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The First Art Stamp Ever?
"amesh" schrieb im Newsbeitrag . .. C'mon guys and gals, What was the earliest art stamp in *your* country? Mette For Germany it could be 1900, Michel # 64, 2 Reichsmark, its a detail of the painting "North and South" by Anton von Werner (1843 - 1915). Best regards Gerhard |
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The First Art Stamp Ever?
Mette:
Based on your definition, pick one of the following. ===================================== Postal Administration: Canada Title: Queen Victoria Denomination: 12d Date of Issue: 14 June 1851 http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/ap/s/s000031k_a1.jpg Based on a painting by Alfred Edward Chalon Portrait engraved by Alfred Jones Original Artwork: Alfred Edward Chalon, "Queen Victoria", 1837 First definitive stamp showing portrait of a monarch based on a painting. ========================================= Postal Administration: Canada Title: L'Abitation de Québecq Denomination: 5¢ Date of Issue: 16 July 1908 http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/ap/s/s000154k.jpg Designed by José Antonio Machado Engraved by Elie Timothée Loizeaux Based on a drawing by Samuel de Champlain First commemorative of a historical event based on a drawing of that period. ====================================== Postal Administration: Canada Title: Confederation, 1867-1917 Denomination: 3¢ Date of Issue: 15 September 1917 http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/ap/s/s000199k.jpg Based on a painting by Robert Harris Engraved by Edwin H. Gunn Original Artwork: Robert Harris, "The Fathers of Confederation", 1883-1884 First commemorative of a historical event showing a painting of the event. ====================================== Postal Administration: Canada Title: Alaska Highway between Watson Lake and Nelson Denomination: 8¢ Date of Issue: 8 February 1967 http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/ap/s/s000513k.jpg Based on a painting by Alexander Young Jackson Picture engraved by Allan Alexander Carswell Lettering engraved by Gordon Mash Designed by Rapid Grip and Batten Limited Original Artwork: Alexander Young Jackson, "Alaska Highway between Watson Lake and Nelson", 1943 , National Gallery of Canada, Ottawa, Ontario First definitives to show Canadian paintings. ======================================= Postal Administration: Canada Title: Suzor-Côté, 1869-1937 Denomination: 50¢ Date of Issue: 14 March 1969 http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/ap/s/s000555k.jpg Based on a painting by Marc-Aurèle de Foy Suzor-Côté Original Artwork: Marc-Aurèle de Foy Suzor-Côté, "Return from the Harvest Field", 1903 National Gallery of Canada, Ottawa, Ontario First Canadian commemorative stamp issued to commemorate a specific artist. ========================================= Best Regards Blair |
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Why a need for the third?
If the second hanging fails, one gets a reprieve. Even more symbolic were the 1 to 3 hangman's nooses | placed on Italian letters to signify the degree of urgency. | (ie the degree of punishment to the messenger for | delaying the message.) 8*) | | Blair | |
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Death penalties [was The First Art Stamp Ever?]
Even more symbolic were the 1 to 3 hangman's nooses
placed on Italian letters to signify the degree of urgency. (ie the degree of punishment to the messenger for delaying the message.) 8*) Blair Why a need for the third? If the second hanging fails, one gets a reprieve. Rodney He he he ! Here you can see the superiority of the French system as opposed to the British one : our guillotine never failed. Thus, no need for any reprieve ! :-)))) To come back to the topic and to Mette's question : I think Didier answered correctly for France (Lion of Belfort and Arc of Triumph sculptures) : stamps issued in 1917. But I prefer by far the French art series of the early 1960's mentioned by Mette in her 1st post. -- Pierre Courtiade |
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The First Art Stamp Ever?
Very nice picks Blair :-)
I like the Alaska Highway by Jackson, who was a member of The Group of Seven. This stamp is in my collection, and I will add the technical details to my website about Jackson. L'Abitation de Québecq is a wonderful stamp! Thanks, and Best regards Mette "Blair (TC)" skrev i en meddelelse oups.com... Mette: Based on your definition, pick one of the following. ===================================== Postal Administration: Canada Title: Queen Victoria Denomination: 12d Date of Issue: 14 June 1851 http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/ap/s/s000031k_a1.jpg Based on a painting by Alfred Edward Chalon Portrait engraved by Alfred Jones Original Artwork: Alfred Edward Chalon, "Queen Victoria", 1837 First definitive stamp showing portrait of a monarch based on a painting. ========================================= Postal Administration: Canada Title: L'Abitation de Québecq Denomination: 5¢ Date of Issue: 16 July 1908 http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/ap/s/s000154k.jpg Designed by José Antonio Machado Engraved by Elie Timothée Loizeaux Based on a drawing by Samuel de Champlain First commemorative of a historical event based on a drawing of that period. ====================================== Postal Administration: Canada Title: Confederation, 1867-1917 Denomination: 3¢ Date of Issue: 15 September 1917 http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/ap/s/s000199k.jpg Based on a painting by Robert Harris Engraved by Edwin H. Gunn Original Artwork: Robert Harris, "The Fathers of Confederation", 1883-1884 First commemorative of a historical event showing a painting of the event. ====================================== Postal Administration: Canada Title: Alaska Highway between Watson Lake and Nelson Denomination: 8¢ Date of Issue: 8 February 1967 http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/ap/s/s000513k.jpg Based on a painting by Alexander Young Jackson Picture engraved by Allan Alexander Carswell Lettering engraved by Gordon Mash Designed by Rapid Grip and Batten Limited Original Artwork: Alexander Young Jackson, "Alaska Highway between Watson Lake and Nelson", 1943 , National Gallery of Canada, Ottawa, Ontario First definitives to show Canadian paintings. ======================================= Postal Administration: Canada Title: Suzor-Côté, 1869-1937 Denomination: 50¢ Date of Issue: 14 March 1969 http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/ap/s/s000555k.jpg Based on a painting by Marc-Aurèle de Foy Suzor-Côté Original Artwork: Marc-Aurèle de Foy Suzor-Côté, "Return from the Harvest Field", 1903 National Gallery of Canada, Ottawa, Ontario First Canadian commemorative stamp issued to commemorate a specific artist. ========================================= Best Regards Blair |
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"Rodney" skrev i en meddelelse
... Well, for Australia, I'd guess.......... A painting by Virgil Reilly shown on the front cover of Australia's favourite Womens magazine in 1939 inspired Frank Manly for the 1940 Oz issues. The 3 servicemen shown in the painting, were killed during the war. The nurse is the artist's wife. All persons used in the stamp design survived the war. http://cjoint.com/data/ljxDYz30CL.htm apologies for poor example. Nice commemorative with an interesting story. Mette | C'mon guys and gals, | What was the earliest art stamp in *your* country? | | Mette | | | |
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Thank you Gerhard, I'll find an image in my e-archive.
Mette "Gerhard Reichert" skrev i en meddelelse ... "amesh" schrieb im Newsbeitrag . .. C'mon guys and gals, What was the earliest art stamp in *your* country? Mette For Germany it could be 1900, Michel # 64, 2 Reichsmark, its a detail of the painting "North and South" by Anton von Werner (1843 - 1915). Best regards Gerhard |
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Hi again Mette,
if You found a picture of this painting, I would appreciate an Url for it. The second art on stamps in Germany was Michel # 351 - 354, the welfare issue of 1924, with scenes of the living of St. Elisabeth, painted by Moritz von Schwind, 1804 - 1871. The same pictures were used for the very expensive block issue 1933, Michel # 508 -511. The next one, I found, was Michel # 700, 1939, Picture of a Venice Lady by Albrecht Dürer (1471 - 1528). 1944, Michel # 902 and 903 a piece of a goldsmith, the "Nautilusbecher" of Dresden, made by Eberhard Quippe in the year 1689. It´s interesting, really, I never before looked for this. Have a fine day. Gerhard "amesh" schrieb im Newsbeitrag ... Thank you Gerhard, I'll find an image in my e-archive. Mette "Gerhard Reichert" skrev i en meddelelse ... "amesh" schrieb im Newsbeitrag . .. C'mon guys and gals, What was the earliest art stamp in *your* country? Mette For Germany it could be 1900, Michel # 64, 2 Reichsmark, its a detail of the painting "North and South" by Anton von Werner (1843 - 1915). Best regards Gerhard |
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The First Art Stamp Ever?
"Gerhard Reichert" skrev i
en meddelelse ... Hi again Mette, if You found a picture of this painting, I would appreciate an Url for it. The second art on stamps in Germany was Michel # 351 - 354, the welfare issue of 1924, with scenes of the living of St. Elisabeth, painted by Moritz von Schwind, 1804 - 1871. The same pictures were used for the very expensive block issue 1933, Michel # 508 -511. The next one, I found, was Michel # 700, 1939, Picture of a Venice Lady by Albrecht Dürer (1471 - 1528). 1944, Michel # 902 and 903 a piece of a goldsmith, the "Nautilusbecher" of Dresden, made by Eberhard Quippe in the year 1689. It´s interesting, really, I never before looked for this. Hi again, Gerhard, Sorry, I mixed up Germany with Deutsches Reich. It is from the Bundesrepublik I have the images. At this moment I can only provide the small thumbnails from my (ooold) Michel Germany 1997/98. I will look around and see if it's possible to find proper images elsewhere. BTW, I like that Nautilusbecher (#902-903) :-) Mette |
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The First Art Stamp Ever?
"Dominique Stéphan" skrev i en meddelelse
... amesh a écrit: "Gerhard Reichert" skrev i en meddelelse ... - snip Hello, As pointed out by Gerhard, all stamps are somehow art (well, a few exceptions exist, I don't think Blue Boy qualifies as art). Well-known artists (known for arts outside the stamp world) have designed stamps, even definitive stamps (Jean Cocteau made a Marianne for instance), and most stamp artists also produce art. So I see 2 ways to define Art on Stamp : 1) by the stamp subject : is it Art ? The answer can generally be answered by yes or no. For instance, all stamps designed by Decaris are not Art on Stamp, but the one issued about Decaris is ! The Liberty by Delacroix is Art on Stamp when reproduced in 1999, but is not when it's the definitive set engraved by Gandon. 2) by the stamp illustration : is it Art ? Well, you can make your opinion the large way (always or so), or make some personal choices : reproduction of existing art (so, if the painting is done for the stamp, it's no more art ?), if the art is from a "big" name, ... As it's a matter of personal taste (or "expert" taste), you basically have to decide what is art and what is not... In this case, I don't see how to agree for the first "Art on Stamp" stamp ! My personal taste would be the Black Penny, as it's Art in many ways : reproduction of a medal, great adaption to plane design, and great engraving. There is another way to see Art & Stamp, it's to collect the actual art : original drawings and also die proofs (when the dies are from the hand of an engraver) are Art, not mere reproductions ! It's quite interesting to see how differently collectors perceive "art". I think that the answer to the original question, quoted from Topical Time, boils down to that there is no given answer, and that any collector should make his own definition. Personally I can accept the French stamps with the Ceres-head as "art", since they reproduce an artwork of the mythological figure. And I can also accept art designs specially made for the stamp format by a recognized artist. But engravings are not "art on stamps" to me, but rather philatelic art, which is quite different :-) Mette |
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