Amazon refund received after 6 weeks

"Willis Yates" wrote in message
.. .
Thanks for all of the unhelpful comments from all the miserable book toads
and assorted losers.

Like Dfkng also at 209.173.190.108?

Finally received the refund check today. The email sent to Jeff Bezos did
the trick.

Glad to close this chapter, but my Amazon buying days are over. Scared to
death to ever place an order there again.

Thanks for all of the unhelpful comments from all the miserable book toads
and assorted losers.

Willis Yates wrote:
Finally received the refund check today. The email sent to Jeff Bezos did
the trick.

Glad to close this chapter, but my Amazon buying days are over. Scared to
death to ever place an order there again.

Thanks for all of the unhelpful comments from all the miserable book toads
and assorted losers.

It seems to me you are going about things
the wrong way. In the first place, did you
read the seller's customer ratings before
you ordered? If they were newbies with
almost no successful sales, you were
taking a big chance ordering from them.
You have to expect that there are going
to be some unsavory scrounges out there
who should not be selling books on the net
in the first place.

On the other hand, if a seller had 4,000 customer
ratings or the past year and had customer ratings
of 92 percent satisfaction, (instead of 98 or 99
percent) that means they had a great many
people who were less than happy with the
transaction and you should have stayed
away from them.

[Yes, I realize that there is a clueless
individual in this group who attempts to
use satistical legerdemain to show that
a 92% customer satisfaction rating on
Amazon is somehow acceptable for
someone who has sold thousands of
books. Actually, 92% for someone
who has sold thousands of books the
past twelve months is terrible, so
don't be fooled by our inept newsgroup
know-it-all. He is basically an
embarrassment to the entire forum.]

Your best buying bets on Amazon are sellers
who have sold at least a few hundred books
and have customer satisfaction ratings very
close to one-hundred percent. (Yes, some
buyers are habitually unreasonable, but there
is no excuse for selling 8,000 books and
having maybe 500 customers less than
satisfied -- that only happens because
of seller greed, laziness, or stupidity or
all three combined in one seller.)

Also, you can prevent problems by
watching for "listing clues." For instance,
I saw an instance where someone was
listing a moderately expensive book,
and in his listing he said, "MAY have
a tear in the dust-jacket" (I emphasized
"may.") Imagine someone cavalier
enough to list a book for $40 but who
cannot say one way or another
whether there is a tear (which
just might be a LARGE tear!) in
the dust jacket! Why not be honest
about it and say "The dust jacket
MAY be in shreds"?!!

Watch for other clues such as the
use of "mint." Coins and stamps
are minted, books are not. Someone
using "mint" in a listing is either a
rank amateur or a vicious ignoramus.
They are best avoided if you the
buyer have any other options.
(I saw one listing where someone
was touting a book as "Factory
fresh"!)

Yes, refunds should be issued
immediately. In the first place,
there is no excuse for listing a
book a seller does not have
in his possesion. If a seller has
made an inventory error and cannot
fill an order, he should apologize and
issue an immediate refund the same
day the order came in or the next
day at the very latest. If that is
too much to ask, then he should
not be on Amazon in the first place.

Anyway, Amazon is providing a
wonderful service to book dealers
and customers. Now that they are
associated with thousands of dealers,
commonsense should tell you that
there will some bad apples in the
barrel.

(memo from the upstairs office)

Willis Yates wrote:
Finally received the refund check today. The email sent to Jeff Bezos did
the trick.

How do you know that?

Glad to close this chapter, but my Amazon buying days are over. Scared to
death to ever place an order there again.

So, in fact, when you posted under the name "Amazon Steals" and using
the subject line "Amazon now commits mail fraud" you were, in fact,
both wrong and bandying about potentially libelous statements? Glad to
see you can admit your mistakes like a man.

Thanks for all of the unhelpful comments from all the miserable book toads
and assorted losers.

No problem. Don't let the doorknob get wedged in your fundament when
you flounce out.

wrote in message
ups.com...


Thanks for your insightful post, but the items ordered were being sold by
Amazon.com itself, not third party sellers.
I received a gift certificate from Jeff Bezos as a goodwill gesture, but I'm
afraid to order there again because my last two orders had to be canceled
after waiting three and four months respectively. If anyone is interested,
I could paste the response from executive customer relations and my email to
Mr. Bezos.

How do you know that?

because that is what the individual in charge of executive consumer
relations stated in their email....directly referencing the email to the CEO

both wrong and bandying about potentially libelous statements?

they would be libelous if one invented the entire affair or continued to
"bandy" them about after already receiving a refund

No problem. Don't let the doorknob get wedged in your fundament when you
flounce out.

if the "toad shoe" fits then wear it

Willis Yates wrote:
they would be libelous if one invented the entire affair or continued to
"bandy" them about after already receiving a refund

Hey Willy (or Amazon Steals, if you prefer) - practically nobody
believes your story and even those who do don't give a rat's ass!
Over the past several years (dating back to the 1990's), I've bought
100's of items from eBay and eBay Marketplace sellers and have had no
problem with those items sold directly by Amazon (delivered promptly)
and only 1 problem with a Marketplace Seller (for which Amazon refunded
my money promptly).
The few returns I've had to make have been replaced or refunded
promptly also.
And now you don't want to use a FREE gift certificate because you're
afraid the order won't come - you seem pretty illogical and, dare I say
it, almost irrational!

wrote:
Watch for other clues such as the
use of "mint." Coins and stamps
are minted, books are not.

Hey brainiac, stamps are PRINTED - you know, like a book!
You do know what a book is, don't you, palmjob?

BobFinnan.com wrote:
Willis Yates wrote:
they would be libelous if one invented the entire affair or continued to
"bandy" them about after already receiving a refund

Hey Willy (or Amazon Steals, if you prefer) - practically nobody
believes your story and even those who do don't give a rat's ass!
Over the past several years (dating back to the 1990's), I've bought
100's of items from eBay and eBay Marketplace sellers and have had no
problem with those items sold directly by Amazon (delivered promptly)
and only 1 problem with a Marketplace Seller (for which Amazon refunded
my money promptly).
The few returns I've had to make have been replaced or refunded
promptly also.
And now you don't want to use a FREE gift certificate because you're
afraid the order won't come - you seem pretty illogical and, dare I say
it, almost irrational!

Ooops, replace references to eBay with Amazon. Mea Culpa!

Over the past several years (dating back to the 1990's), I've bought 100's
of items from eBay and eBay Marketplace sellers and have had no
"BobFinnan.com" wrote in message

Hey, Hardy Boy porker....who gives a rat's ass?
I bet when you go to sleep at night, you fantasize that you're sleeping
between the Hardy Boys wearing a dress don't you?