The new Boy Scout Silver Dollar from the US Mint? Why a girl?

On Mar 19, 1:21*am, MKW wrote:
Can someone tell me again why there is a female featured on the Boy
Scout silver dollar? *

You should note that BSA does not have a problem with the coin, and so
why should you. But, here have been females involved with the "Boy
Scouts" for a LONG time.
Examples:
Explorer Posts can, and do, have female members.
Den Mothers are a vitally important part of the Cub Scout system.
When a scout earns the Eagle Badge, it is typically his MOTHER that
presents him with the award.
Girls have sued for, and won, the right to be part of Scout Troops --
not common, but it does happen.

For these reasons, and more, "Boy Scouts" have called themselves
"Scouts" for more than 30 years. Basically, if it were not for the
involvement and support of females, there would be not such thing as
Scouting.

"Mr. Jaggers" lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com wrote in message
...

Looks to me as if the committee chose to depict the reality of scouting as
it is in 2010.

I'll accept that they depict _a_ possible reality. A statistically
unlikely one, especialy once you take Ethnic Involvement figures
into account, but _a_ reality nonetheless.

--
Michael Benveniste -- (Clarification required)
"The hippies wanted peace and love. We wanted Ferraris, blondes and
switchblades." Alice Cooper

Michael Benveniste wrote:
"Mr. Jaggers" lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com wrote in message
...

Looks to me as if the committee chose to depict the reality of
scouting as it is in 2010.

I'll accept that they depict _a_ possible reality. A statistically
unlikely one, especialy once you take Ethnic Involvement figures
into account, but _a_ reality nonetheless.

Depicting *the* reality would require a much larger coin, maybe one of those
gigantor gold things like the Canadians are producing!

James, Living Large and Thinking Big

"Bones" wrote in message
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On Mar 19, 1:21 am, MKW wrote:
Can someone tell me again why there is a female featured on the Boy
Scout silver dollar?

You should note that BSA does not have a problem with the coin, and so
why should you. But, here have been females involved with the "Boy
Scouts" for a LONG time.
Examples:
Explorer Posts can, and do, have female members.
Den Mothers are a vitally important part of the Cub Scout system.
When a scout earns the Eagle Badge, it is typically his MOTHER that
presents him with the award.
Girls have sued for, and won, the right to be part of Scout Troops --
not common, but it does happen.

For these reasons, and more, "Boy Scouts" have called themselves
"Scouts" for more than 30 years. Basically, if it were not for the
involvement and support of females, there would be not such thing as
Scouting.
===========

Aside from spawning sons, it's a stretch to claim that there would be no
such thing as scouting without the involvement and support of females. Few
would discount the support moms give their sons, but then moms aren't
considered "Scouts" per se and would not likely be represented by the figure
depicted on the coin in question. Most moms support all types of activities
and goals of their sons and daughters equally. They typically served as den
mothers for young Cub Scouts largely because the dad's were working while
afternoon meetings were held. The dads I knew provided most of their their
support in the evenings and on weekends. IMO, having been a cub and boy
scout back when kids handled knives and guns without parents having heart
failure, I would not expect the design of a coin celebrating the history of
the Boy Scouts to feature a female on it. On the other hand, a coin noting
the "progress" of the Boy Scouts as it exists today might, and apparently
does.

On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 11:41:28 -0400, "Bruce Remick"
wrote:


"Bones" wrote in message
...
On Mar 19, 1:21 am, MKW wrote:
Can someone tell me again why there is a female featured on the Boy
Scout silver dollar?

You should note that BSA does not have a problem with the coin, and so
why should you. But, here have been females involved with the "Boy
Scouts" for a LONG time.
Examples:
Explorer Posts can, and do, have female members.
Den Mothers are a vitally important part of the Cub Scout system.
When a scout earns the Eagle Badge, it is typically his MOTHER that
presents him with the award.
Girls have sued for, and won, the right to be part of Scout Troops --
not common, but it does happen.

For these reasons, and more, "Boy Scouts" have called themselves
"Scouts" for more than 30 years. Basically, if it were not for the
involvement and support of females, there would be not such thing as
Scouting.
===========

Aside from spawning sons, it's a stretch to claim that there would be no
such thing as scouting without the involvement and support of females. Few
would discount the support moms give their sons, but then moms aren't
considered "Scouts" per se and would not likely be represented by the figure
depicted on the coin in question. Most moms support all types of activities
and goals of their sons and daughters equally. They typically served as den
mothers for young Cub Scouts largely because the dad's were working while
afternoon meetings were held. The dads I knew provided most of their their
support in the evenings and on weekends. IMO, having been a cub and boy
scout back when kids handled knives and guns without parents having heart
failure, I would not expect the design of a coin celebrating the history of
the Boy Scouts to feature a female on it. On the other hand, a coin noting
the "progress" of the Boy Scouts as it exists today might, and apparently
does.

Perhaps the design should include an official of the Scouts barring
the door to gays, agnostics, and atheists so the coin would really
reflect the BSA's policies.



--
Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida

"tony cooper" wrote in message
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On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 11:41:28 -0400, "Bruce Remick"
wrote:


"Bones" wrote in message
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On Mar 19, 1:21 am, MKW wrote:
Can someone tell me again why there is a female featured on the Boy
Scout silver dollar?

You should note that BSA does not have a problem with the coin, and so
why should you. But, here have been females involved with the "Boy
Scouts" for a LONG time.
Examples:
Explorer Posts can, and do, have female members.
Den Mothers are a vitally important part of the Cub Scout system.
When a scout earns the Eagle Badge, it is typically his MOTHER that
presents him with the award.
Girls have sued for, and won, the right to be part of Scout Troops --
not common, but it does happen.

For these reasons, and more, "Boy Scouts" have called themselves
"Scouts" for more than 30 years. Basically, if it were not for the
involvement and support of females, there would be not such thing as
Scouting.
===========

Aside from spawning sons, it's a stretch to claim that there would be no
such thing as scouting without the involvement and support of females.
Few
would discount the support moms give their sons, but then moms aren't
considered "Scouts" per se and would not likely be represented by the
figure
depicted on the coin in question. Most moms support all types of
activities
and goals of their sons and daughters equally. They typically served as
den
mothers for young Cub Scouts largely because the dad's were working while
afternoon meetings were held. The dads I knew provided most of their
their
support in the evenings and on weekends. IMO, having been a cub and boy
scout back when kids handled knives and guns without parents having heart
failure, I would not expect the design of a coin celebrating the history
of
the Boy Scouts to feature a female on it. On the other hand, a coin
noting
the "progress" of the Boy Scouts as it exists today might, and apparently
does.

Perhaps the design should include an official of the Scouts barring
the door to gays, agnostics, and atheists so the coin would really
reflect the BSA's policies.

Not necessary. Just a Boy Scout and Cub Scout. All the coin needs to
reflect is the light.

tony cooper wrote:
On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 11:41:28 -0400, "Bruce Remick"
wrote:


"Bones" wrote in message
...
On Mar 19, 1:21 am, MKW wrote:
Can someone tell me again why there is a female featured on the Boy
Scout silver dollar?

You should note that BSA does not have a problem with the coin, and
so
why should you. But, here have been females involved with the "Boy
Scouts" for a LONG time.
Examples:
Explorer Posts can, and do, have female members.
Den Mothers are a vitally important part of the Cub Scout system.
When a scout earns the Eagle Badge, it is typically his MOTHER that
presents him with the award.
Girls have sued for, and won, the right to be part of Scout Troops --
not common, but it does happen.

For these reasons, and more, "Boy Scouts" have called themselves
"Scouts" for more than 30 years. Basically, if it were not for the
involvement and support of females, there would be not such thing as
Scouting.
===========

Aside from spawning sons, it's a stretch to claim that there would
be no such thing as scouting without the involvement and support of
females. Few would discount the support moms give their sons, but
then moms aren't considered "Scouts" per se and would not likely be
represented by the figure depicted on the coin in question. Most
moms support all types of activities and goals of their sons and
daughters equally. They typically served as den mothers for young
Cub Scouts largely because the dad's were working while afternoon
meetings were held. The dads I knew provided most of their their
support in the evenings and on weekends. IMO, having been a cub and
boy scout back when kids handled knives and guns without parents
having heart failure, I would not expect the design of a coin
celebrating the history of the Boy Scouts to feature a female on it.
On the other hand, a coin noting the "progress" of the Boy Scouts as
it exists today might, and apparently does.

Perhaps the design should include an official of the Scouts barring
the door to gays, agnostics, and atheists so the coin would really
reflect the BSA's policies.

They only bar the door to professing gays, agnostics, and atheists. I am
sure there are plenty of each closeted within BSA ranks, just as in the
general population. But, why bring that up? Oops, I just did. Oh, well.

James the Agitator

Bruce Remick wrote:
"tony cooper" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 11:41:28 -0400, "Bruce Remick"
wrote:


"Bones" wrote in message
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On Mar 19, 1:21 am, MKW wrote:
Can someone tell me again why there is a female featured on the Boy
Scout silver dollar?

You should note that BSA does not have a problem with the coin, and
so why should you. But, here have been females involved with the
"Boy Scouts" for a LONG time.
Examples:
Explorer Posts can, and do, have female members.
Den Mothers are a vitally important part of the Cub Scout system.
When a scout earns the Eagle Badge, it is typically his MOTHER that
presents him with the award.
Girls have sued for, and won, the right to be part of Scout Troops
-- not common, but it does happen.

For these reasons, and more, "Boy Scouts" have called themselves
"Scouts" for more than 30 years. Basically, if it were not for the
involvement and support of females, there would be not such thing as
Scouting.
===========

Aside from spawning sons, it's a stretch to claim that there would
be no such thing as scouting without the involvement and support of
females. Few
would discount the support moms give their sons, but then moms
aren't considered "Scouts" per se and would not likely be
represented by the figure
depicted on the coin in question. Most moms support all types of
activities
and goals of their sons and daughters equally. They typically
served as den
mothers for young Cub Scouts largely because the dad's were working
while afternoon meetings were held. The dads I knew provided most
of their their
support in the evenings and on weekends. IMO, having been a cub
and boy scout back when kids handled knives and guns without
parents having heart failure, I would not expect the design of a
coin celebrating the history of
the Boy Scouts to feature a female on it. On the other hand, a coin
noting
the "progress" of the Boy Scouts as it exists today might, and
apparently does.

Perhaps the design should include an official of the Scouts barring
the door to gays, agnostics, and atheists so the coin would really
reflect the BSA's policies.

Not necessary. Just a Boy Scout and Cub Scout. All the coin needs to
reflect is the light.

Is that a deep cameo proof CAC PQ reflection, or just a low-end MS60 level
reflection that you're hoping for?

James On Topic
'I personally like to use my coins as shaving mirrors'

"Mr. Jaggers" lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com wrote in message
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Bruce Remick wrote:
"tony cooper" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 11:41:28 -0400, "Bruce Remick"
wrote:


"Bones" wrote in message
...
On Mar 19, 1:21 am, MKW wrote:
Can someone tell me again why there is a female featured on the Boy
Scout silver dollar?

You should note that BSA does not have a problem with the coin, and
so why should you. But, here have been females involved with the
"Boy Scouts" for a LONG time.
Examples:
Explorer Posts can, and do, have female members.
Den Mothers are a vitally important part of the Cub Scout system.
When a scout earns the Eagle Badge, it is typically his MOTHER that
presents him with the award.
Girls have sued for, and won, the right to be part of Scout Troops
-- not common, but it does happen.

For these reasons, and more, "Boy Scouts" have called themselves
"Scouts" for more than 30 years. Basically, if it were not for the
involvement and support of females, there would be not such thing as
Scouting.
===========

Aside from spawning sons, it's a stretch to claim that there would
be no such thing as scouting without the involvement and support of
females. Few
would discount the support moms give their sons, but then moms
aren't considered "Scouts" per se and would not likely be
represented by the figure
depicted on the coin in question. Most moms support all types of
activities
and goals of their sons and daughters equally. They typically
served as den
mothers for young Cub Scouts largely because the dad's were working
while afternoon meetings were held. The dads I knew provided most
of their their
support in the evenings and on weekends. IMO, having been a cub
and boy scout back when kids handled knives and guns without
parents having heart failure, I would not expect the design of a
coin celebrating the history of
the Boy Scouts to feature a female on it. On the other hand, a coin
noting
the "progress" of the Boy Scouts as it exists today might, and
apparently does.

Perhaps the design should include an official of the Scouts barring
the door to gays, agnostics, and atheists so the coin would really
reflect the BSA's policies.

Not necessary. Just a Boy Scout and Cub Scout. All the coin needs to
reflect is the light.

Is that a deep cameo proof CAC PQ reflection, or just a low-end MS60 level
reflection that you're hoping for?

Most anything would be acceptable as long as it's not a reflection on me.
For some reason, I still have my 1951 BSA registration card which features a
Rockwell-type picture of a Cub Scout, Boy Scout, and what I presume is a Sea
Scout on the front. Maybe the 2010 equivalent registration card includes
some other folks, unless the whole process is done online now. Imagine
teaching young Cubs how to trap and skin animals today. There go the den
mothers.

Bruce Remick wrote:
"Mr. Jaggers" lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com wrote in message
...
Bruce Remick wrote:
"tony cooper" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 11:41:28 -0400, "Bruce Remick"
wrote:


"Bones" wrote in message
...
On Mar 19, 1:21 am, MKW wrote:
Can someone tell me again why there is a female featured on the
Boy Scout silver dollar?

You should note that BSA does not have a problem with the coin,
and so why should you. But, here have been females involved with
the "Boy Scouts" for a LONG time.
Examples:
Explorer Posts can, and do, have female members.
Den Mothers are a vitally important part of the Cub Scout system.
When a scout earns the Eagle Badge, it is typically his MOTHER
that presents him with the award.
Girls have sued for, and won, the right to be part of Scout Troops
-- not common, but it does happen.

For these reasons, and more, "Boy Scouts" have called themselves
"Scouts" for more than 30 years. Basically, if it were not for the
involvement and support of females, there would be not such thing
as Scouting.
===========

Aside from spawning sons, it's a stretch to claim that there would
be no such thing as scouting without the involvement and support
of females. Few
would discount the support moms give their sons, but then moms
aren't considered "Scouts" per se and would not likely be
represented by the figure
depicted on the coin in question. Most moms support all types of
activities
and goals of their sons and daughters equally. They typically
served as den
mothers for young Cub Scouts largely because the dad's were
working while afternoon meetings were held. The dads I knew
provided most of their their
support in the evenings and on weekends. IMO, having been a cub
and boy scout back when kids handled knives and guns without
parents having heart failure, I would not expect the design of a
coin celebrating the history of
the Boy Scouts to feature a female on it. On the other hand, a
coin noting
the "progress" of the Boy Scouts as it exists today might, and
apparently does.

Perhaps the design should include an official of the Scouts barring
the door to gays, agnostics, and atheists so the coin would really
reflect the BSA's policies.

Not necessary. Just a Boy Scout and Cub Scout. All the coin needs
to reflect is the light.

Is that a deep cameo proof CAC PQ reflection, or just a low-end MS60
level reflection that you're hoping for?

Most anything would be acceptable as long as it's not a reflection on
me. For some reason, I still have my 1951 BSA registration card which
features a Rockwell-type picture of a Cub Scout, Boy Scout, and what
I presume is a Sea Scout on the front. Maybe the 2010 equivalent
registration card includes some other folks, unless the whole process
is done online now. Imagine teaching young Cubs how to trap and skin
animals today. There go the den mothers.

Norman Rockwell's world exists only in our dreams. Very pleasant dreams,
but dreams nevertheless. The real world of his era was nastier than most
people imagine.

James, in Deep Reverie