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Old May 29th 08, 08:53 PM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
Jan Doggen
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Hi all

Please have look at http://cjoint.com/?fDv0Tadazc
Are these assumptions correct?
1) Stamps with the 6 characters as on the bottom of the left stamp come from
China
2) Stamps with the 'sun' in the center top as on the right stamp are from
Japan


Thanks in advance
Jan

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Old May 29th 08, 11:09 PM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
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On 29 May, 21:53, "Jan Doggen"
wrote:
Hi all

Please have *look athttp://cjoint.com/?fDv0Tadazc
Are these assumptions correct?
1) Stamps with the 6 characters as on the bottom of the left stamp come from
China


Correct. Just compare the six letters on the Chinese stamp with any in
the catalogue. Stamps from the People's Republic begin with a square
with a vertical line through it; stamps from Taiwan end with it. Your
red stamp is from a set of 1964-66, 12 stamps with 4 repeating
designs, Stanley Gibbons numbers 2168-2177a, yours being No 2173 --
the Great Hall of the People.

2) Stamps with the 'sun' in the center top as on the right stamp are from
Japan


Correct again. SG No 316 in a set of 19, 131-331 + 4 coil stamps
332-335 of 1937-40. Later stamps have NIPPON in Western letters also.
Some early designs of these small definitives were repeated with
NIPPON added.

Chris
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Old May 29th 08, 11:10 PM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
Stan Fairchild
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"Jan Doggen" wrote in message
. ..
Hi all

Please have look at http://cjoint.com/?fDv0Tadazc
Are these assumptions correct?
1) Stamps with the 6 characters as on the bottom of the left stamp come
from China
2) Stamps with the 'sun' in the center top as on the right stamp are from
Japan


Thanks in advance
Jan

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http://www.jandoggen.org
http://www.beautyofpeople.com http://www.puddingclub.nl


Jan--yes. My own guideline is that the left-most character (looks a little
like a double-headed axe and fairly easy to remember and see) marks stamps
as from China and the sun (actually a chrysanthemum) means they are from
Japan.

Stan

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Old May 30th 08, 01:10 AM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
Rodney
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Hello Jan,
this was offered to me, in February 2004 from "Christopher C"

hope this helps.
http://cjoint.com/data/fEcgRenO1n.htm

BTW. the Chrysanthemum flower on Japanese stamps (your "sun")
always have 16 petals, if you find one with 17
they are forgeries.





"Jan Doggen" wrote in message
. ..
Hi all

Please have look at http://cjoint.com/?fDv0Tadazc
Are these assumptions correct?
1) Stamps with the 6 characters as on the bottom of the left stamp come
from China
2) Stamps with the 'sun' in the center top as on the right stamp are from
Japan


Thanks in advance
Jan

================================================== ======================================
http://www.jandoggen.org
http://www.beautyofpeople.com http://www.puddingclub.nl



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Old May 30th 08, 02:05 AM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
Joshua McGee[_3_]
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On Fri, 30 May 2008 08:10:05 +0800, rodney wrote:

BTW. the Chrysanthemum flower on Japanese stamps (your "sun") always
have 16 petals, if you find one with 17 they are forgeries.


Yes, the 16-petaled chrysanthemum for Japan, and a five-petaled orchid
(almost always, and frequently in the same location) for Manchukuo:
http://cjoint.com/data/fEddbeieEL.htm

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Old May 30th 08, 08:44 AM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
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rodney wrote:
Hello Jan,
this was offered to me, in February 2004 from "Christopher C"

hope this helps.
http://cjoint.com/data/fEcgRenO1n.htm

BTW. the Chrysanthemum flower on Japanese stamps (your "sun")
always have 16 petals, if you find one with 17
they are forgeries.

It needs to be born in mind, though that the characters transliterated
as 'Zhong Hua Min Guo' (Republic of China) also appear on the pre-1949
KMT issues for China, and of course, were carried over to Taiwan when
the KMT decamped there in 1949.

The 16 petalled chrysanthemum is the prerogative of the Emperor, by
the way. Commoners are not permitted 16 petals.

Tony of the Antipathies
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Old May 30th 08, 09:07 AM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
Rodney
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"Asia-translation"

It needs to be borne in mind, though that the characters transliterated
as 'Zhong Hua Min Guo' (Republic of China) also appear on the pre-1949
KMT issues for China, and of course, were carried over to Taiwan when
the KMT decamped there in 1949.


Yep, that did come up on later post,
http://cjoint.com/data/fEkeogtX4Q.htm


The 16 petalled chrysanthemum is the prerogative of the Emperor, by
the way. Commoners are not permitted 16 petals.



 




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