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China Manchukuo.
These are obviously different stamps.
Were the "china mail" issues redrawn? http://cjoint.com/data/gnp03JhZSk.htm |
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China Manchukuo.
rodney schrieb:
These are obviously different stamps. Were the "china mail" issues redrawn? http://cjoint.com/data/gnp03JhZSk.htm Rodney, the left one should be the 1944 issue and the right one the issue from 1937. As far as I remember, the design had been changed slightly in 1944 - I realized that for the 20 Fen and 1 Yen design. Peter -- No Gates - no Bill! |
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China Manchukuo.
Ta muchly Pete, It is becoming obvious, I am going to have to ditch the "simplified" and buy a new Catalogue set (ouch!) I cannot for the life of me understand why a country "re-draws". If the plates are worn, why not bring out a new issue? It seems pointless to re draw an existing design. (well, to me anyhow "Peter Baumann" wrote in message ... rodney schrieb: These are obviously different stamps. Were the "china mail" issues redrawn? http://cjoint.com/data/gnp03JhZSk.htm Rodney, the left one should be the 1944 issue and the right one the issue from 1937. As far as I remember, the design had been changed slightly in 1944 - I realized that for the 20 Fen and 1 Yen design. Peter -- No Gates - no Bill! |
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China Manchukuo.
"rodney" wrote in message
... Ta muchly Pete, It is becoming obvious, I am going to have to ditch the "simplified" and buy a new Catalogue set (ouch!) I cannot for the life of me understand why a country "re-draws". If the plates are worn, why not bring out a new issue? It seems pointless to re draw an existing design. (well, to me anyhow It is, maybe, cheaper? -- Victor |
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China Manchukuo.
On Sat, 13 Jun 2009 17:11:24 +0200, Victor Manta wrote:
I cannot for the life of me understand why a country "re-draws". If the plates are worn, why not bring out a new issue? It seems pointless to re draw an existing design. (well, to me anyhow It is, maybe, cheaper? With a large and potentially suspicious population, for whom new designs might be met with suspicion, it might not be worth the "social engineering" required to introduce a new stamp. -- Joshua H. McGee San Marino, Los Angeles, California, USA, Earth Member: APS, ATA, ISWSC, MBPC Trade?: http://www.mcgees.org/stamp-offers/ |
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China Manchukuo.
On Jun 13, 10:13*am, Peter Baumann wrote:
rodney schrieb: These are obviously different stamps. Were the "china mail" issues redrawn? http://cjoint.com/data/gnp03JhZSk.htm Rodney, the left one should be the 1944 issue and the right one the issue from 1937. As far as I remember, the design had been changed slightly in 1944 - I realized that for the 20 Fen and 1 Yen design. Peter -- No Gates - no Bill! To add to what Peter said: The original set of 4 (1935-01-01) was lithographed on granite paper with a watermark of horizontal wavy lines. This design was used for the 4 and 12 fen values. These exist imperf as well. A revised set of 3 (1935) was issued with a watermark of characters instead of lines. This design was used for the 12 fen value. ..A redrawn and engraved set of 4 (1936) was issued with the watermark of characters. This design was used for the 4 and 12 fen values. The background shading lines were now unbroken, shading was removed from the left and right of the mountains and nearly all lines were removed from the lake. In 1937, the two stamps were overprinted in chinese chatacters for new postal rates. 5 fen on 4 fen (2 settings) character wmk. 5 fen on 4 fen (1 setting) wavy line wmk. 13 fen on 12 fen (3 settings) char. wmk. Later in 1937, the 4 and 12 fen were re-engraved for 5 fen black (right hand stamp) and 13 fen. Char watermark. In 1944, the 5 fen was produced by lithography in grey-black (left hand stamp.) Blair |
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China Manchukuo.
Hmmm, interesting and valid concept.
"Joshua McGee" It is, maybe, cheaper? With a large and potentially suspicious population, for whom new designs might be met with suspicion, it might not be worth the "social engineering" required to introduce a new stamp. |
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China Manchukuo.
Thank you very much.
Now that's what I want in a catalogue ---------------------------- "Blair" To add to what Peter said: The original set of 4 (1935-01-01) was lithographed on granite paper with a watermark of horizontal wavy lines. This design was used for the 4 and 12 fen values. These exist imperf as well. A revised set of 3 (1935) was issued with a watermark of characters instead of lines. This design was used for the 12 fen value. ..A redrawn and engraved set of 4 (1936) was issued with the watermark of characters. This design was used for the 4 and 12 fen values. The background shading lines were now unbroken, shading was removed from the left and right of the mountains and nearly all lines were removed from the lake. In 1937, the two stamps were overprinted in chinese chatacters for new postal rates. 5 fen on 4 fen (2 settings) character wmk. 5 fen on 4 fen (1 setting) wavy line wmk. 13 fen on 12 fen (3 settings) char. wmk. Later in 1937, the 4 and 12 fen were re-engraved for 5 fen black (right hand stamp) and 13 fen. Char watermark. In 1944, the 5 fen was produced by lithography in grey-black (left hand stamp.) Blair |
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China Manchukuo.
On Jun 13, 7:56*pm, "rodney" wrote:
Thank you very much. Now that's what I want in a catalogue ---------------------------- It's called Scott. 8*) By the way, that last auction had a full 2008 Gibbons catalogue (5 volumes) that was estimated at $A 220 (about half of last year's price). There were no bids. $A 44 per volume is a good price for a year old catalogue. B |
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Stamps making. Was: China Manchukuo.
"Joshua McGee" wrote in message
... On Sat, 13 Jun 2009 17:11:24 +0200, Victor Manta wrote: I cannot for the life of me understand why a country "re-draws". If the plates are worn, why not bring out a new issue? It seems pointless to re draw an existing design. (well, to me anyhow It is, maybe, cheaper? With a large and potentially suspicious population, for whom new designs might be met with suspicion, it might not be worth the "social engineering" required to introduce a new stamp. Or is it that definitives should be produced as cheap as possible, because they are much less collected (compared to the quantities that are issued), as opposed to commemoratives, the number of which increases permanently? -- Victor Manta ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Philatelic Webmasters Organization: http://pwmo.org/ Art on Stamps: http://artonstamps.org/ Romania by Stamps: http://marci-postale.com/ Communism on Stamps: http://reds-on.postalstamps.biz/ Spanish North Africa: http://www.sna-on.postalstamps.biz/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
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