
cent, both sides.
* *Error or an attempt by a cheater?

I'm confused. You say in one sentence it is silver colored and in the
next it is the color of a Lincoln cent (copper).
So which is it?

The edges are silver color, the body is copper color.

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On Apr 12, 10:00 am, "Bob F." wrote:
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Hubby and I found a coin the size of a dime with the edges smooth
and a silver color. The impression and color is that of a Lincoln
cent, both sides.
Error or an attempt by a cheater?

I'm confused. You say in one sentence it is silver colored and in the
next it is the color of a Lincoln cent (copper).
So which is it?

The edges are silver color, the body is copper color.

Then it is a current-compostition Lincoln cent (copper plated zinc) with
then edges filed off.