PCGS slabs 95 counterfeit Morgans and offers to make guarantee good

Phil, whatcha think of this bit? Billy

"Interestingly, many in the numismatic community likely will still
collect these curiosities. They are such good copies that they have
circulated with genuine silver dollars since they were made. As with
some Colonial issues, collectors strive to complete their sets and
include circulating counterfeits of many issues. When the copy is good
enough to fool the rank and file, the imposter has no trouble traveling
in the circle of genuine coins."



Phil DeMayo wrote:

On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 21:59:20 GMT, Anita wrote:

On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 17:49:36 -0400, Phil DeMayo
wrote:

Before you undertake an endeavor such as this keep in mind that
counterfeit and altered coins are defined as contraband in US Code and
are subject to seizure

Additionally, the Department of Justice periodically issues a
directive to the Secret Service reminding them that they may seize any
vehicle used to transport counterfeit coins.

Does this include mail trucks? :-)

My major concern would be that we don't live forever, so counterfeit
or altered coins would have to be marked to keep them from entering
future markets. The idea of marking a coin is very unappealing.

Anita

One poster to this newsgroup would suggest that you only need to mark
the holder containing the coin. That is insufficient.

As I just told Bruce H. in the "Fake 1914-D" thread, the definition of
"imitation numismatic item" in the Hobby Protection Act includes
counterfeit coins. Thus, the word COPY, conforming to the Act's
marking requirements, stamped on one of the faces of the coin is the
way to go.

On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 22:30:44 GMT, "note.boy"
wrote:

Phil, whatcha think of this bit? Billy

"Interestingly, many in the numismatic community likely will still
collect these curiosities. They are such good copies that they have
circulated with genuine silver dollars since they were made. As with
some Colonial issues, collectors strive to complete their sets and
include circulating counterfeits of many issues. When the copy is good
enough to fool the rank and file, the imposter has no trouble traveling
in the circle of genuine coins."

What do you think?

I don't like it and don't think someone from PCGS should be making
comments like that.

In , on 04/27/2005
at 09:59 PM, Anita said:

Does this include mail trucks? :-)

My major concern would be that we don't live forever, so counterfeit or
altered coins would have to be marked to keep them from entering future
markets. The idea of marking a coin is very unappealing.

Pay no attention to Phil. He huffs and puffs, but the fact is, many
collection counterfeits, including myself. Old, historic 175+ year old
counterfeits are of no interest to the SS. He's just an old bag of hot air.
He can make alot of noise, but is otherwise quite harmless. Air isn't worth
all that much, either, if you think about it.

The other ding dong here ... you know, the one who can't tell the difference
between counterfeiting and holding a counterfeit, is almost as bad. I say
almost, because it's easier to see how wacked he is; he oozes it. He's
living in the extreme past, and often post long, boring "fluffy" stories.
At other times, he's connecting dots that aren't there (like the
counterfeiters == counterfeit collectors, and counterfeit collectors ==
terrorists). "Current events" for him is some river, in Ohio, allegedly
burning recently.

The counterfeit saga here is long, old, and boring. If you want to read up
on much of the non-logic often conjured up here, along with some editorial,
you can read this:

http://rcc.servehttp.com/#bogophobe

Do your own research before you buy into the lawyer wannabees. He doesn't
even play one on TV.

Nick

On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 02:09:20 GMT, "Nick Knight"
wrote:

In , on 04/27/2005
at 09:59 PM, Anita said:

Does this include mail trucks? :-)

My major concern would be that we don't live forever, so counterfeit or
altered coins would have to be marked to keep them from entering future
markets. The idea of marking a coin is very unappealing.

Pay no attention to Phil. He huffs and puffs, but the fact is, many

Pay no attention to Nick....he is a documented moron

The counterfeit saga here is long, old, and boring. If you want to read up
on much of the non-logic often conjured up here, along with some editorial,
you can read this:

http://rcc.servehttp.com/#bogophobe

In particular pay no attention to anything he has written on this
webpage. It is a well known joke here in RCC.

PCGS live in the real world, unlike you, where CONTEMPORARY counterfeit
coins are of great interest to collectors.

I think that the value of these coins, now that they are known to be
contemporary counterfeits, will increase in value and NONE will be
stamped as such and NO ONE will be in trouble with the law or secret
service for owning or selling them. Billy


Phil DeMayo wrote:

On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 22:30:44 GMT, "note.boy"
wrote:

Phil, whatcha think of this bit? Billy

"Interestingly, many in the numismatic community likely will still
collect these curiosities. They are such good copies that they have
circulated with genuine silver dollars since they were made. As with
some Colonial issues, collectors strive to complete their sets and
include circulating counterfeits of many issues. When the copy is good
enough to fool the rank and file, the imposter has no trouble traveling
in the circle of genuine coins."

What do you think?

I don't like it and don't think someone from PCGS should be making
comments like that.

I agree with Nick. Billy


Phil DeMayo wrote:

On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 02:09:20 GMT, "Nick Knight"
wrote:

In , on 04/27/2005
at 09:59 PM, Anita said:

Does this include mail trucks? :-)

My major concern would be that we don't live forever, so counterfeit or
altered coins would have to be marked to keep them from entering future
markets. The idea of marking a coin is very unappealing.

Pay no attention to Phil. He huffs and puffs, but the fact is, many

Pay no attention to Nick....he is a documented moron

The counterfeit saga here is long, old, and boring. If you want to read up
on much of the non-logic often conjured up here, along with some editorial,
you can read this:

http://rcc.servehttp.com/#bogophobe

In particular pay no attention to anything he has written on this
webpage. It is a well known joke here in RCC.

On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 21:28:28 GMT, "note.boy"
wrote:

PCGS live in the real world, unlike you, where CONTEMPORARY counterfeit
coins are of great interest to collectors.

No PCGS lives in the world where they grade and authenticate coins.
They can no longer authenticate these fakes and that's why they are
offering the buy back.

In the future they will be body-bagged as counterfeit when submitted
to PCGS.

On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 21:29:57 GMT, "note.boy"
wrote:

I agree with Nick. Billy

No surprise considering you are almost as big an idiot as he is.

It's great that PCGS will authenticate the counterfeits by body bagging
them thus giving security to collectors that they have a genuine
counterfeit and not a counterfeit counterfeit.

I would have thought that they would have been obliged to call the
secret service every time a counterfeit coin is sent into them?

Could they be charged with aiding and abetting?

Would the mail truck be impounded? Billy


Phil DeMayo wrote:

On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 21:28:28 GMT, "note.boy"
wrote:

PCGS live in the real world, unlike you, where CONTEMPORARY counterfeit
coins are of great interest to collectors.

No PCGS lives in the world where they grade and authenticate coins.
They can no longer authenticate these fakes and that's why they are
offering the buy back.

In the future they will be body-bagged as counterfeit when submitted
to PCGS.

Ah ha, the phil defence, when you don't have one start name calling as
it makes you look clever, you think.

Try harder to defend your position, please just don't just roll over in
defeat to have your belly tickled.

I'm willing to give you another chance, go on, have another go. Billy


Phil DeMayo wrote:

On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 21:29:57 GMT, "note.boy"
wrote:

I agree with Nick. Billy

No surprise considering you are almost as big an idiot as he is.