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Q: Newfoundland
In reference to this particular DOX, was this just mailed to someone employed in the London Office of the High Commissioner of Newfoundland? I would think the HC of NFL would be in NFL and a person in London would just have it mailed to their address. http://cover.home.mindspring.com/stamp/nfound01.jpg TL |
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Q: Newfoundland
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, TL wrote: In reference to this particular DOX, was this just mailed to someone employed in the London Office of the High Commissioner of Newfoundland? I would think the HC of NFL would be in NFL and a person in London would just have it mailed to their address. http://cover.home.mindspring.com/stamp/nfound01.jpg TL Hi TL In The British Commonwealth, representatives of on Commonwealth country to another Commonwealth country are named «High Commissioners». This is because the monarch could not name an ambassador to itself. The High Commissoners have the rank of ambassadors for any purpose of protocol and they exert the same functions as ambassadors. So, the subscription on your cover is exact as, in 1932, Newfoundland would have had a High Commissioner in London. I could not find if Mr Murphy was the High Commissioner, an employee of the High Commission or a Newfoundlander who would pick up mail sent in care of the High Commission. Nice cover! Richard -- Pour répondre en perso insérer «r» devant mon nom et retrancher «/invalid» To answer directly, insert «r» in front of my name and drop «/invalid» |
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Q: Newfoundland
On Jan 1, 2:53 pm, Richard Thouin /invalid wrote:
In article , TL wrote: In reference to this particular DOX, was this just mailed to someone employed in the London Office of the High Commissioner of Newfoundland? I would think the HC of NFL would be in NFL and a person in London would just have it mailed to their address. http://cover.home.mindspring.com/stamp/nfound01.jpg TL Hi TL In The British Commonwealth, representatives of on Commonwealth country to another Commonwealth country are named «High Commissioners». This is because the monarch could not name an ambassador to itself. The High Commissoners have the rank of ambassadors for any purpose of protocol and they exert the same functions as ambassadors. So, the subscription on your cover is exact as, in 1932, Newfoundland would have had a High Commissioner in London. I could not find if Mr Murphy was the High Commissioner, an employee of the High Commission or a Newfoundlander who would pick up mail sent in care of the High Commission. Nice cover! Richard -- Pour répondre en perso insérer «r» devant mon nom et retrancher «/invalid» To answer directly, insert «r» in front of my name and drop «/invalid» Richard, Thanks for the clarification. I couldn't find anything on Mr. Murphy via Google either. Tom |
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Q: Newfoundland
On Jan 1, 4:53 pm, Richard Thouin /invalid wrote:
In article , TL wrote: In reference to this particular DOX, was this just mailed to someone employed in the London Office of the High Commissioner of Newfoundland? I would think the HC of NFL would be in NFL and a person in London would just have it mailed to their address. http://cover.home.mindspring.com/stamp/nfound01.jpg TL Hi TL In The British Commonwealth, representatives of on Commonwealth country to another Commonwealth country are named «High Commissioners». This is because the monarch could not name an ambassador to itself. The High Commissoners have the rank of ambassadors for any purpose of protocol and they exert the same functions as ambassadors. So, the subscription on your cover is exact as, in 1932, Newfoundland would have had a High Commissioner in London. I could not find if Mr Murphy was the High Commissioner, an employee of the High Commission or a Newfoundlander who would pick up mail sent in care of the High Commission. Nice cover! Richard -- Pour répondre en perso insérer «r» devant mon nom et retrancher «/invalid» To answer directly, insert «r» in front of my name and drop «/invalid» Richard is correct. Here is a list of Canadian High Commissioners TO the Dominion of Newfoundland High Commissioner Start of Term End of Term Charles Jost Burchell 1941 1944 James Macdonald 1944 1948 Paul Bridle 1948 1948 Charles Jost Burchell 1948 1949 Blair |
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Q: Newfoundland
On Jan 1, 6:08 pm, TL wrote:
On Jan 1, 2:53 pm, Richard Thouin /invalid wrote: In article , TL wrote: In reference to this particular DOX, was this just mailed to someone employed in the London Office of the High Commissioner of Newfoundland? I would think the HC of NFL would be in NFL and a person in London would just have it mailed to their address. http://cover.home.mindspring.com/stamp/nfound01.jpg TL Hi TL In The British Commonwealth, representatives of on Commonwealth country to another Commonwealth country are named «High Commissioners». This is because the monarch could not name an ambassador to itself. The High Commissoners have the rank of ambassadors for any purpose of protocol and they exert the same functions as ambassadors. So, the subscription on your cover is exact as, in 1932, Newfoundland would have had a High Commissioner in London. I could not find if Mr Murphy was the High Commissioner, an employee of the High Commission or a Newfoundlander who would pick up mail sent in care of the High Commission. Nice cover! Richard -- Pour répondre en perso insérer «r» devant mon nom et retrancher «/invalid» To answer directly, insert «r» in front of my name and drop «/invalid» Richard, Thanks for the clarification. I couldn't find anything on Mr. Murphy via Google either. Tom Hi Tom + All: There are many Murphy's in Newfoundland. Mr JL Murphy must have been a politician or civil servant of Newfoundland in that era. I found a reference that he and Commander A MacDermott represented Newfoundland at the 1933 Conference of the British Empire Service League (a WWI veterans association) . I'm not sure if it is the same JL Murphy who was born c1861, married to Maria Anntoinette Murphy (b 1862) and lived at Trepassey, NFLD in the 1880s, but those dates would seem to fit. Also, it would seem that if Murphy worked at the Newfoundland High Commission, it would be a cost saving to have him attend the conference (ie to save travel costs during the Great Depression). Note : The Canadian portion of the BESL and other veterans' groups merged in 1925 to form the Canadian Legion. In 1960, it became the Royal Canadian Legion. http://legion.ca/asp/docs/about/his_e.asp http://www.rpsc.org/Library/rememberance/legion.jpg Blair |
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Q: Newfoundland
On Jan 2, 2:28 pm, "Blair (TC)" wrote:
On Jan 1, 6:08 pm, TL wrote: On Jan 1, 2:53 pm, Richard Thouin /invalid wrote: In article , TL wrote: In reference to this particular DOX, was this just mailed to someone employed in the London Office of the High Commissioner of Newfoundland? I would think the HC of NFL would be in NFL and a person in London would just have it mailed to their address. http://cover.home.mindspring.com/stamp/nfound01.jpg TL Hi TL In The British Commonwealth, representatives of on Commonwealth country to another Commonwealth country are named «High Commissioners». This is because the monarch could not name an ambassador to itself. The High Commissoners have the rank of ambassadors for any purpose of protocol and they exert the same functions as ambassadors. So, the subscription on your cover is exact as, in 1932, Newfoundland would have had a High Commissioner in London. I could not find if Mr Murphy was the High Commissioner, an employee of the High Commission or a Newfoundlander who would pick up mail sent in care of the High Commission. Nice cover! Richard -- Pour répondre en perso insérer «r» devant mon nom et retrancher «/invalid» To answer directly, insert «r» in front of my name and drop «/invalid» Richard, Thanks for the clarification. I couldn't find anything on Mr. Murphy via Google either. Tom Hi Tom + All: There are many Murphy's in Newfoundland. Mr JL Murphy must have been a politician or civil servant of Newfoundland in that era. I found a reference that he and Commander A MacDermott represented Newfoundland at the 1933 Conference of the British Empire Service League (a WWI veterans association) . I'm not sure if it is the same JL Murphy who was born c1861, married to Maria Anntoinette Murphy (b 1862) and lived at Trepassey, NFLD in the 1880s, but those dates would seem to fit. Also, it would seem that if Murphy worked at the Newfoundland High Commission, it would be a cost saving to have him attend the conference (ie to save travel costs during the Great Depression). Note : The Canadian portion of the BESL and other veterans' groups merged in 1925 to form the Canadian Legion. In 1960, it became the Royal Canadian Legion.http://legion.ca/asp/docs/about/his_...nce/legion.jpg Blair Thanks Blair, Someone asked me if this was really on the flight out that day because it is without cachet or back stamp arrival. These things I don't know. Tom |
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Q: Newfoundland
On Jan 2, 5:01 pm, TL wrote:
On Jan 2, 2:28 pm, "Blair (TC)" wrote: On Jan 1, 6:08 pm, TL wrote: On Jan 1, 2:53 pm, Richard Thouin /invalid wrote: In article , TL wrote: In reference to this particular DOX, was this just mailed to someone employed in the London Office of the High Commissioner of Newfoundland? I would think the HC of NFL would be in NFL and a person in London would just have it mailed to their address. http://cover.home.mindspring.com/stamp/nfound01.jpg TL Hi TL In The British Commonwealth, representatives of on Commonwealth country to another Commonwealth country are named «High Commissioners». This is because the monarch could not name an ambassador to itself. The High Commissoners have the rank of ambassadors for any purpose of protocol and they exert the same functions as ambassadors. So, the subscription on your cover is exact as, in 1932, Newfoundland would have had a High Commissioner in London. I could not find if Mr Murphy was the High Commissioner, an employee of the High Commission or a Newfoundlander who would pick up mail sent in care of the High Commission. Nice cover! Richard -- Pour répondre en perso insérer «r» devant mon nom et retrancher «/invalid» To answer directly, insert «r» in front of my name and drop «/invalid» Richard, Thanks for the clarification. I couldn't find anything on Mr. Murphy via Google either. Tom Hi Tom + All: There are many Murphy's in Newfoundland. Mr JL Murphy must have been a politician or civil servant of Newfoundland in that era. I found a reference that he and Commander A MacDermott represented Newfoundland at the 1933 Conference of the British Empire Service League (a WWI veterans association) . I'm not sure if it is the same JL Murphy who was born c1861, married to Maria Anntoinette Murphy (b 1862) and lived at Trepassey, NFLD in the 1880s, but those dates would seem to fit. Also, it would seem that if Murphy worked at the Newfoundland High Commission, it would be a cost saving to have him attend the conference (ie to save travel costs during the Great Depression). Note : The Canadian portion of the BESL and other veterans' groups merged in 1925 to form the Canadian Legion. In 1960, it became the Royal Canadian Legion.http://legion.ca/asp/docs/about/his_...c.org/Library/... Blair Thanks Blair, Someone asked me if this was really on the flight out that day because it is without cachet or back stamp arrival. These things I don't know. Tom I doubt very much that he was on the plane. Flying was risky enough in those days and I suspect that these mail planes had no passengers, beside the crew. Blair |
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Q: Newfoundland
On Jan 2, 5:01 pm, TL wrote:
On Jan 2, 2:28 pm, "Blair (TC)" wrote: On Jan 1, 6:08 pm, TL wrote: On Jan 1, 2:53 pm, Richard Thouin /invalid wrote: In article , TL wrote: In reference to this particular DOX, was this just mailed to someone employed in the London Office of the High Commissioner of Newfoundland? I would think the HC of NFL would be in NFL and a person in London would just have it mailed to their address. http://cover.home.mindspring.com/stamp/nfound01.jpg TL Hi TL In The British Commonwealth, representatives of on Commonwealth country to another Commonwealth country are named «High Commissioners». This is because the monarch could not name an ambassador to itself. The High Commissoners have the rank of ambassadors for any purpose of protocol and they exert the same functions as ambassadors. So, the subscription on your cover is exact as, in 1932, Newfoundland would have had a High Commissioner in London. I could not find if Mr Murphy was the High Commissioner, an employee of the High Commission or a Newfoundlander who would pick up mail sent in care of the High Commission. Nice cover! Richard -- Pour répondre en perso insérer «r» devant mon nom et retrancher «/invalid» To answer directly, insert «r» in front of my name and drop «/invalid» Richard, Thanks for the clarification. I couldn't find anything on Mr. Murphy via Google either. Tom Hi Tom + All: There are many Murphy's in Newfoundland. Mr JL Murphy must have been a politician or civil servant of Newfoundland in that era. I found a reference that he and Commander A MacDermott represented Newfoundland at the 1933 Conference of the British Empire Service League (a WWI veterans association) . I'm not sure if it is the same JL Murphy who was born c1861, married to Maria Anntoinette Murphy (b 1862) and lived at Trepassey, NFLD in the 1880s, but those dates would seem to fit. Also, it would seem that if Murphy worked at the Newfoundland High Commission, it would be a cost saving to have him attend the conference (ie to save travel costs during the Great Depression). Note : The Canadian portion of the BESL and other veterans' groups merged in 1925 to form the Canadian Legion. In 1960, it became the Royal Canadian Legion.http://legion.ca/asp/docs/about/his_...c.org/Library/... Blair Thanks Blair, Someone asked me if this was really on the flight out that day because it is without cachet or back stamp arrival. These things I don't know. Tom Here is some more data. There were about 750 covers like yours (to London, no back stamp) Covers dated 20 May are much rarer. The High Commission was an address of convenience for collectors. Here is an article on the DO-X Newfoundland flight of 1932. http://bnatopics.org/hhlibrary/newsl...88-05-w017.pdf Regards Blair |
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Q: Newfoundland
On Jan 2, 10:44 pm, "Blair (TC)" wrote:
On Jan 2, 5:01 pm, TL wrote: On Jan 2, 2:28 pm, "Blair (TC)" wrote: On Jan 1, 6:08 pm, TL wrote: On Jan 1, 2:53 pm, Richard Thouin /invalid wrote: In article , TL wrote: In reference to this particular DOX, was this just mailed to someone employed in the London Office of the High Commissioner of Newfoundland? I would think the HC of NFL would be in NFL and a person in London would just have it mailed to their address. http://cover.home.mindspring.com/stamp/nfound01.jpg TL Hi TL In The British Commonwealth, representatives of on Commonwealth country to another Commonwealth country are named «High Commissioners».. This is because the monarch could not name an ambassador to itself. The High Commissoners have the rank of ambassadors for any purpose of protocol and they exert the same functions as ambassadors. So, the subscription on your cover is exact as, in 1932, Newfoundland would have had a High Commissioner in London. I could not find if Mr Murphy was the High Commissioner, an employee of the High Commission or a Newfoundlander who would pick up mail sent in care of the High Commission. Nice cover! Richard -- Pour répondre en perso insérer «r» devant mon nom et retrancher «/invalid» To answer directly, insert «r» in front of my name and drop «/invalid» Richard, Thanks for the clarification. I couldn't find anything on Mr. Murphy via Google either. Tom Hi Tom + All: There are many Murphy's in Newfoundland. Mr JL Murphy must have been a politician or civil servant of Newfoundland in that era. I found a reference that he and Commander A MacDermott represented Newfoundland at the 1933 Conference of the British Empire Service League (a WWI veterans association) . I'm not sure if it is the same JL Murphy who was born c1861, married to Maria Anntoinette Murphy (b 1862) and lived at Trepassey, NFLD in the 1880s, but those dates would seem to fit. Also, it would seem that if Murphy worked at the Newfoundland High Commission, it would be a cost saving to have him attend the conference (ie to save travel costs during the Great Depression). Note : The Canadian portion of the BESL and other veterans' groups merged in 1925 to form the Canadian Legion. In 1960, it became the Royal Canadian Legion.http://legion.ca/asp/docs/about/his_...c.org/Library/... Blair Thanks Blair, Someone asked me if this was really on the flight out that day because it is without cachet or back stamp arrival. These things I don't know. Tom I doubt very much that he was on the plane. Flying was risky enough in those days and I suspect that these mail planes had no passengers, beside the crew. Blair My error, this was a BIG plane and did carry passengers. I doubt that this person was on it though. B |
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Q: Newfoundland
On Jan 2, 9:22 pm, "Blair (TC)" wrote:
On Jan 2, 5:01 pm, TL wrote: On Jan 2, 2:28 pm, "Blair (TC)" wrote: On Jan 1, 6:08 pm, TL wrote: On Jan 1, 2:53 pm, Richard Thouin /invalid wrote: In article , TL wrote: In reference to this particular DOX, was this just mailed to someone employed in the London Office of the High Commissioner of Newfoundland? I would think the HC of NFL would be in NFL and a person in London would just have it mailed to their address. http://cover.home.mindspring.com/stamp/nfound01.jpg TL Hi TL In The British Commonwealth, representatives of on Commonwealth country to another Commonwealth country are named «High Commissioners».. This is because the monarch could not name an ambassador to itself. The High Commissoners have the rank of ambassadors for any purpose of protocol and they exert the same functions as ambassadors. So, the subscription on your cover is exact as, in 1932, Newfoundland would have had a High Commissioner in London. I could not find if Mr Murphy was the High Commissioner, an employee of the High Commission or a Newfoundlander who would pick up mail sent in care of the High Commission. Nice cover! Richard -- Pour répondre en perso insérer «r» devant mon nom et retrancher «/invalid» To answer directly, insert «r» in front of my name and drop «/invalid» Richard, Thanks for the clarification. I couldn't find anything on Mr. Murphy via Google either. Tom Hi Tom + All: There are many Murphy's in Newfoundland. Mr JL Murphy must have been a politician or civil servant of Newfoundland in that era. I found a reference that he and Commander A MacDermott represented Newfoundland at the 1933 Conference of the British Empire Service League (a WWI veterans association) . I'm not sure if it is the same JL Murphy who was born c1861, married to Maria Anntoinette Murphy (b 1862) and lived at Trepassey, NFLD in the 1880s, but those dates would seem to fit. Also, it would seem that if Murphy worked at the Newfoundland High Commission, it would be a cost saving to have him attend the conference (ie to save travel costs during the Great Depression). Note : The Canadian portion of the BESL and other veterans' groups merged in 1925 to form the Canadian Legion. In 1960, it became the Royal Canadian Legion.http://legion.ca/asp/docs/about/his_...c.org/Library/... Blair Thanks Blair, Someone asked me if this was really on the flight out that day because it is without cachet or back stamp arrival. These things I don't know. Tom Here is some more data. There were about 750 covers like yours (to London, no back stamp) Covers dated 20 May are much rarer. The High Commission was an address of convenience for collectors. Here is an article on the DO-X Newfoundland flight of 1932.http://bnatopics.org/hhlibrary/newsl...88-05-w017.pdf Regards Blair Thanks Blair, Great information. The earlier question was whether the cover was on the flight but you answered that quite well anyway. Regards, Tom |
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