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Marten van de Kraats wrote:
Two questions: 1. Am I wrong to think that one should be able to write with a fountain pen several hours or more a day during a period of say a life time without the nib wearing out? Is this also the case with vintage pens? You are not wrong. Well maybe not 100 years at several hours a day but probably a decade to several decades. In the shops they always tell me that gold points last longer than metal points. But how long is longer? Thats plain silly. If any shop tells you that they dont know anything about pens at all. Gold is what? Paper? Plastic? Its metal. No gold ever touches the paper anyhow. On average there is no differentce at all between a gold gold nib vs a good alloy nib. A bad or cheap or poorly made nib of either is another story. 2. One of these days the postman will bring me two packages. One containing a totally mint vacumatic maxima golden pearl in working condition (the seller has an excellent reputation) and a supposedly nice looking Waterman 52 in its supposedly original box. Since I love using the pens I collect, I intend to fill these two pens with ink. Now I keep on hearing that one should fill these vintage pens with blue quink or skrip, the first one being an ink that could be rebranded as a sleeping pill. Is the 'damage' inflicted by my favorites (Pelikan Brilliant Black, Waterman Blue-black and Florida Blue) really irriversable? A pen is made for ink so use what you want. Thats an endless discussion I dont care to restart here I never read anyhwhere where any of the inks you mention will damage a pen. and nothing is irriversable given enough time, talent and money in pens. Frank |
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Marten van de Kraats wrote: Two questions: 1. Am I wrong to think that one should be able to write with a fountain pen several hours or more a day during a period of say a life time without the nib wearing out? Is this also the case with vintage pens? You are not wrong. Well maybe not 100 years at several hours a day but probably a decade to several decades. ....and you can retip the same nib again...and again...and again...so - TAKE CARE OF YOUR PENS!!! They might be around for 400 years! These are not worthless disposable ballpoints!! |
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Scaupaug wrote:
...and you can retip the same nib again...and again...and again...so - TAKE CARE OF YOUR PENS!!! They might be around for 400 years! These are not worthless disposable ballpoints!! Well sorry if this upsets anyone but I'm going to state something here that should be an obvious fact. Any retipped nib or altered nib is never going to be a completely original nib. Any more than a vintage car is ever going to have its original paint once its been repainted. True a nicely repainted car can look good and be far better than a rusted heap. But in all cases one with original paint, if perfect, is worth more than a repainted car. So thats how I view pens. I'm not sure I'd like to see a vintage car repainted over and over and over. Even though it can and has been done. Better to keep it original if at all possible. Odds are few people will ever live long enough to wear out a pen. As for 100-400 years thats someone else's problem not ours. And its very far from certain many of these pens will survive 400 years. Most experts agree many plastics continue their long term gradual cure and many of todays and vintage pens will very likley become dust in less than 400 years. Talk to any plastic expert and they will tell you its an unknown at best. Many consider all celluloid to be eventually doomed for example to crazing, crumbling and dust. Just like concrete seems to be. Its a matter of time. I'd hate to think what a hard rubber pen will be like in 400 years. Hard rubber pens when fresh and new were as pliable as poly plastic. You could step and jump on a hard rubber pen, like say a Waterman 58 and it would just bend to its walls touched and quickly reshape itself. Not so today and they get more brittle each day. Better to worry about the pens we have now and in our lifetime--not other lifetimes. The process is gradual enough so we don't have much to worry about. Its a possible problem for our great, great, grand kids. Frank |
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I'm going to state something here
that should be an obvious fact. Any retipped nib or altered nib is never going to be a completely original nib. Frank and others...I don't care that it is not a factory made retip. When I see a pen with a broken tip that can't write - it is far better to have a new tip than to be in the parts bin....it is akin to replacing a sac that is not an original factory produced sac or a lever that is not installed at the factory but must be replaced if the pen is to function...as the old lever snapped off...etc....etc.... The whole point of a pen repair text, afterall...is to get those pens in the hand doing what they do best instead of being left in some dustbin forever. If you want fanatically original pens...then one might as well take the hobby out back like a horse with a bum leg that can't be made "original" again and shoot it. A retip should also be affordable...not something reserved only for pens above the $200 level due to skewed economics. It should be possible for just about any gold nibbed vintage pen if desired IMO. Also...if a pen is an heirloom and was once your great grandfather's - it may very well be worth a much longer term concern. I have my grandfather's pens...and they are NOT like any others. I do indeed want them to be here in complete usable condition for as long as possible. |
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