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Old March 20th 08, 08:14 PM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
Rein
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Default Denmark 1961 King Definitive Question

It should have been "phosphorescent" instead of "fluorescent'.
Fluorescence only appeared in 1987 for Switzerland and in 1994 for
Belgium.... and by then the luminescence was incorporated in the coating.

groetujes, Rein


Op Thu, 20 Mar 2008 06:42:30 +0100 schreef Rein :

In 1963 the Swiss [and a bit later the Belgian] stamps printed in
recess had uncoated paper with an impregnation of fluorescent fluid
applied from the front of the paper. There is no way of telling it apart
from paper without the fluorescence other than using the UV-lamp.




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Old March 20th 08, 08:15 PM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
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Default Denmark 1961 King Definitive Question

Tracy,

there are no secrets! Just a matter of finding time to translate from
Dutch to English

see:

http://www.xs4all.nl/~dziewon/fila/blg_pp06.htm
http://www.xs4all.nl/~dziewon/fila/blg_pp07.htm

etc

upto

http://www.xs4all.nl/~dziewon/fila/blg_pp22.htm

from

http://www.xs4all.nl/~dziewon/fila/blg_pp90.htm

to

http://www.xs4all.nl/~dziewon/fila/blg_pp94.htm

groetjes, Rein

Op Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:26:20 +0100 schreef :





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Old March 20th 08, 11:30 PM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
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On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 21:15:03 +0100, Rein wrote:

there are no secrets! Just a matter of finding time to translate from
Dutch to English


Very good. I may take a closer peek at this. My Flemish / Dutch is
poor, but have been picking up bits and pieces from Belgian RR sites.
--- :^)


see:

http://www.xs4all.nl/~dziewon/fila/blg_pp06.htm
http://www.xs4all.nl/~dziewon/fila/blg_pp07.htm

etc

upto

http://www.xs4all.nl/~dziewon/fila/blg_pp22.htm

from

http://www.xs4all.nl/~dziewon/fila/blg_pp90.htm

to

http://www.xs4all.nl/~dziewon/fila/blg_pp94.htm

groetjes, Rein

Op Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:26:20 +0100 schreef :

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Old March 21st 08, 08:18 AM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
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Default Denmark 1961 King Definitive Question

The GB Machins are printed on a bewildering array of
flourescent,phosphorescent and even phosphorescent bands on
flourescent paper. However these are very well described and are
collected varieties - probably as a result of the huge population of
machin specialists.

It seems to me from a distance that most other countries' collectors
do not very much consider these matters, which is a pity - as this is
an area of quite serious philatelic research which can be undertaken
on quite a small budget - all you need is vast quantities of stamps..

It is probably however a good idea to carry out your uv research
before you soak any stamps to get the original flourescent effect.

This is an interesting subject which I may return to from time to time
with your permission - probably under a new generic heading of
"Flourescence".

Malcolm






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Old March 21st 08, 07:29 PM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
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Default Denmark 1961 King Definitive Question

You are correct. "Tagging" is more of an American and Canadian term
for the types of luminescence used on stamps since it is process of
application often distinct from the prinitng process. Fluorescence is
not nearly as prominent in determining the differences in American
stamps since the time of the mid-1960's. Fluorescence and
phosphorescence is overwhelmingly more prominent in stamp production
outside of North America.

In fact, I did not even know of many American fluorescent stamp
varieties beyond some of the more obvious stamp issues. The 20-cent
panes of 50 of the State Birds and Flowers issued in 1982 are an
excellent example.

I have now found that fluorescent paper was used in the USA early on
in the 1960's during the experimental period of transition toward more
and more automated postal operations with the creation of ZIP Codes,
luminescent tagging, design configurations (the 1962 Christmas stamp
with the bold red and green bars in the design) and the potential for
fluorescence and optical brighteners in paper to speed the processing
of mail.

There is always something new to learn everyday in this field of stamp
study.

Mark Alan
Coral Springs, FL
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Old March 21st 08, 09:43 PM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
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On Mar 21, 3:29 pm, wrote:
You are correct. "Tagging" is more of an American and Canadian term
for the types of luminescence used on stamps since it is process of
application often distinct from the prinitng process. Fluorescence is
not nearly as prominent in determining the differences in American
stamps since the time of the mid-1960's. Fluorescence and
phosphorescence is overwhelmingly more prominent in stamp production
outside of North America.

In fact, I did not even know of many American fluorescent stamp
varieties beyond some of the more obvious stamp issues. The 20-cent
panes of 50 of the State Birds and Flowers issued in 1982 are an
excellent example.

I have now found that fluorescent paper was used in the USA early on
in the 1960's during the experimental period of transition toward more
and more automated postal operations with the creation of ZIP Codes,
luminescent tagging, design configurations (the 1962 Christmas stamp
with the bold red and green bars in the design) and the potential for
fluorescence and optical brighteners in paper to speed the processing
of mail.

There is always something new to learn everyday in this field of stamp
study.

Mark Alan
Coral Springs, FL


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Old March 22nd 08, 02:51 AM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
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Default (RCSD) Denmark 1961 King Definitive Question

On Fri, 21 Mar 2008 14:43:10 -0700 (PDT), "Blair (TC)"
wrote:

Um, Blair... what happened here?

On Mar 21, 3:29 pm, wrote:
You are correct. "Tagging" is more of an American and Canadian term
for the types of luminescence used on stamps since it is process of
application often distinct from the prinitng process. Fluorescence is
not nearly as prominent in determining the differences in American
stamps since the time of the mid-1960's. Fluorescence and
phosphorescence is overwhelmingly more prominent in stamp production
outside of North America.

In fact, I did not even know of many American fluorescent stamp
varieties beyond some of the more obvious stamp issues. The 20-cent
panes of 50 of the State Birds and Flowers issued in 1982 are an
excellent example.

I have now found that fluorescent paper was used in the USA early on
in the 1960's during the experimental period of transition toward more
and more automated postal operations with the creation of ZIP Codes,
luminescent tagging, design configurations (the 1962 Christmas stamp
with the bold red and green bars in the design) and the potential for
fluorescence and optical brighteners in paper to speed the processing
of mail.

There is always something new to learn everyday in this field of stamp
study.

Mark Alan
Coral Springs, FL

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Old March 22nd 08, 03:22 AM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
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Default (RCSD) Denmark 1961 King Definitive Question




Um, Blair... what happened here?



May I suggest Blair is adjusting the header by including (RCSD)



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Old March 22nd 08, 05:01 AM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
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Default (RCSD) Denmark 1961 King Definitive Question

On Mar 21, 11:22 pm, "rodney" wrote:




Um, Blair... what happened here?


May I suggest Blair is adjusting the header by including (RCSD)


Thanks Rodney. I'm glad somebody noticed.
Did you also notice that our friend from Edmonton is back ,
under a new name.

B
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Old March 22nd 08, 06:00 AM posted to rec.collecting.stamps.discuss
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"Blair (TC)"
Did you also notice that our friend from Edmonton is back ,
under a new name.
B


for a fleeting second maybe
it flies into the waste bin fairly smartly.
"click!"




 




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