No ECU Notes?

I am working on a paper for my history class (Hist 456 "Europe Since
1945") for honors credit and I chose for my topic the transition from
the ECU to the euro. In the Krause WORLD PAPER MONEY books and in
this Newsgroup, I find a negative: no banknotes were issued
denominated in ECUs. While many coins were issued (17 by the
Netherlands!), paper money tends to be the lawful obligation of the
central bank and therefore less given to causal redesign, whereas
commemorative coins tend to allow transient themes.

Lest I overlook something, can I assume that there were, indeed, no
ECU banknotes, either from Central Banks or from celebratory
individuals?

Thanks!
Mike M.

Lest I overlook something, can I assume that there were, indeed, no
ECU banknotes, either from Central Banks or from celebratory
individuals?

As far as I can remember, in Spain there were some ECU banknote. They were
designed just for mint teaching purposes, and now they are in the museusm of
the mint, as many other tests done by th estudents.

Fernando

Mike Marotta wrote:

While many coins were issued (17 by the Netherlands!), paper money tends
to be the lawful obligation of the central bank and therefore less given
to causal redesign

Apart from test notes which were issued in some member states (and which
were used in very limited areas, like one city only), I don't know of
any. Not sure how official those Dutch ecu "coins" are; they are not
listed in the Muntalmanak for example. And it has definitely not been
the obligation of any central bank to issue ecu notes since the ECU
never went beyond being a "technical" currency unit.

It is relatively difficult now to determine precisely which "ecu coins"
were actually legal tender (the Belgian ones that I mentioned over at
rcc were), which ones were just fantasy issues, and which ones are sort
of in between. In my opinion, an ecu piece which was issued by some
local bank and accepted by a couple of businesses in some city on some
Europe Info Day or Europe Week is not a coin, for example.

So there may well be ecu notes in the sense that a bank/company made
them for a specific occasion. But that is about it ...

Christian

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I am working on a paper for my history class (Hist 456 "Europe Since
1945") for honors credit and I chose for my topic the transition from
the ECU to the euro. In the Krause WORLD PAPER MONEY books and in
this Newsgroup, I find a negative: no banknotes were issued
denominated in ECUs. While many coins were issued (17 by the
Netherlands!), paper money tends to be the lawful obligation of the
central bank and therefore less given to causal redesign, whereas
commemorative coins tend to allow transient themes.

Lest I overlook something, can I assume that there were, indeed, no
ECU banknotes, either from Central Banks or from celebratory
individuals?

Thanks!
Mike M.


For Ecu denominated notes this is the closest you are going to come:

http://www.banknotebank.com/coin_vie...aspx?id=903685

Some villages in both France and Spain issued trial Ecu notes in the very
early 1990's and used them as tests of the new denomination.

On 23 Apr 2007 21:30:59 -0700, Mike Marotta
wrote:

I am working on a paper for my history class (Hist 456 "Europe Since
1945") for honors credit and I chose for my topic the transition from
the ECU to the euro. In the Krause WORLD PAPER MONEY books and in
this Newsgroup, I find a negative: no banknotes were issued
denominated in ECUs. While many coins were issued (17 by the
Netherlands!), paper money tends to be the lawful obligation of the
central bank and therefore less given to causal redesign, whereas
commemorative coins tend to allow transient themes.

Lest I overlook something, can I assume that there were, indeed, no
ECU banknotes, either from Central Banks or from celebratory
individuals?

Apparently there are some:
http://currency_den.tripod.com/testnotes/10ecu.jpg

Padraic


Thanks!
Mike M.

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Dear Mike,
In the early '90s many local issues denominated in ECU were
produced in several Euro Countries. Information is very fragmented given
the local naturee of these issues. All of them were intended mainly for
commemorating specific dates or events and had limited circulation. This
tendency carried on even when it was decided to give a real name to the
European Curreny Unit (ECU) and hence local issues in euro appeared here
and there up late 1998 and probably even further.
The only example reported on the ALFA Catalog of Italian and Euro
Paper Money refers to the 1 ECU issued in Provence in 1994) to
commemorate the 50th Anniversary of the Liberation of France (July
18--August 16, 1994). The note (123mm x 70mm) is printed on paper with
no watermark and in UNC condition is worth more or less 45-60 euro.
Very likely other municipalities and regions issued ECU
denominated notes, but up to now I have not seen any publication
researching on the matter and all information available is very little.
From time to time some of these Euro/ECU vouchers appear on
auction, and prices for them are increasing, given the rising demand for
them, which are becoming collectible items in their own right!!! :-)
Incidentally, the 10 ECU showed in some replies to this thread was
issued at the Expo in Seville in 1992 at the desk of the EU. It is by
far the most widespread of the ECU vouchers, however it is not as common
as it used to be 10 years ago and today it is becoming rather scarse.

Best reagrds to all,
Dr. Giovanni C. Pettinaro
(IBNS LM-166, LANSA 1173).

----------------------------------------------------
Pettinaro Bros. World Paper Money Market

http://www.papermoneymarket.com
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Mike Marotta wrote:
I am working on a paper for my history class (Hist 456 "Europe Since
1945") for honors credit and I chose for my topic the transition from
the ECU to the euro. In the Krause WORLD PAPER MONEY books and in
this Newsgroup, I find a negative: no banknotes were issued
denominated in ECUs. While many coins were issued (17 by the
Netherlands!), paper money tends to be the lawful obligation of the
central bank and therefore less given to causal redesign, whereas
commemorative coins tend to allow transient themes.

Lest I overlook something, can I assume that there were, indeed, no
ECU banknotes, either from Central Banks or from celebratory
individuals?

Thanks!
Mike M.

On Apr 24, 2:39 am, "Fernando de la Cuadra"
wrote:
As far as I can remember, in Spain there were some ECU banknote. They were
designed just for mint teaching purposes, and now they are in the museusm of
the mint, as many other tests done by th estudents.
Fernando

Thanks! I captured your reply and will incorporate it as a footnote.

Christian Feldhaus: "So there may well be ecu notes in the sense that
a bank/company made
them for a specific occasion. But that is about it ... "

Yes, that is what I decided. The books by Krause do not differentiate
well between official issues and fantasy pieces. In the case of paper
money, the issuance of fantassies becomes problematic.

Sibersk, thanks, also for the image. Formal papers for history are
noteworthy for their lack of illustration. I had to re-write my first
two papers for this class because my usual style (Numismatist,
Celator) was unacceptable. I spent more time with the journals and
got familiar with the benchmarks of boredom and then elected to take
this class for honors. Howerver, your link will not go unused, as I
intend to recycle most of this information into a more interesting
presentation.

Mike

"Giovanni C. Pettinaro" wrote in message
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Incidentally, the 10 ECU showed in some replies to this thread was issued
at the Expo in Seville in 1992 at the desk of the EU. It is by far the
most widespread of the ECU vouchers, however it is not as common as it
used to be 10 years ago and today it is becoming rather scarse.


Mine was about a 2DM purchase in Munchen in 1993. Of course Giesecke &
Devrient being based in Munchen, there were then plenty to go around.

Take a look!!!!

http://www.todocoleccion.com/billete...n-cee~x3546130

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On Apr 24, 2:39 am, "Fernando de la Cuadra"
wrote:
As far as I can remember, in Spain there were some ECU banknote. They
were
designed just for mint teaching purposes, and now they are in the museusm
of
the mint, as many other tests done by th estudents.
Fernando

Thanks! I captured your reply and will incorporate it as a footnote.

Christian Feldhaus: "So there may well be ecu notes in the sense that
a bank/company made
them for a specific occasion. But that is about it ... "

Yes, that is what I decided. The books by Krause do not differentiate
well between official issues and fantasy pieces. In the case of paper
money, the issuance of fantassies becomes problematic.

Sibersk, thanks, also for the image. Formal papers for history are
noteworthy for their lack of illustration. I had to re-write my first
two papers for this class because my usual style (Numismatist,
Celator) was unacceptable. I spent more time with the journals and
got familiar with the benchmarks of boredom and then elected to take
this class for honors. Howerver, your link will not go unused, as I
intend to recycle most of this information into a more interesting
presentation.

Mike