It WAS a counterfeit.

As I posted previously this coin was a very obvious contemporary
counterfeit,

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=3962305 956

I am however puzzled by the feedback given by the buyer,

"Nice contemporary Birmingham style counterfeit - better than expected"

I can only presume that they bid on it as a counterfeit and were happy
to pay the £90.88 for it.

The seller however assured prospective bidders that,

" Hello, This, as are all my coins, are guaranteed genuine. All were
bought from major UK coin dealers. The black marks on this coin is the
result of the normal oxidisation process that effects all silver."

How anyone could believe that the coin was genuine is beyond belief as
is shows the base metal core where the silver coating has worn through.
It also has the typical small triangular test cut at 4 o'clock on the
reverse which also reveals the base core.

Billy

On Mon, 04 Apr 2005 17:58:09 GMT, "note.boy"
wrote:

As I posted previously this coin was a very obvious contemporary
counterfeit,

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=3962305 956

I am however puzzled by the feedback given by the buyer,

"Nice contemporary Birmingham style counterfeit - better than expected"

I can only presume that they bid on it as a counterfeit and were happy
to pay the £90.88 for it.

Is a contemporary counterfeit in that condition worth a lot less than
1800 shillings?

The seller however assured prospective bidders that,

" Hello, This, as are all my coins, are guaranteed genuine. All were
bought from major UK coin dealers. The black marks on this coin is the
result of the normal oxidisation process that effects all silver."

Indeed. I got a similar response.

How anyone could believe that the coin was genuine is beyond belief as
is shows the base metal core where the silver coating has worn through.
It also has the typical small triangular test cut at 4 o'clock on the
reverse which also reveals the base core.

I think the only one who believed it was a genuine piece was the
seller. He only left "Fast payment. No problem whatsoever. Thanks" for
the buyer and didn't respond to the feedback left by the seller.
Perhpas he's come to the conclusion that the thing was fake?

Padraic.

Billy

la cieurgeourea provoer mal trasfu
ast meiyoer ke 'l andrext ben trasfu.

In , on 04/04/2005
at 05:58 PM, "note.boy" said:

As I posted previously this coin was a very obvious contemporary
counterfeit,

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=3962305 956

I am however puzzled by the feedback given by the buyer,

"Nice contemporary Birmingham style counterfeit - better than expected"

I can only presume that they bid on it as a counterfeit and were happy to
pay the £90.88 for it.

How much do these run, normally, when offered as fakes?

Nick

Padraic Brown wrote:

On Mon, 04 Apr 2005 17:58:09 GMT, "note.boy"
wrote:

As I posted previously this coin was a very obvious contemporary
counterfeit,

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=3962305 956

I am however puzzled by the feedback given by the buyer,

"Nice contemporary Birmingham style counterfeit - better than expected"

I can only presume that they bid on it as a counterfeit and were happy
to pay the £90.88 for it.

Is a contemporary counterfeit in that condition worth a lot less than
1800 shillings?

To have one with that amount of silvering left is rare, that's maybe why
the buyer paid so much. Billy


The seller however assured prospective bidders that,

" Hello, This, as are all my coins, are guaranteed genuine. All were
bought from major UK coin dealers. The black marks on this coin is the
result of the normal oxidisation process that effects all silver."

Indeed. I got a similar response.

How anyone could believe that the coin was genuine is beyond belief as
is shows the base metal core where the silver coating has worn through.
It also has the typical small triangular test cut at 4 o'clock on the
reverse which also reveals the base core.

I think the only one who believed it was a genuine piece was the
seller. He only left "Fast payment. No problem whatsoever. Thanks" for
the buyer and didn't respond to the feedback left by the seller.
Perhpas he's come to the conclusion that the thing was fake?

Padraic.

Billy

la cieurgeourea provoer mal trasfu
ast meiyoer ke 'l andrext ben trasfu.

This type of contemporary counterfeit isn't seen very often and when it
is it usually has very little of the silvering left, in that condition
£20 to £30 may be the norm but I've not checked completed auctions on
ebay to confirm this.

The one being discussed here may be the best example available anywhere,
hence the price achieved.

Contemporary counterfeits are not my main collecting interest but I
would have been interested in this if the price had been lower. Billy


Nick Knight wrote:

In , on 04/04/2005
at 05:58 PM, "note.boy" said:

As I posted previously this coin was a very obvious contemporary
counterfeit,

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=3962305 956

I am however puzzled by the feedback given by the buyer,

"Nice contemporary Birmingham style counterfeit - better than expected"

I can only presume that they bid on it as a counterfeit and were happy to
pay the £90.88 for it.

How much do these run, normally, when offered as fakes?

Nick