Turkish Constantinople City post - help please

I'm having difficulty deciphering my Michel catalogue to understand what
the differences are between the four authentication marks they list.

The catalogue only illustrates 3 of them (type I, Ia, II) while it has a
table that also refers to a type III. It also says that there are more
specialised varieties.

Here's a scan of the images the catalogue shows:
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s...Citymichel.jpg

This one's quite easy as type Ia according to the image above:
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s...urkeyCityc.jpg

I think this is type I with a continuous circle:
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s...urkeyCityb.jpg

and this is type II with dots around the circle:
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s...urkeyCitya.jpg

Can someone please confirm this is correct, or set me right !

I've got no idea what type III looks like ? Anyone help please !


Regards,
Nick

I have a 2006/07 Michel SE Europe, and it doesn't have much more
information beyond what you have already mentioned. It says the 4
different types of overprint are "significantly" / "substantially"
different. It's known from the table that Type III exists only in blue
and only on Michel 11, 12 & 13 - the only other overprint type used on
those three issues is Type II (in all 4 different overprint colours), so
at least that narrows down your possibilities for Type III. Must be
blue, must not be Type II, must be on Michel 11, 12 or 13.
I agree with your determination of which types you have on the
three stamps in your collection, for what that's worth.

Ryan

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Nick Bridgwater wrote:
I'm having difficulty deciphering my Michel catalogue to understand what
the differences are between the four authentication marks they list.

The catalogue only illustrates 3 of them (type I, Ia, II) while it has a
table that also refers to a type III. It also says that there are more
specialised varieties.

Here's a scan of the images the catalogue shows:
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s...Citymichel.jpg

This one's quite easy as type Ia according to the image above:
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s...urkeyCityc.jpg

I think this is type I with a continuous circle:
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s...urkeyCityb.jpg

and this is type II with dots around the circle:
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s...urkeyCitya.jpg

Can someone please confirm this is correct, or set me right !

I've got no idea what type III looks like ? Anyone help please !


Regards,
Nick

I'd also posted on Stampboards (but hadn't got a reply) - now have, see:
http://www.stampboards.com/viewtopic...84799&e=784799

Regards,
Nick


Ryan Davenport wrote in
:

I have a 2006/07 Michel SE Europe, and it doesn't have much more
information beyond what you have already mentioned. It says the 4
different types of overprint are "significantly" / "substantially"
different. It's known from the table that Type III exists only in
blue and only on Michel 11, 12 & 13 - the only other overprint type
used on those three issues is Type II (in all 4 different overprint
colours), so at least that narrows down your possibilities for Type
III. Must be blue, must not be Type II, must be on Michel 11, 12 or
13.
I agree with your determination of which types you have on the
three stamps in your collection, for what that's worth.

Ryan

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Nick Bridgwater wrote:
I'm having difficulty deciphering my Michel catalogue to understand
what the differences are between the four authentication marks they
list.

The catalogue only illustrates 3 of them (type I, Ia, II) while it
has a table that also refers to a type III. It also says that there
are more specialised varieties.

Here's a scan of the images the catalogue shows:
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s...Citymichel.jpg

This one's quite easy as type Ia according to the image above:
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s...urkeyCityc.jpg

I think this is type I with a continuous circle:
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s...urkeyCityb.jpg

and this is type II with dots around the circle:
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s...urkeyCitya.jpg

Can someone please confirm this is correct, or set me right !

I've got no idea what type III looks like ? Anyone help please !


Regards,
Nick

On Jun 30, 4:37*am, Nick Bridgwater No@Spam wrote:
I'd also posted on Stampboards (but hadn't got a reply) - now have, see:http://www.stampboards.com/viewtopic...84799&e=784799

Regards,
Nick

Ryan Davenport wrote :

* * *I have a 2006/07 Michel SE Europe, and it doesn't have much more
information beyond what you have already mentioned. *It says the 4
different types of overprint are "significantly" / "substantially"
different. *It's known from the table that Type III exists only in
blue and only on Michel 11, 12 & 13 - the only other overprint type
used on those three issues is Type II (in all 4 different overprint
colours), so at least that narrows down your possibilities for Type
III. *Must be blue, must not be Type II, must be on Michel 11, 12 or
13.
* * *I agree with your determination of which types you have on the
three stamps in your collection, for what that's worth.

* * *Ryan

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Nick Bridgwater wrote:
I'm having difficulty deciphering my Michel catalogue to understand
what the differences are between the four authentication marks they
list.

The catalogue only illustrates 3 of them (type I, Ia, II) while it
has a table that also refers to a type III. It also says that there
are more specialised varieties.

Here's a scan of the images the catalogue shows:
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s...Citymichel.jpg

This one's quite easy as type Ia according to the image above:
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s...urkeyCityc.jpg

I think this is type I with a continuous circle:
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s...urkeyCityb.jpg

and this is type II with dots around the circle:
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s...urkeyCitya.jpg

Can someone please confirm this is correct, or set me right !

I've got no idea what type III looks like ? Anyone help please !

Regards,
Nick

Of course, by posting a stamp boards link, you oblige any here to
register there and then login before seeing the answer. wouldn't
it be simpler to copy and paste the reply here, as well?

Blair

Of course, by posting a stamp boards link, you oblige any here to
register there and then login before seeing the answer. *wouldn't
it be simpler to copy and paste the reply here, as well?

Blair

As far as I know, and I'm open to correction, there isn't any need to
register and login with Stampboards in order to read posts there.

Tony

If you're having difficulty with the Stampboards link, try here for the
scans that Jay posted up the

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s...antinople1.jpg
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s...antinople2.jpg

It appears that Michel confused their illustration from about 2001 to at
least 2006.

Regards,
Nick

"Blair (TC)" wrote in
:

On Jun 30, 4:37*am, Nick Bridgwater No@Spam wrote:
I'd also posted on Stampboards (but hadn't got a reply) - now have,
see:
http://www.stampboards.com/viewtopic...84799&e=784799

Of course, by posting a stamp boards link, you oblige any here to
register there and then login before seeing the answer. wouldn't
it be simpler to copy and paste the reply here, as well?

Blair

On Jul 1, 9:37*am, Nick Bridgwater No@Spam wrote:
If you're having difficulty with the Stampboards link, try here for the
scans that Jay posted up the

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s...antinople1.jpg
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s...antinople2.jpg

It appears that Michel confused their illustration from about 2001 to at
least 2006.

Michel 1998/99 matches the original as shown in
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s...antinople1.jpg .

Michel 2001/2002 has three photos and captions describing the four
types. The photos do not match the captions. Photo above Type I
description is really photo of Type Ia. Photo above Type Ia
description is really photo of Type III. Photo above Type II
description is really photo of Type I. No photo of Type II, which is
the circle made of dots.

Type II
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s...urkeyCitya.jpg

Type Ia
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s...urkeyCityb.jpg

Type III
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s...urkeyCityc.jpg

On Jul 2, 3:58*am, "Victor Manta" wrote:

When I opened Nick's link, I could read in the center of the page:http://www.stampboards.com/viewtopic...84799&e=784799

"Login. You have been notified about this topic, please login to view it."

The language barrier, perhaps? For me eventually but why for Blair too? :-)

Being a Stampboards member, I don't receive the message when I click
on the link.

Perhaps going to stampboards.com and using the Search function to find
the relevant page might help. I do know that there are many lurkers
on Stampboards, who have never registered, yet seem to be able to
access it without difficulty.

Tony

On Jul 3, 4:41*am, Asia-translation
wrote:
On Jul 2, 3:58*am, "Victor Manta" wrote:

When I opened Nick's link, I could read in the center of the page:http://www.stampboards.com/viewtopic...84799&e=784799

"Login. You have been notified about this topic, please login to view it."

The language barrier, perhaps? For me eventually but why for Blair too? :-)

Being a Stampboards member, I don't receive the message when I click
on the link.

Perhaps going to stampboards.com and using the Search function to find
the relevant page might help. *I do know that there are many lurkers
on Stampboards, who have never registered, yet seem to be able to
access it without difficulty.

Tony

I am quite capable of joining Stampboards and other sites.
However, in the last few years I was on too m,any sites and reduced
the number.

The point I was trying to make was one of common courtesy.
If you you ask a question in several fora and get a reply in two or
more,
then I was taught that it was courteous to post the final reply take
the
final (or best) response to the question and repost it to groups where
I
had had at least one reply.

Am I just too old fashioned?

Blair

post

On Jul 7, 12:25*am, "Blair (TC)" wrote:

Am I just too old fashioned?

Blair

Not in my opinion!

Tony