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Old November 13th 06, 05:18 PM posted to alt.atheism,alt.society.liberalism,alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic,rec.collecting.stamps.discuss,uk.misc
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Santa replaces Christ in Christmas stamps


The Daily Express ^ | 07/11/06 | Cyril Dixon


Posted on 11/07/2006 1:44:20 AM PST by Mrs Ivan


BUNGLING mail chiefs were yesterday accused of taking the Christ out of
Christmas.

They unveiled this year's festive stamps - which ignore the
season's holy background.

Furious Christian politicians joined the Church of England to condemn
the Royal Mail over its six faith-free designs.

Instead of biblical scenes like the Nativity, the Star of Bethlehem and
the Three Wise Men, executives opted for secular symbols including
snowmen, reindeer and Santa Claus.

Last night critics accused the Royal Mail of snubbing Britain's
Christian heritage in a politically-correct bid to avoid offending
other religions.

A Church of England spokesman said: "Last year they came up with some
very innovative designs which reminded people of the true meaning of
Christmas, so we welcomed it.

"We regret that they haven't carried on. I am sure lots of Christians
will regret that they haven't carried on in the same way as well."

Tory MP David Burrowes said: "It is a great shame that they are
treating it as just another secular festival, because we have enough of
those throughout the year.

"Christmas is about celebrating the birth of Christ and it makes sense
that the Royal Mail does likewise."

Mr Burrowes, who represents Enfield Southgate and is a founder member
of the Conservative Christian Fellowship, added: "It is strange how a
country with a Christian heritage does not celebrate Christmas in a
straightforward way.

"My constituency has a high proportion of Hindus and they are always
asking me why, in a Christian country, we don't celebrate Christmas."


Stephen Crabb, the Tory MP for Preseli Pembrokeshire and another
Fellowship member, said: "Removing faith from Christmas is to neuter it
as a festival.

"It simply becomes a festival of materialism and that is not what it
was meant to be about. I am dismayed and disappointed by the decision
of the Royal Mail."

Dr Christina Baxter, who sits on the Archbishops' Council of the C of
E's General Synod, said: "I am deeply disappointed and I think a
large majority of people in this country will also regret the Royal
Mail's decision."

Stephen Green, national director of Christian Voice pressure group
added: "They probably did it to avoid causing offence to some - but I
for one am deeply offended by this."

Last year's religious designs also sparked fury among Hindus, who
objected to an image of a woman with traditional Hindu markings
pictured worshipping Christ as a baby.

Ramesh Kallidai, head of the Hindu Forum of Britain, urged his members
and other Hindus to send unstamped protest letters to the Royal
Mail's headquarters.

This year's collection, which goes on sale today, is the Royal
Mail's 40th set of Christmas stamps and the first festive set to
include first and second-class stamps in two sizes.

Other traditions to be axed in Britain under political correctness
include Christmas lights - banned by some health and safety officials
worried about people injuring themselves while putting them up.

The stamp controversy is a result of the Royal Mail's policy of
alternating between religious and non-religious designs each Christmas.
A spokesman said yesterday the festive stamp collections had always
alternated.

"It is about celebrating all elements of Christmas," he said. "It is
something that we have always done. I think people will see this
year's issue of stamps as a first class set of Christmas stamps."

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Old November 13th 06, 05:22 PM posted to alt.atheism,alt.society.liberalism,alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic,rec.collecting.stamps.discuss,uk.misc
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On 13 Nov 2006 09:18:52 -0800, "Sound of Trumpet"
wrote:


That stinks. Instead of Christmas, Xmas or whatever it'll now be
referred to as SantaMas.

Although not a truly "religious" type, I just think that the whole
thing around it - the trappings of commercialism is simply FOUL.

YMMV.



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Santa replaces Christ in Christmas stamps


The Daily Express ^ | 07/11/06 | Cyril Dixon


Posted on 11/07/2006 1:44:20 AM PST by Mrs Ivan


BUNGLING mail chiefs were yesterday accused of taking the Christ out of
Christmas.

They unveiled this year's festive stamps - which ignore the
season's holy background.

Furious Christian politicians joined the Church of England to condemn
the Royal Mail over its six faith-free designs.

Instead of biblical scenes like the Nativity, the Star of Bethlehem and
the Three Wise Men, executives opted for secular symbols including
snowmen, reindeer and Santa Claus.

Last night critics accused the Royal Mail of snubbing Britain's
Christian heritage in a politically-correct bid to avoid offending
other religions.

A Church of England spokesman said: "Last year they came up with some
very innovative designs which reminded people of the true meaning of
Christmas, so we welcomed it.

"We regret that they haven't carried on. I am sure lots of Christians
will regret that they haven't carried on in the same way as well."

Tory MP David Burrowes said: "It is a great shame that they are
treating it as just another secular festival, because we have enough of
those throughout the year.

"Christmas is about celebrating the birth of Christ and it makes sense
that the Royal Mail does likewise."

Mr Burrowes, who represents Enfield Southgate and is a founder member
of the Conservative Christian Fellowship, added: "It is strange how a
country with a Christian heritage does not celebrate Christmas in a
straightforward way.

"My constituency has a high proportion of Hindus and they are always
asking me why, in a Christian country, we don't celebrate Christmas."


Stephen Crabb, the Tory MP for Preseli Pembrokeshire and another
Fellowship member, said: "Removing faith from Christmas is to neuter it
as a festival.

"It simply becomes a festival of materialism and that is not what it
was meant to be about. I am dismayed and disappointed by the decision
of the Royal Mail."

Dr Christina Baxter, who sits on the Archbishops' Council of the C of
E's General Synod, said: "I am deeply disappointed and I think a
large majority of people in this country will also regret the Royal
Mail's decision."

Stephen Green, national director of Christian Voice pressure group
added: "They probably did it to avoid causing offence to some - but I
for one am deeply offended by this."

Last year's religious designs also sparked fury among Hindus, who
objected to an image of a woman with traditional Hindu markings
pictured worshipping Christ as a baby.

Ramesh Kallidai, head of the Hindu Forum of Britain, urged his members
and other Hindus to send unstamped protest letters to the Royal
Mail's headquarters.

This year's collection, which goes on sale today, is the Royal
Mail's 40th set of Christmas stamps and the first festive set to
include first and second-class stamps in two sizes.

Other traditions to be axed in Britain under political correctness
include Christmas lights - banned by some health and safety officials
worried about people injuring themselves while putting them up.

The stamp controversy is a result of the Royal Mail's policy of
alternating between religious and non-religious designs each Christmas.
A spokesman said yesterday the festive stamp collections had always
alternated.

"It is about celebrating all elements of Christmas," he said. "It is
something that we have always done. I think people will see this
year's issue of stamps as a first class set of Christmas stamps."


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Old November 13th 06, 05:57 PM posted to alt.atheism,alt.society.liberalism,alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic,rec.collecting.stamps.discuss,uk.misc
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In article .com,
Sound of Trumpet wrote:

BUNGLING mail chiefs were yesterday accused of taking the Christ out of
Christmas.


About time too.

At least Santa exists.

They unveiled this year's festive stamps - which ignore the
season's holy background.


That's *holly* background. You don't mean you've been misreading it
all this time, do you?

-- Richard
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in some alphabets" - X3.4, 1963.
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Old November 13th 06, 06:06 PM posted to alt.atheism,alt.society.liberalism,alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic,rec.collecting.stamps.discuss,uk.misc
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Sound of Trumpet wrote:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1733840/posts


Santa replaces Christ in Christmas stamps


The Daily Express ^ | 07/11/06 | Cyril Dixon


Posted on 11/07/2006 1:44:20 AM PST by Mrs Ivan


BUNGLING mail chiefs were yesterday accused of taking the Christ out of
Christmas.

They unveiled this year's festive stamps - which ignore the
season's holy background.

Furious Christian politicians joined the Church of England to condemn
the Royal Mail over its six faith-free designs.

Instead of biblical scenes like the Nativity, the Star of Bethlehem and
the Three Wise Men, executives opted for secular symbols including
snowmen, reindeer and Santa Claus.

Last night critics accused the Royal Mail of snubbing Britain's
Christian heritage in a politically-correct bid to avoid offending
other religions.

A Church of England spokesman said: "Last year they came up with some
very innovative designs which reminded people of the true meaning of
Christmas, so we welcomed it.

"We regret that they haven't carried on. I am sure lots of Christians
will regret that they haven't carried on in the same way as well."

Tory MP David Burrowes said: "It is a great shame that they are
treating it as just another secular festival, because we have enough of
those throughout the year.

"Christmas is about celebrating the birth of Christ and it makes sense
that the Royal Mail does likewise."

Mr Burrowes, who represents Enfield Southgate and is a founder member
of the Conservative Christian Fellowship, added: "It is strange how a
country with a Christian heritage does not celebrate Christmas in a
straightforward way.

"My constituency has a high proportion of Hindus and they are always
asking me why, in a Christian country, we don't celebrate Christmas."


Stephen Crabb, the Tory MP for Preseli Pembrokeshire and another
Fellowship member, said: "Removing faith from Christmas is to neuter it
as a festival.

"It simply becomes a festival of materialism and that is not what it
was meant to be about. I am dismayed and disappointed by the decision
of the Royal Mail."

Dr Christina Baxter, who sits on the Archbishops' Council of the C of
E's General Synod, said: "I am deeply disappointed and I think a
large majority of people in this country will also regret the Royal
Mail's decision."

Stephen Green, national director of Christian Voice pressure group
added: "They probably did it to avoid causing offence to some - but I
for one am deeply offended by this."

Last year's religious designs also sparked fury among Hindus, who
objected to an image of a woman with traditional Hindu markings
pictured worshipping Christ as a baby.

Ramesh Kallidai, head of the Hindu Forum of Britain, urged his members
and other Hindus to send unstamped protest letters to the Royal
Mail's headquarters.

This year's collection, which goes on sale today, is the Royal
Mail's 40th set of Christmas stamps and the first festive set to
include first and second-class stamps in two sizes.

Other traditions to be axed in Britain under political correctness
include Christmas lights - banned by some health and safety officials
worried about people injuring themselves while putting them up.

The stamp controversy is a result of the Royal Mail's policy of
alternating between religious and non-religious designs each Christmas.
A spokesman said yesterday the festive stamp collections had always
alternated.

"It is about celebrating all elements of Christmas," he said. "It is
something that we have always done. I think people will see this
year's issue of stamps as a first class set of Christmas stamps."


Well tbh, we should be having Saturnalia stamps anyway, if you want to
pull the "I was here first" whinge.

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Old November 13th 06, 06:15 PM posted to alt.atheism,alt.society.liberalism,alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic,rec.collecting.stamps.discuss,uk.misc
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Sound of Trumpet wrote:


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1733840/posts


Santa replaces Christ in Christmas stamps


Maybe it's his birthday too?

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Old November 13th 06, 06:48 PM posted to alt.atheism,alt.society.liberalism,alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic,rec.collecting.stamps.discuss,uk.misc
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The solution is simple: Have a traditional Xmas set; have a Hindu stamp or
two at a suitable Hindu festival; have some other religious holiday (if
there is a large enough constituency) for other religions.

Tony

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Santa replaces Christ in Christmas stamps


The Daily Express ^ | 07/11/06 | Cyril Dixon


Posted on 11/07/2006 1:44:20 AM PST by Mrs Ivan


BUNGLING mail chiefs were yesterday accused of taking the Christ out of
Christmas.

They unveiled this year's festive stamps - which ignore the
season's holy background.

Furious Christian politicians joined the Church of England to condemn
the Royal Mail over its six faith-free designs.

Instead of biblical scenes like the Nativity, the Star of Bethlehem and
the Three Wise Men, executives opted for secular symbols including
snowmen, reindeer and Santa Claus.

Last night critics accused the Royal Mail of snubbing Britain's
Christian heritage in a politically-correct bid to avoid offending
other religions.

A Church of England spokesman said: "Last year they came up with some
very innovative designs which reminded people of the true meaning of
Christmas, so we welcomed it.

"We regret that they haven't carried on. I am sure lots of Christians
will regret that they haven't carried on in the same way as well."

Tory MP David Burrowes said: "It is a great shame that they are
treating it as just another secular festival, because we have enough of
those throughout the year.

"Christmas is about celebrating the birth of Christ and it makes sense
that the Royal Mail does likewise."

Mr Burrowes, who represents Enfield Southgate and is a founder member
of the Conservative Christian Fellowship, added: "It is strange how a
country with a Christian heritage does not celebrate Christmas in a
straightforward way.

"My constituency has a high proportion of Hindus and they are always
asking me why, in a Christian country, we don't celebrate Christmas."


Stephen Crabb, the Tory MP for Preseli Pembrokeshire and another
Fellowship member, said: "Removing faith from Christmas is to neuter it
as a festival.

"It simply becomes a festival of materialism and that is not what it
was meant to be about. I am dismayed and disappointed by the decision
of the Royal Mail."

Dr Christina Baxter, who sits on the Archbishops' Council of the C of
E's General Synod, said: "I am deeply disappointed and I think a
large majority of people in this country will also regret the Royal
Mail's decision."

Stephen Green, national director of Christian Voice pressure group
added: "They probably did it to avoid causing offence to some - but I
for one am deeply offended by this."

Last year's religious designs also sparked fury among Hindus, who
objected to an image of a woman with traditional Hindu markings
pictured worshipping Christ as a baby.

Ramesh Kallidai, head of the Hindu Forum of Britain, urged his members
and other Hindus to send unstamped protest letters to the Royal
Mail's headquarters.

This year's collection, which goes on sale today, is the Royal
Mail's 40th set of Christmas stamps and the first festive set to
include first and second-class stamps in two sizes.

Other traditions to be axed in Britain under political correctness
include Christmas lights - banned by some health and safety officials
worried about people injuring themselves while putting them up.

The stamp controversy is a result of the Royal Mail's policy of
alternating between religious and non-religious designs each Christmas.
A spokesman said yesterday the festive stamp collections had always
alternated.

"It is about celebrating all elements of Christmas," he said. "It is
something that we have always done. I think people will see this
year's issue of stamps as a first class set of Christmas stamps."




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Old November 13th 06, 07:14 PM posted to alt.atheism,alt.society.liberalism,alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic,rec.collecting.stamps.discuss,uk.misc
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Sound of Trumpet wrote:


Tory MP David Burrowes said: "It is a great shame that they are
treating it as just another secular festival, because we have enough of
those throughout the year.


In my area Christmas started in early October. The government isn't
forcing people to buy into the fake meaning of Christmas, we all buy
into it. I dare one of these Christian nay-sayers to skip buying
presents for their children. In other words, put up or shut up. Whether
you like it or not, Christmas has been a secular holiday for a very long
time. Christians made it that way - no one else could have.

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Sound of Trumpet wrote:


A Church of England spokesman said: "Last year they came up with some
very innovative designs which reminded people of the true meaning of
Christmas, so we welcomed it.

"We regret that they haven't carried on. I am sure lots of Christians
will regret that they haven't carried on in the same way as well."
as a first class set of Christmas stamps."


Church attendance in England is what, around 11%? Doesn't sound like a
particularly Christian country to me.

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raven1 wrote:
Sound of Trumpet wrote:


A Church of England spokesman said: "Last year they came up with some
very innovative designs which reminded people of the true meaning of
Christmas, so we welcomed it.

"We regret that they haven't carried on. I am sure lots of Christians
will regret that they haven't carried on in the same way as well."
as a first class set of Christmas stamps."


Church attendance in England is what, around 11%? Doesn't sound like a
particularly Christian country to me.


Well, the minority does have a voice so I say let them speak.....for
whatever good it does.
Seems like the USA had a bunch of Santa/Snowmen stamps a couple years
back.
I look to see them written in Spanish next year.....the minority does
have a voice..

Ralphael, the OLD one

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"Richard Tobin" wrote in message
...
In article .com,
Sound of Trumpet wrote:

BUNGLING mail chiefs were yesterday accused of taking the Christ

out of
Christmas.


About time too.

At least Santa exists.


ExisTED....what, you think he's still alive?

They unveiled this year's festive stamps - which ignore the
season's holy background.


That's *holly* background. You don't mean you've been misreading it
all this time, do you?


Holly Hop! How fast are we going now?

 




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