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  #21  
Old February 22nd 09, 06:31 AM posted to rec.collecting.coins
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"oly" wrote in message
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I am told by two local veteran ebay coin sellers that they get 1/3 to
1/2 of all U.S. coins that they sell on ebay back for a refund.


I get very few returns.


People are trying (or hoping) to play the crackout game with the
slabs; with raw coins, the same people try to get more than they paid
for in terms of quality, hoping to get the piece in a slab with a high
grade and make a quick buck.

When the small fry who can't even afford to travel to major coin shows
are playing this game, the game is up.


If they really even exist...

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  #22  
Old February 22nd 09, 10:57 AM posted to rec.collecting.coins
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On Feb 22, 12:31*am, "PC" wrote:
"oly" wrote in message

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I am told by two local veteran ebay coin sellers that they get 1/3 to
1/2 of all U.S. coins that they sell on ebay back for a refund.



I get very few returns.



People are trying (or hoping) to play the crackout game with the
slabs; with raw coins, the same people try to get more than they paid
for in terms of quality, hoping to get the piece in a slab with a high
grade and make a quick buck.

When the small fry who can't even afford to travel to major coin shows
are playing this game, the game is up.


If they really even exist...


I was thinking about posting this with your last insult of RF. Then I
held back. But nope, pathetic ****s like PC never shut up
++++++++++++++

My, my what irony.

If a politically correct f**ktard like yourself lived in Illinois, you
would have voted for Blago for Governor twice.

The only other available choices were a respectable white male
Republican and a very fine white woman Republican.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"A 2009 Odious Ode for PC"

It's really a combination of despair, fear and poverty.

He realizes deep down that he's doomed.

He hates his job, but he's desperate to keep it.

He's upside down on a mortage on a ****ty little house in a
diversified neighborhood, ie a slum.

He can't afford to fill up the tank, but his best offer on their $48K
SUV is $3K on Craigslist.

His wife is getting ready to leave with her kayak instructor.

His(?) son is as queer as a $3 bill and he prances around saying
things like "jeepers".

21% of Hennepin County's bandwidth is pix of his daughter's labia
being downloaded across the world.

Under normal circumstances, he should have the common decency to shoot
himself in the head.

But he has no gun.

So he comes here to talk about his imaginary "slabbed coin holdings".

oly
  #23  
Old February 22nd 09, 11:25 AM posted to rec.collecting.coins
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"PC" wrote in message
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"Mr. Jaggers" lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com wrote in message
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Frank wrote:
When slabbed coins trade dealer-to-dealer, the standard terms are that
they trade sight unseen based on the grade on the slab, with the
understanding that the grading service is responsible for any
claims.


Anyone, dealer or collector, who buys coins sight unseen based on the
grade on the slab, does so at his peril, and usually experiences it.


eBay auctions are considered sight unseen by me. The pictures provided
are usually worthless. Having a seller who produces large, clear photos
is truly a rare thing on eBay.



I wonder why??? :-) Billy


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Old February 22nd 09, 12:54 PM posted to rec.collecting.coins
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Bruce Remick wrote:
"Mr. Jaggers" lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com wrote in message
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Bruce Remick wrote:
"Mr. Jaggers" lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com wrote in message
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Bruce Remick wrote:
"oly" wrote in message
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On Feb 21, 6:34 pm, "Mr. Jaggers" lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com
wrote:
PC wrote:
"Mr. Jaggers" lugburzman[at]yahoo[dot]com wrote in message
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Frank wrote:
When slabbed coins trade dealer-to-dealer, the standard terms
are that they trade sight unseen based on the grade on the
slab, with the understanding that the grading service is
responsible for any claims.

Anyone, dealer or collector, who buys coins sight unseen based
on the grade on the slab, does so at his peril, and usually
experiences it.

eBay auctions are considered sight unseen by me. The pictures
provided are usually worthless. Having a seller who produces
large, clear photos is truly a rare thing on eBay.

I guess I've been lucky, as I generally get what I expect. But,
yes, the photo has to be of good quality, showing both sides of
the coin, and have a
return privilege. My purchases are mostly of world coins, so
maybe that is what makes the difference.

James- Hide quoted text -

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I am told by two local veteran ebay coin sellers that they get 1/3
to 1/2 of all U.S. coins that they sell on ebay back for a refund.
People are trying (or hoping) to play the crackout game with the
slabs; with raw coins, the same people try to get more than they
paid for in terms of quality, hoping to get the piece in a slab
with a high grade and make a quick buck.

When the small fry who can't even afford to travel to major coin
shows are playing this game, the game is up.

U.S. slabbed coins are one more good reason to collect world
coins. _______________

I've always wanted to buy a couple nice early thalers and/or
pillar dollars, but have lately become gunshy after hearing so
much about tricky raw Chinese copies. I suppose the only safe
alternative to slabbed examples is to seek out a reliable big
time world coin dealer and to be resigned to paying top price.

Early thalers (late ones, too) are a favorite target for the modern
Chinese counterfeiter, but the pillar dollars have been
counterfeited literally for centuries. It's getting harder and
harder not to get snookered by the unscrupulous these days, so
know your dealer, and there are many well-known and reputable
ones. They are entitled to their fair markup, so even if you have
to pay "top" price, enjoy your coins and bitch not.

James

One of our basic freedoms is the freedom to bitch about a price. I
see it practiced here often. :)


Oh all right, repeat after me: Cripes, you wouldn't believe what I
had to pay that jerk of a dealer for a common pillar dollar in VF. He
must have a boat payment due.

James


Now wait a minute. You said stick with well-known, reputable
dealers. No more jerks, please. There are enough of those in my
area already. Now I need to find a few reputable dealers. Any
recommendations? And I don't trust dealers who are making boat
payments. Same with doctors, dentists, and financial advisors.


I hate it when my dentist takes one look in my mouth and says, "Oh, now I
can get that new Mercedes."

I will send you a private email with info on one of my favorite, if lesser
known, dealers who don't do boats.

James







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Old February 22nd 09, 02:51 PM posted to rec.collecting.coins
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eBay auctions are considered sight unseen by me. The pictures provided
are usually worthless. Having a seller who produces large, clear photos
is truly a rare thing on eBay.


I wonder why??? :-) Billy


The better to rip you off, my dear. Eeeee hehe heheheheh!

  #26  
Old February 22nd 09, 02:55 PM posted to rec.collecting.coins
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"oly" wrote in message
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Looks like I struck a nerve too close to the truth.

First you hijack my thread in order to allege that I am some sort of
crackout gamer. I am not. Now you desperately try to insult me in the most
vulgar and dehumanizing ways you can think of. You look really desperate.
I was right - you are making this stuff up. You, sir, are a liar.

  #27  
Old February 22nd 09, 03:00 PM posted to rec.collecting.coins
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Default A 2009 Odious Ode for PC!!!

On Feb 22, 8:55*am, "PC" wrote:
"oly" wrote in message

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Looks like I struck a nerve too close to the truth.

First you hijack my thread in order to allege that I am some sort of
crackout gamer. *I am not. *Now you desperately try to insult me in the most
vulgar and dehumanizing ways you can think of. *You look really desperate.
I was right - you are making this stuff up. *You, sir, are a liar.


Don't forget PC - you have problems with blackface and you adore Al
Franken.

oly

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Old February 22nd 09, 06:11 PM posted to rec.collecting.coins
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"oly" wrote in message
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*reply not read*

You are as bad as RWF. You have really shown an ugly, low side of yourself.
You should be ashamed.

  #29  
Old February 22nd 09, 08:35 PM posted to rec.collecting.coins
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"PC" wrote in message
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eBay auctions are considered sight unseen by me. The pictures provided
are usually worthless. Having a seller who produces large, clear photos
is truly a rare thing on eBay.


I wonder why??? :-) Billy


The better to rip you off, my dear. Eeeee hehe heheheheh!


Even if the seller provides a large picture of a coin it is often ignored
and bidders bid according to the assigned grade ignoring the information
supplied by the pics. Billy


 




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