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Old November 8th 05, 10:17 AM
Andy
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what is the make and year of youre grocery go getter and do you have any
pictures of it?

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"DeserTBoB" wrote in message
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On Fri, 4 Nov 2005 07:56:21 -0500, (lennon fan)
wrote:

yes, that particular album was very well recorded, and many of the songs
are really top notch. I can live without the free form guitar bit,
tho...
Glad you enjoyed many of your better tapes, those UK carts really are
pretty good, no? snip


No question...UK carts are, as a rule, much superior to US
counterparts. Canadian carts tend to be better dubbed as well, and
have the advantage of Dolby "B", but the disadvantage of fragile
plastic. However, if you can open the shells without cracking the
tabs, they seem to be relatively trouble free.

Pink shell ampex from the mid 70's always sounded like crap to me, Led
Zep is a disaster, the later black shell issues are much better IMO. I
think they were remastered. snip


I agree..."pink" Ampex anything appears to sucketh mightily, as did a
lot of Ampex anything. It's obvious that Ampex was pimping thier
vaunted name in the pro market to sell inferior crap in the consumer
market, as witnessed by those awful rebadged Teac RTR machines they
sold in the '60s and '70s.

On those pink shells, didn't they dub them at about 10,000x the normal
speed? snip


So it would seem! Ampex was one of the earlier developers of high
speed duplication, and they didn't quite get it right back in the 8
track era. Done right, high speed duplication works very well, and
sometimes works better in the bass region than real time at slower
speeds. However, Ampex dupe lines for ¼" and early cassette weren't
well known for flat frequency response or low distortion....in fact,
they were lousy, which left the market wide open for Viking and others
to clean up during the cassette era. However, the old 1950s Ampex
3200 RTR dupe lines were pressed into cart pancake duplication in the
'60s and '70s, and did a better job, although they too were using high
speed duplication, recording the pancakes at 15 IPS. The 3200 lineup
I saw cranking out pancakes in the '70s using all the original Ampex
stuff, except the line amps, which were Viking, and were specifically
made for 4X duplication, as were the Nortronics heads.

dB



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Old November 8th 05, 01:06 PM
66FOURDOOR
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notice how he's avoiding that question, Andy ? It's most likely a
rotted out POS like the VW diesel he owned.

  #13  
Old November 8th 05, 07:47 PM
DeserTBoB
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On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 09:17:23 GMT, "Andy" wrote:

what is the make and year of youre grocery go getter and do you have any
pictures of it? snip


This one's a '77 Honda Accord my uncle bought new, one of only about
10 left running in the largest car state in the union. It has the
CVCC stratified charge combustion chamber, 3 barrel Keihin carburetor
and no catalytic converter (didn't need one). Most bonehead mechanics
do not know how to work on them or do proper machine work to its head.
Thus, I've done everything myself, save for wheel alignment, since it
was nearly new. It has just turned 100K miles and runs very well and
just passed the toughest smog test in the nation...again. It gets 30
MPG around town, and up to 35 on the road. However, my new VW beats
it by at least 40%, although on pricier #2 diesel. I won't be
installing 8 track in the VW.

As with all cars out here, there is no rust, but the clear coat paint
is alkyd based, and thus the excessive UV from the sun (thanks to
ozone layer depletion) has attacked the clear coat. Since the state
is buying old cars like this for $1000 to get them off the road, it
will probably go bye bye next year if it has trouble passing smog.
However, this time, this car only put out 5% of allowed HC and 40% of
allowed CO2, but the problem is NOx...I'm right at the limit, unless I
disconnect the vacuum advance unit. Parts are getting very scarce,
however. I can still get most service parts, but I have to 'net order
oil and air filters anymore. Honda supplies most engine parts, but
anything else is long gone. What's cool about driving this car is
that the 8 track fits right in, and kids think it's "cool retro."
What's not cool about it is it rides like all 1970s japanexe cars, and
is too noisy. Even my '79 VW Rabbit diesel was quieter, and rode a
lot better. It's the only car I have left with 8 track; the other
ones are gone, and when this one goes, that's it for car 8 track for
me.

This car came with a dealer installed Panasonic QC989EU AM/FM 8 track
with crappy 4" in door speakers. I added several modifications,
including removing the internal power amp and channeling line level
output from the first voltage stage out of this to an equalizer,
crossover and a large speaker compliment, including a subwoofer and
some spare E-V horn tweeters. As it turned out, the deck was better
than one might think, except for a susceptibility to arcing noise from
the motor. Some additional power supply filtration took care of that
problem. My MRL test cart shows this deck to be -4 dB at 15 KHz,
better than most home 8 track decks. The FM section is pretty good,
except it has the usual multipath problems all 1970s car FM radios
had. The AM has only fair sensitivity, but has good selectivity. Both
sections are at least as good as those overhyped Pioneer "Stupid
Tuners," as big a fraud as ever foisted in car audio.

I don't have pix of the car and deck right now, but I'll get some soon
as the stupid Sony comes back from warranty repair...AGAIN.

SONY IS BALONEY! FRIENDS DON'T LET FRIENDS BUY SONY!

A close second: Lexmark. If your Lexmark printer/scanner is over a
year old, TOO BAD...they don't even stock parts for them anymore!
Never again. Support for thier pricier lasers is somewhat
better...maybe three years, tops...then, throw it out!

Third place loser: Symantec. Norton Personal Firewall WILL crash
kernels and screw up drives under Win98SE, NT4 or Win2K, it's
inevitable. Since I hate xp, I don't know if it's as bad there.
Symantec's customer service also sucks. Their Anti Virus is a joke,
and is easily shut down by hackers trying to implant trojans. Trend
works much better and is free. Back in the DOS days, Norton's stuff
was an essential tool, and his NDOS command interpreter was better
than any version of MS-DOS. However, once Symantec got to be
corporate bigtime and Peter Norton went away, their software has
turned to useless bloatware...it's crap.

Recommended: The new Forté Agent is much improved, handles multiple
news servers and is rock solid. It's worth buying the upgrade. You
can group NGs into "desks," and refresh only one "desk" at a time, or
refresh everything. Still no searching for missing attachment parts,
a la Xnews, though. Attachment and binary handling is improved as
well, as is the kill/watch filer. I like the way it is programmable
to play a wav file of a toilet flushing every time Charlie Noodles
tries to post/harass me...flush your troubles away with Agent's kill
filer!

dB
  #14  
Old November 9th 05, 12:05 AM
66FOURDOOR
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DeserTBoB wrote:
On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 09:17:23 GMT, "Andy" wrote:

what is the make and year of youre grocery go getter and do you have any
pictures of it? snip


This one's a '77 Honda Accord my uncle bought new, one of only about
10 left running in the largest car state in the union. It has the
CVCC stratified charge combustion chamber, 3 barrel Keihin carburetor
and no catalytic converter (didn't need one). Most bonehead mechanics
do not know how to work on them or do proper machine work to its head.
Thus, I've done everything myself, save for wheel alignment, since it
was nearly new. It has just turned 100K miles and runs very well and
just passed the toughest smog test in the nation...again. It gets 30
MPG around town, and up to 35 on the road. However, my new VW beats
it by at least 40%, although on pricier #2 diesel. I won't be
installing 8 track in the VW.

As with all cars out here, there is no rust, but the clear coat paint
is alkyd based, and thus the excessive UV from the sun (thanks to
ozone layer depletion) has attacked the clear coat. Since the state
is buying old cars like this for $1000 to get them off the road, it
will probably go bye bye next year if it has trouble passing smog.
However, this time, this car only put out 5% of allowed HC and 40% of
allowed CO2, but the problem is NOx...I'm right at the limit, unless I
disconnect the vacuum advance unit. Parts are getting very scarce,
however. I can still get most service parts, but I have to 'net order
oil and air filters anymore. Honda supplies most engine parts, but
anything else is long gone. What's cool about driving this car is
that the 8 track fits right in, and kids think it's "cool retro."
What's not cool about it is it rides like all 1970s japanexe cars, and
is too noisy. Even my '79 VW Rabbit diesel was quieter, and rode a
lot better. It's the only car I have left with 8 track; the other
ones are gone, and when this one goes, that's it for car 8 track for
me.

This car came with a dealer installed Panasonic QC989EU AM/FM 8 track
with crappy 4" in door speakers. I added several modifications,
including removing the internal power amp and channeling line level
output from the first voltage stage out of this to an equalizer,
crossover and a large speaker compliment, including a subwoofer and
some spare E-V horn tweeters. As it turned out, the deck was better
than one might think, except for a susceptibility to arcing noise from
the motor. Some additional power supply filtration took care of that
problem. My MRL test cart shows this deck to be -4 dB at 15 KHz,
better than most home 8 track decks. The FM section is pretty good,
except it has the usual multipath problems all 1970s car FM radios
had. The AM has only fair sensitivity, but has good selectivity. Both
sections are at least as good as those overhyped Pioneer "Stupid
Tuners," as big a fraud as ever foisted in car audio.

I don't have pix of the car and deck right now, but I'll get some soon
as the stupid Sony comes back from warranty repair...AGAIN.



a 1977 Honda ?? (laughter...)

I'd be afraid to drive that at night...for fear the sun may come out,
and someone would see me in it...

  #15  
Old November 9th 05, 01:23 AM
DeserTBoB
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On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 10:47:57 -0800, DeserTBoB
wrote:

On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 09:17:23 GMT, "Andy" wrote:

what is the make and year of youre grocery go getter and do you have any
pictures of it? snip


This one's a '77 Honda Accord my uncle bought new, snip


Hmmm...the toiilet only flushed twice this afternoon. Noodles must be
about to give up the ghost! Or, maybe it's the meds. Either way,
kill filing rules!

dB
  #16  
Old November 9th 05, 02:04 AM
66FOURDOOR
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DeserTBoB wrote:
On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 09:17:23 GMT, "Andy" wrote:

what is the make and year of youre grocery go getter and do you have any
pictures of it? snip


This one's a '77 Honda Accord my uncle bought new, one of only about
10 left running in the largest car state in the union. .AGAIN.



66FOURDOOR wrote:
a 1977 Honda ?? (laughter...)

I'd be afraid to drive that at night...for fear the sun may come out,
and someone would see me in it...


DeserTBoB wrote:
On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 10:47:57 -0800, DeserTBoB
wrote:


damn- Noodles got me again ! please- someone help me- I'm embarassed as hell about

about this ****ty car I have to drive and got slipped up by this question- oh **** don't tell anyone !


dB




(laughter...) we feel your pain, Bob. Those pension checks just ain't
what they used to be. Must be sad having to drive a 28 year old car
every day- my gosh the horror....the horror...

  #17  
Old November 9th 05, 09:34 AM
Andy
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thanks for the reply and yes do let me know when you get pictures of that
classic older car i love them.



"DeserTBoB" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 09:17:23 GMT, "Andy" wrote:

what is the make and year of youre grocery go getter and do you have any
pictures of it? snip


This one's a '77 Honda Accord my uncle bought new, one of only about
10 left running in the largest car state in the union. It has the
CVCC stratified charge combustion chamber, 3 barrel Keihin carburetor
and no catalytic converter (didn't need one). Most bonehead mechanics
do not know how to work on them or do proper machine work to its head.
Thus, I've done everything myself, save for wheel alignment, since it
was nearly new. It has just turned 100K miles and runs very well and
just passed the toughest smog test in the nation...again. It gets 30
MPG around town, and up to 35 on the road. However, my new VW beats
it by at least 40%, although on pricier #2 diesel. I won't be
installing 8 track in the VW.

As with all cars out here, there is no rust, but the clear coat paint
is alkyd based, and thus the excessive UV from the sun (thanks to
ozone layer depletion) has attacked the clear coat. Since the state
is buying old cars like this for $1000 to get them off the road, it
will probably go bye bye next year if it has trouble passing smog.
However, this time, this car only put out 5% of allowed HC and 40% of
allowed CO2, but the problem is NOx...I'm right at the limit, unless I
disconnect the vacuum advance unit. Parts are getting very scarce,
however. I can still get most service parts, but I have to 'net order
oil and air filters anymore. Honda supplies most engine parts, but
anything else is long gone. What's cool about driving this car is
that the 8 track fits right in, and kids think it's "cool retro."
What's not cool about it is it rides like all 1970s japanexe cars, and
is too noisy. Even my '79 VW Rabbit diesel was quieter, and rode a
lot better. It's the only car I have left with 8 track; the other
ones are gone, and when this one goes, that's it for car 8 track for
me.

This car came with a dealer installed Panasonic QC989EU AM/FM 8 track
with crappy 4" in door speakers. I added several modifications,
including removing the internal power amp and channeling line level
output from the first voltage stage out of this to an equalizer,
crossover and a large speaker compliment, including a subwoofer and
some spare E-V horn tweeters. As it turned out, the deck was better
than one might think, except for a susceptibility to arcing noise from
the motor. Some additional power supply filtration took care of that
problem. My MRL test cart shows this deck to be -4 dB at 15 KHz,
better than most home 8 track decks. The FM section is pretty good,
except it has the usual multipath problems all 1970s car FM radios
had. The AM has only fair sensitivity, but has good selectivity. Both
sections are at least as good as those overhyped Pioneer "Stupid
Tuners," as big a fraud as ever foisted in car audio.

I don't have pix of the car and deck right now, but I'll get some soon
as the stupid Sony comes back from warranty repair...AGAIN.

SONY IS BALONEY! FRIENDS DON'T LET FRIENDS BUY SONY!

A close second: Lexmark. If your Lexmark printer/scanner is over a
year old, TOO BAD...they don't even stock parts for them anymore!
Never again. Support for thier pricier lasers is somewhat
better...maybe three years, tops...then, throw it out!

Third place loser: Symantec. Norton Personal Firewall WILL crash
kernels and screw up drives under Win98SE, NT4 or Win2K, it's
inevitable. Since I hate xp, I don't know if it's as bad there.
Symantec's customer service also sucks. Their Anti Virus is a joke,
and is easily shut down by hackers trying to implant trojans. Trend
works much better and is free. Back in the DOS days, Norton's stuff
was an essential tool, and his NDOS command interpreter was better
than any version of MS-DOS. However, once Symantec got to be
corporate bigtime and Peter Norton went away, their software has
turned to useless bloatware...it's crap.

Recommended: The new Forté Agent is much improved, handles multiple
news servers and is rock solid. It's worth buying the upgrade. You
can group NGs into "desks," and refresh only one "desk" at a time, or
refresh everything. Still no searching for missing attachment parts,
a la Xnews, though. Attachment and binary handling is improved as
well, as is the kill/watch filer. I like the way it is programmable
to play a wav file of a toilet flushing every time Charlie Noodles
tries to post/harass me...flush your troubles away with Agent's kill
filer!

dB



  #18  
Old November 9th 05, 12:48 PM
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since when is a rotted out Honda a classic ? In these parts, we call
those "****boxes"

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Old November 9th 05, 12:49 PM
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and you just replied to yourself in this thread

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Old November 9th 05, 06:26 PM
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On Wed, 09 Nov 2005 08:34:57 GMT, "Andy" wrote:

thanks for the reply and yes do let me know when you get pictures of that
classic older car i love them. snip


These were the first of the Japanese econoboxes that had a little
"luxury" to them...if you can call it that. People who remember the
gas crunch of the late '70s value cars that get over 30 MPG. Back
when the CVCC Hondas were the best selling imports around, these sold
especially well because the CVCC engine didn't require a catalytic
converter to meet both California and the more lax Federal emissions
standards. The crap sold today can't get as much mileage, but they
all have something people don't really need...more power. The new VW
Jetta TBI, though, is a much better car, although VW's dealer support
sucks. With the turbo and 6 speed, the VW has a lot of power for a
diesel, but manages to turn in mileage equivalent to my old '79 Rabbit
1500cc diesel, which was naturally aspirated. The new TBI is 1900cc.
RIght now, I'm looking for an aftercooler setup for it.

dB
 




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