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Lewis and Clark and good grief, that shipping box..
I received a Lewis and Clark Coin And Currency Set from The Mint yesterday.
I don't know what kind of adhesive they're using for their brown outer shipping cartons but good grief, you practically need a winch and high explosives to open the thing.. there's no tear strip on it, so I carefully used a cutter with about 1/8" of exposed very sharp blade to slice along the long edge, not wanting to slice into it too deeply and touch the set with the blade. They also used red and white striped Security Tape around the circumferance of the box, something I have never seen The Mint or their fulfillment company do before. Anyway, the Set itself is a little smaller than the box it comes in. I pondered slitting its shrink wrap but since I have another one coming from another source in a little while, I decided I'd open this one, and keep the other one sealed and sell it when it shows up. Maybe sell this one later, depending on what the prices do. They seem to be going on eBay from anywhere from about $130.00 to $180.00 so far.. I opened the Set and examined all the stuff inside. Two long glossy pamphlets with a lot of history that I haven't even read yet. The usual tri-fold slick glossy Set format that the other Coin and Currency Sets have come in. So let's see, the Unc. Silver Dollar is an MS70. The two Nickels are Matte Proofs. The Brass Buck is a mule. The reproduction $10.00 Bison Note is printed off center. All three stamps are mis-perfs and the Silver plated medal is reverse rotated 120 degrees. And if you believe that, I have this bridge in Brooklyn you might be interested in.. Anyway, it's a nicely produced Set. The Silver Dollar could be a 70 on a good day, but I haven't louped it. The Nickels look better than typical Mint Set quality. The Brass Buck is the first 2004 I've seen. At least it wasn't covered with ugly brown spots like so many of them are that come from The Mint. Is it "Burnished" like the Millennium Coin And Currency Set's coin was??.. Who knows.. I'll wait for the magazine writers to declare anything special about it and the Nickels. The Medal is mounted on the front of the Set. All together, a nicely done presentation. Is it worth $90.00??.. I think if the Buffalo Coin and Currency Set hadn't sold out in four days a few years ago, this would have been a $55.00 purchase too. What's encouraging to me is that The Mint cut back all orders over ten of these to ten of these.. after the fact. If that means that the big dealers who would have ordered hundreds, and probably did, only get ten of them, then no one gets more than ten of them, no matter how many they ordered.. and that could do to the aftermarket prices of these what it did to 1999-S Silver Proof Sets.. or not.. Say you're Joe Big Time Dealer and you placed an order for 200 Sets, as soon as they went on sale. Since there was no ordering limit, you figure you're going to get them. Then the Sets sell out in six days and you find out that your order for 200 has been cut back to ten. They're sold out so you can't order anymore. Just musing on the possibilities.. Harv |
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I haven't got mine yet. Somehow, according to the postal service website,
it's stuck in the Bell, CA holding facility for a while. I got the standard shipping option. People should be more clear when they say, "Standard shipping". I always thought standard shipping meant First Class. Now I know it means Parcel Post. For $4.95 shipping, they should send it first class. -- Mike "Harv" wrote in message ... I received a Lewis and Clark Coin And Currency Set from The Mint yesterday. I don't know what kind of adhesive they're using for their brown outer shipping cartons but good grief, you practically need a winch and high explosives to open the thing.. there's no tear strip on it, so I carefully used a cutter with about 1/8" of exposed very sharp blade to slice along the long edge, not wanting to slice into it too deeply and touch the set with the blade. They also used red and white striped Security Tape around the circumferance of the box, something I have never seen The Mint or their fulfillment company do before. Anyway, the Set itself is a little smaller than the box it comes in. I pondered slitting its shrink wrap but since I have another one coming from another source in a little while, I decided I'd open this one, and keep the other one sealed and sell it when it shows up. Maybe sell this one later, depending on what the prices do. They seem to be going on eBay from anywhere from about $130.00 to $180.00 so far.. I opened the Set and examined all the stuff inside. Two long glossy pamphlets with a lot of history that I haven't even read yet. The usual tri-fold slick glossy Set format that the other Coin and Currency Sets have come in. So let's see, the Unc. Silver Dollar is an MS70. The two Nickels are Matte Proofs. The Brass Buck is a mule. The reproduction $10.00 Bison Note is printed off center. All three stamps are mis-perfs and the Silver plated medal is reverse rotated 120 degrees. And if you believe that, I have this bridge in Brooklyn you might be interested in.. Anyway, it's a nicely produced Set. The Silver Dollar could be a 70 on a good day, but I haven't louped it. The Nickels look better than typical Mint Set quality. The Brass Buck is the first 2004 I've seen. At least it wasn't covered with ugly brown spots like so many of them are that come from The Mint. Is it "Burnished" like the Millennium Coin And Currency Set's coin was??.. Who knows.. I'll wait for the magazine writers to declare anything special about it and the Nickels. The Medal is mounted on the front of the Set. All together, a nicely done presentation. Is it worth $90.00??.. I think if the Buffalo Coin and Currency Set hadn't sold out in four days a few years ago, this would have been a $55.00 purchase too. What's encouraging to me is that The Mint cut back all orders over ten of these to ten of these.. after the fact. If that means that the big dealers who would have ordered hundreds, and probably did, only get ten of them, then no one gets more than ten of them, no matter how many they ordered.. and that could do to the aftermarket prices of these what it did to 1999-S Silver Proof Sets.. or not.. Say you're Joe Big Time Dealer and you placed an order for 200 Sets, as soon as they went on sale. Since there was no ordering limit, you figure you're going to get them. Then the Sets sell out in six days and you find out that your order for 200 has been cut back to ten. They're sold out so you can't order anymore. Just musing on the possibilities.. Harv |
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"Michael Ng" wrote in message news:uJSvc.16042$lL1.15177@fed1read03... I haven't got mine yet. Somehow, according to the postal service website, it's stuck in the Bell, CA holding facility for a while. I got the standard shipping option. People should be more clear when they say, "Standard shipping". I always thought standard shipping meant First Class. Now I know it means Parcel Post. For $4.95 shipping, they should send it first class. -- Mike For $4.95 they could send one set Priority Mail. Or First Class. My single Set also said "Standard Shipping." Who knows what that means. They used to call Book Rate Library Rate. Or was it the other way around. Then they changed it to Media Mail. Obviously, this isn't Media Mail, although it contains coins AND booklets, so maybe it is. I ordered a DVD from Amazon last month. Paid for "Standard Shipping" and it came from Nevada and I got it in two days in So. Calif. I thought that was pretty remarkable. I've had Media Mail take two WEEKS to get to me from various places. Is Parcel Post now called "Standard Shipping"??.. The box has three labels on it. One is a USPS Delivery Confirmation barcode label but there's a small sticker with another bar code and my Zip Code covering up part of the Delivery Confirmation number. The other label to the right of that is an "RR DONNELLY STANDARD" computer generated label with yet another bar code and a different number below that than the Delivery Confirmation Number. Two smaller bar codes at the top which I have no idea what they are for. Yes, the box actually has four separate barcodes on it. It was shipped from "Fulfillment Center" in Memphis, TN, which I believe is Fedex's facility where The Mint has warehouse space and stores their stock. If you order over $100.00 worth of stuff, it goes out Fedex. If you order less than $100.00 worth of stuff it goes out by this "Standard Shipping" whatever that is. One of these Sets including shipping is $94.95 so it just misses the $100.00 mark. Someone should write a book about the inner workings of the USPS. If anyone actually understands how it works. I got my May 31nd issue of Coin World on Saturday. Sitting underneath it in my mailbox was my May 24rd issue. Go explain that. Well hang in there.. yours will show up some day.. but get the TNT and the blasting caps ready to get that box open.. Harv |
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"Henry Mensch" wrote in message ... Marsellus Wallace wrote: -If you order over $100.00 worth of -stuff, it goes out Fedex. If you order less than $100.00 worth of stuff it -goes out by this "Standard Shipping" whatever that is i don't think this is still true ... my three sets (well over $100) arrived by usps. Well then they changed the rules yet again.. Thanks for the correction.. Did yours say "Standard Shipping" on them and come in one big box or three of those impossible to open boxes strapped together??.. Harv |
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Marsellus Wallace wrote:
-If you order over $100.00 worth of -stuff, it goes out Fedex. If you order less than $100.00 worth of stuff it -goes out by this "Standard Shipping" whatever that is i don't think this is still true ... my three sets (well over $100) arrived by usps. -- # henry mensch / henare systems / san francisco, ca # http://www.henare.tk/ |
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Marsellus Wallace wrote:
The other label to the right of that is an "RR DONNELLY STANDARD" computer generated label with yet another bar code and a different number below that than the Delivery Confirmation Number. Two smaller bar codes at the top which I have no idea what they are for. Yes, the box actually has four separate barcodes on it. It was shipped from "Fulfillment Center" in Memphis, TN, which I believe is Fedex's facility where The Mint has warehouse space and stores their stock. If you order over $100.00 worth of stuff, it goes out Fedex. If you order less than $100.00 worth of stuff it goes out by this "Standard Shipping" whatever that is. Big warehouse in Memphis? I tracked my L&C Dollar and it seemed to start life at the RR Donnelly facility outside Chicago. That's a mighty big jump from Memphis to Chicago in zero time. If I were to track the L&C C&C I just received would the tracking show me the same thing? The return address on the boxes was indeed Tennesee, but I don't believe it. -- Kaleb S. KEITHLEY |
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A wise man (dealer) would have placed orders thru his employees so that he
could get more than 10 sets g. "Harv" wrote in message ... I received a Lewis and Clark Coin And Currency Set from The Mint yesterday. I don't know what kind of adhesive they're using for their brown outer shipping cartons but good grief, you practically need a winch and high explosives to open the thing.. there's no tear strip on it, so I carefully used a cutter with about 1/8" of exposed very sharp blade to slice along the long edge, not wanting to slice into it too deeply and touch the set with the blade. They also used red and white striped Security Tape around the circumferance of the box, something I have never seen The Mint or their fulfillment company do before. Anyway, the Set itself is a little smaller than the box it comes in. I pondered slitting its shrink wrap but since I have another one coming from another source in a little while, I decided I'd open this one, and keep the other one sealed and sell it when it shows up. Maybe sell this one later, depending on what the prices do. They seem to be going on eBay from anywhere from about $130.00 to $180.00 so far.. I opened the Set and examined all the stuff inside. Two long glossy pamphlets with a lot of history that I haven't even read yet. The usual tri-fold slick glossy Set format that the other Coin and Currency Sets have come in. So let's see, the Unc. Silver Dollar is an MS70. The two Nickels are Matte Proofs. The Brass Buck is a mule. The reproduction $10.00 Bison Note is printed off center. All three stamps are mis-perfs and the Silver plated medal is reverse rotated 120 degrees. And if you believe that, I have this bridge in Brooklyn you might be interested in.. Anyway, it's a nicely produced Set. The Silver Dollar could be a 70 on a good day, but I haven't louped it. The Nickels look better than typical Mint Set quality. The Brass Buck is the first 2004 I've seen. At least it wasn't covered with ugly brown spots like so many of them are that come from The Mint. Is it "Burnished" like the Millennium Coin And Currency Set's coin was??.. Who knows.. I'll wait for the magazine writers to declare anything special about it and the Nickels. The Medal is mounted on the front of the Set. All together, a nicely done presentation. Is it worth $90.00??.. I think if the Buffalo Coin and Currency Set hadn't sold out in four days a few years ago, this would have been a $55.00 purchase too. What's encouraging to me is that The Mint cut back all orders over ten of these to ten of these.. after the fact. If that means that the big dealers who would have ordered hundreds, and probably did, only get ten of them, then no one gets more than ten of them, no matter how many they ordered.. and that could do to the aftermarket prices of these what it did to 1999-S Silver Proof Sets.. or not.. Say you're Joe Big Time Dealer and you placed an order for 200 Sets, as soon as they went on sale. Since there was no ordering limit, you figure you're going to get them. Then the Sets sell out in six days and you find out that your order for 200 has been cut back to ten. They're sold out so you can't order anymore. Just musing on the possibilities.. Harv |
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I had to use an old and very very sharp knife that was designed to cut the
clanger off of bulls to open this set. It was the worst box I have ever had to open. I have gotten packages from ebay sellers that were difficult, but this took the prize. Dave -- Tir nam Beann, nan Gleann, s'nan Gaisgeach - Saor Alba A-Nis! "Harv" wrote in message ... I received a Lewis and Clark Coin And Currency Set from The Mint yesterday. I don't know what kind of adhesive they're using for their brown outer shipping cartons but good grief, you practically need a winch and high explosives to open the thing.. there's no tear strip on it, so I carefully used a cutter with about 1/8" of exposed very sharp blade to slice along the long edge, not wanting to slice into it too deeply and touch the set with the blade. They also used red and white striped Security Tape around the circumferance of the box, something I have never seen The Mint or their fulfillment company do before. Harv --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.686 / Virus Database: 447 - Release Date: 5/14/04 |
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Mine were sent parcel post but they arrived the day after they were shipped.
But, of course, this is Virginia only a hop step and a jump from Tennessee where they were shipped from. Everything looked pretty good except for the 2004-D Sac which looked like it was run over by a truck and then coated in oil. I'd send it back for a replacement, but ... -- Richard A thought: Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body. But rather it's to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a ride!!!" "Michael Ng" wrote in message news:uJSvc.16042$lL1.15177@fed1read03... I haven't got mine yet. Somehow, according to the postal service website, it's stuck in the Bell, CA holding facility for a while. I got the standard shipping option. People should be more clear when they say, "Standard shipping". I always thought standard shipping meant First Class. Now I know it means Parcel Post. For $4.95 shipping, they should send it first class. -- Mike "Harv" wrote in message ... I received a Lewis and Clark Coin And Currency Set from The Mint yesterday. I don't know what kind of adhesive they're using for their brown outer shipping cartons but good grief, you practically need a winch and high explosives to open the thing.. there's no tear strip on it, so I carefully used a cutter with about 1/8" of exposed very sharp blade to slice along the long edge, not wanting to slice into it too deeply and touch the set with the blade. They also used red and white striped Security Tape around the circumferance of the box, something I have never seen The Mint or their fulfillment company do before. Anyway, the Set itself is a little smaller than the box it comes in. I pondered slitting its shrink wrap but since I have another one coming from another source in a little while, I decided I'd open this one, and keep the other one sealed and sell it when it shows up. Maybe sell this one later, depending on what the prices do. They seem to be going on eBay from anywhere from about $130.00 to $180.00 so far.. I opened the Set and examined all the stuff inside. Two long glossy pamphlets with a lot of history that I haven't even read yet. The usual tri-fold slick glossy Set format that the other Coin and Currency Sets have come in. So let's see, the Unc. Silver Dollar is an MS70. The two Nickels are Matte Proofs. The Brass Buck is a mule. The reproduction $10.00 Bison Note is printed off center. All three stamps are mis-perfs and the Silver plated medal is reverse rotated 120 degrees. And if you believe that, I have this bridge in Brooklyn you might be interested in.. Anyway, it's a nicely produced Set. The Silver Dollar could be a 70 on a good day, but I haven't louped it. The Nickels look better than typical Mint Set quality. The Brass Buck is the first 2004 I've seen. At least it wasn't covered with ugly brown spots like so many of them are that come from The Mint. Is it "Burnished" like the Millennium Coin And Currency Set's coin was??.. Who knows.. I'll wait for the magazine writers to declare anything special about it and the Nickels. The Medal is mounted on the front of the Set. All together, a nicely done presentation. Is it worth $90.00??.. I think if the Buffalo Coin and Currency Set hadn't sold out in four days a few years ago, this would have been a $55.00 purchase too. What's encouraging to me is that The Mint cut back all orders over ten of these to ten of these.. after the fact. If that means that the big dealers who would have ordered hundreds, and probably did, only get ten of them, then no one gets more than ten of them, no matter how many they ordered.. and that could do to the aftermarket prices of these what it did to 1999-S Silver Proof Sets.. or not.. Say you're Joe Big Time Dealer and you placed an order for 200 Sets, as soon as they went on sale. Since there was no ordering limit, you figure you're going to get them. Then the Sets sell out in six days and you find out that your order for 200 has been cut back to ten. They're sold out so you can't order anymore. Just musing on the possibilities.. Harv |
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"Ed Kelley" wrote in message ... A wise man (dealer) would have placed orders thru his employees so that he could get more than 10 sets g. I'm sure some dealers did, but since there was no announced limit of ten Sets per order ahead of time, it still makes me wonder how many dealers who would ordinarily order hundreds will actually get. I guess we'll know when the ads start hitting the magazines. I've only found one ad so far that didn't say "Call for Price" that had it at $199.00.. Does anyone out there have an issue of Coin World with a cover date newer than 31th May, 2003, with dealer display ads listing prices for this Set yet??.. If so, which dealers, and what are their prices like??.. Harv |
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