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The Hamilton Spectator - "Why is Turkey worried about being part of EU? because the poor "subsidised" greek beggars live next door and are crying for another $5billion in handouts?"...



 
 
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Old December 20th 06, 01:17 AM posted to soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.turkish,talk.politics.european-union,soc.culture.romanian,rec.collecting.coins
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Default The Hamilton Spectator - "Why is Turkey worried about being part of EU? because the poor "subsidised" greek beggars live next door and are crying for another $5billion in handouts?"...


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The Hamilton Spectator - "Why is Turkey worried about being part of EU?":


14 December 2006 / by Tahir Aslam Gora



The recent visit by Pope Benedict to Turkey was an effort to rebuild good
relations between the Vatican and the Muslim world. But the response from
many Turkish people was a bit harsh.

There were rallies comprising of thousands of Turkish Muslims demanding the
Pope's apology for earlier remarks -- taken to be anti-Muslim -- by Emperor
Manuel II.

At one, some Turkish Muslims were holding aloft a banner with slogan, "Jesus
is a prophet of Islam, not son of God," while on the other hand demanding an
apology from the Pope.

Probably none of them thought that by negating Jesus as Son of God they are
insulting the Christian faith. It seems the demand to respect faith runs
just one way in some Muslim societies.

This situation of the renaissance of Islam in Turkey reminds me of the novel
My Name is Red, written by Turkish author (and Nobel Prize Laureate) Orhan
Pamuk.

In this novel, a Turkish sultan of the 16th century commissioned a cadre of
the most acclaimed artists to illuminate the glories of his realm in
European art style. Because this figurative art was deemed an affront to
Islam, the artists he had commissioned were being murdered.

Turkey has its own peculiar history and pressures from Islam (despite the
secular efforts of Kamal Ataturk at the beginning of the 20th century.) With
a unique past, Turkey is going through a mixing of secular and religious
cultures.

Turkey's secular elements blame the European Union (EU) for its decision, so
far, not to admit Turkey as a member state.

It seems secular forces fear that if the EU doesn't admit Turkey, the
growing power of Islamicists (militant Muslims) will completely engulf
Turkey's secular and modern manifestation.

Every day, it seems, we hear from Turkey that rising "Islamicism" there is
because of the frustration of lingering debate about Turkey's entry to the
European Union.

So, here the question arises: Why is Turkey's modernism dependent on a
quick -- and positive -- decision from the European Union?

What assurance is there that if Turkey is admitted to the EU, the
Islamicists' hold would disappear -- and how?

Turks should struggle to keep their country's modern and secular appearance
for its own sake, without being concerned about becoming part of the EU.

Do Japan, China, Hong Kong, Singapore, India, Russia and South American
states need to be worried about their modernity because they are not part of
the EU?

What, after all, is modernism? Westernization is not the only path to
secularism and modernization. Social justice, secular actions, economic
independency, democracy, free speech and freedom of individualistic values
should be the pillars of a modern society.

Japan is the best example of its kind. We do understand that such human
values don't exist in 100 per cent pure form in any human society. But a
modern and secular society must strive seriously toward them.

If those values prevail in Turkish society, then that country doesn't have
to worry whether it is part of the EU or not.




* Tahir Aslam Gora is a Pakistani writer living in exile in Burlington. He
is the author of several books of poetry, fiction and socio-political
studies including, Why Islam Needs to Evolve?

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gogu wrote:

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15 December 2006




The Hamilton Spectator - "Why is Turkey worried about being part of
EU?":


14 December 2006 / by Tahir Aslam Gora



The recent visit by Pope Benedict to Turkey was an effort to
rebuild good relations between the Vatican and the Muslim world.
But the response from many Turkish people was a bit harsh.

There were rallies comprising of thousands of Turkish Muslims
demanding the Pope's apology for earlier remarks -- taken to be
anti-Muslim -- by Emperor Manuel II.

At one, some Turkish Muslims were holding aloft a banner with
slogan, "Jesus is a prophet of Islam, not son of God," while on the
other hand demanding an apology from the Pope.

Probably none of them thought that by negating Jesus as Son of God
they are insulting the Christian faith. It seems the demand to
respect faith runs just one way in some Muslim societies.

This situation of the renaissance of Islam in Turkey reminds me of
the novel My Name is Red, written by Turkish author (and Nobel
Prize Laureate) Orhan Pamuk.

In this novel, a Turkish sultan of the 16th century commissioned a
cadre of the most acclaimed artists to illuminate the glories of
his realm in European art style. Because this figurative art was
deemed an affront to Islam, the artists he had commissioned were
being murdered.

Turkey has its own peculiar history and pressures from Islam
(despite the secular efforts of Kamal Ataturk at the beginning of
the 20th century.) With a unique past, Turkey is going through a
mixing of secular and religious cultures.

Turkey's secular elements blame the European Union (EU) for its
decision, so far, not to admit Turkey as a member state.

It seems secular forces fear that if the EU doesn't admit Turkey,
the growing power of Islamicists (militant Muslims) will completely
engulf Turkey's secular and modern manifestation.

Every day, it seems, we hear from Turkey that rising "Islamicism"
there is because of the frustration of lingering debate about
Turkey's entry to the European Union.

So, here the question arises: Why is Turkey's modernism dependent
on a quick -- and positive -- decision from the European Union?

What assurance is there that if Turkey is admitted to the EU, the
Islamicists' hold would disappear -- and how?

Turks should struggle to keep their country's modern and secular
appearance for its own sake, without being concerned about becoming
part of the EU.

Do Japan, China, Hong Kong, Singapore, India, Russia and South
American states need to be worried about their modernity because
they are not part of the EU?

What, after all, is modernism? Westernization is not the only path
to secularism and modernization. Social justice, secular actions,
economic independency, democracy, free speech and freedom of
individualistic values should be the pillars of a modern society.

Japan is the best example of its kind. We do understand that such
human values don't exist in 100 per cent pure form in any human
society. But a modern and secular society must strive seriously
toward them.

If those values prevail in Turkish society, then that country
doesn't have to worry whether it is part of the EU or not.




* Tahir Aslam Gora is a Pakistani writer living in exile in
Burlington. He is the author of several books of poetry, fiction
and socio-political studies including, Why Islam Needs to Evolve?

--

E' mai possibile, oh porco di un cane, che le avventure
in codesto reame debban risolversi tutte con grandi
puttane! F.d.A

Coins, travels and mo
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/golanule/my_photos
http://gogu.enosi.org/index.html





http://media.putfile.com/Kostas-Papafloratos

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What a sad little bitch you are Papafloratos

Go glue your plastic aeroplanes, little spastic



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Address :


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55133 KALAMARIA
THESSALONIKI
GREECE


Telephone +30 2310 434991


Employers www.egnatia.gr

Special Thanks to a brilliant team of private investigators in Greece


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http://media.putfile.com/Kostas-Papafloratos

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